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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Rime posted:

Bobbing there in the Coquihalla River, where its protective road has been ripped off, is 200m of the Trans Mountain Pipeline. The 60+ year old, 300,000bpd oil & fuel link between the pacific coast and Alberta. This pipe carries 90% of the refined fuels supplied to British Columbia. It provides 10-15% of the unrefined supply for the refineries in Washington State. This is not the only location where it has been compromised. The road to either side of this location has been totally destroyed in both directions in multiple places.

I really did not have Vancouver, British Columbia down as the first place in North America to collapse due to a climate-change induced disaster, but here we are. It's happening.

We are about to watch some serious poo poo go down over the next few weeks.

well when there's oil money involved i'm sure they'll have segments replaced lickity split. but not anything else.

but yeah my money wouldn't have been on vancouver getting hosed, that's for sure. certainly expected like miami or heat death wave with massive power grid meltdown in phoenix first on my bingo cards.

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Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋

lol I read this post before looking at the username and at the end thought to myself "poo poo I hope this is from some unreliable shitposter so I can dismiss it"

lmao nope

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

Pooky posted:

lol I read this post before looking at the username and at the end thought to myself "poo poo I hope this is from some unreliable shitposter so I can dismiss it"

lmao nope

i've actually been told rime is an insufferable bastard posting smug poo poo that everyone ignores

i'm pretty sure the person who said that was wrong, tho

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Paradoxish posted:

I mean, the assumption that these magical technologies actually exist and we just need more Tony Starks is actually pretty wrong.

yeah I meant the part specifically about consumers doing it without lowering their QOL. cause people are selfish and won’t willingly give it up for something as intangible as future climate disaster

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
i'm banking on a ragtag gang of cybernerd hackers that are willing to fight the man and hack the planet

:cool: who's with me? everyone gets to wear sunglasses and in one scene we'll be roller blading

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

actionjackson posted:

what's the 10-20 year outlook for Seattle

we are like 10 years overdue for a clockwork regular every 300 year 8.0 earthquake.. seriously, last one was in the 1700s. it will be bad

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Alobar posted:

i'm banking on a ragtag gang of cybernerd hackers that are willing to fight the man and hack the planet

:cool: who's with me? everyone gets to wear sunglasses and in one scene we'll be roller blading

Let the hacker battle commence.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


Alobar posted:

i'm banking on a ragtag gang of cybernerd hackers that are willing to fight the man and hack the planet

:cool: who's with me? everyone gets to wear sunglasses and in one scene we'll be roller blading

do we get to save the world by having a poorly thought out mid-90s CG cyberspace duel with the villain because if so im in

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Wolfy posted:

I wouldn’t worry too much but like, thinking about having some food and water around and how you would respond in such a disaster if your house isn’t on top of you is probably a good exercise.

yeah it is mandatory to have a 5 gallon bucket stuffed with emergency food and water if you live on the west coast. more if you have a family or pets to feed

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3CKgkyc7Qo

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

mod sassinator posted:

we are like 10 years overdue for a clockwork regular every 300 year 8.0 earthquake.. seriously, last one was in the 1700s. it will be bad

assuming you mean a subduction zone quake, the yearly variance is actually less over time. 200-300 years (averaged) in the last 10k years, 600-800 in the last 6000, and even less frequently over the past 3.



but anyway a rainier lahar event is far more scary to me than a megathrust event. we’re lucky on the interior of the puget sound, being relatively shielded from the tsunami event and the relative distance from the epicenter would dampen the actual earthquake itself. it would still be really bad though. whereas a partial collapse of rainier and the subsequent lahar would wipe Tacoma off the map and a lot of south Seattle around the duwamish rivershed

much worse for Hawaii and Japan especially

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/WeDontHaveTime/status/1460884665376686088?s=20

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
Living in the PNW, I really need an emergency kit in my house and car. Not really sure what to put in it, flashlights, blankets, water.

The fires this year and last year, flooding this week, potential snow soon, it seems to be extremely unpredictable lately.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

err posted:

Living in the PNW, I really need an emergency kit in my house and car. Not really sure what to put in it, flashlights, blankets, water.

The fires this year and last year, flooding this week, potential snow soon, it seems to be extremely unpredictable lately.

snow is very irregular but floods are predictable since it’s pretty much every year.

for what’s in your bag, way more water than you think necessary. flashlights, lots of batteries, food like canned soups if you have space, at least 2 first aid kits, one trauma kit, ??? that’s what we have I’m sure there’s other good stuff.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
I greatly enjoyed reading the following Maclean’s article on Canadian real estate after events in BC these last days

https://www.macleans.ca/longforms/canadian-real-estate-market-housing-2021/

quote:

The snap-up sales and bidding wars have elbowed into the lumber mill town of Merritt, a 270-km wind up the Coquihalla Highway from Vancouver. About 90 per cent of purchasers in recent months are from the Lower Mainland, says agent Janis Post, and the half-million dollars that luxury homes in Merritt used to fetch is now the typical price. When locals inquire about selling, she warns them to make plans. “Because if we put your house on the market, it’s going to get multiple offers fast, and you need a place to go.”

:tif:

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

DesertIslandHermit posted:

lmao if North America collapses first before any other continent does

this would happen even without climate change, thankfully

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





look, regardless of whether or not Vancouver collapses, could someone at least save Nardwuar? He doesn't deserve to die because of this poo poo.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

mod sassinator posted:

we are like 10 years overdue for a clockwork regular every 300 year 8.0 earthquake.. seriously, last one was in the 1700s. it will be bad

How earthquake-safe is the space needle is the real question

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

yr new gurlfrand! posted:

I greatly enjoyed reading the following Maclean’s article on Canadian real estate after events in BC these last days

https://www.macleans.ca/longforms/canadian-real-estate-market-housing-2021/

:tif:

lolllll

"real estate NEVER drops in value"

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Rime posted:

A century ago, Sumas in the Fraser Valley was a vast inland lake.

https://www.abbotsford.ca/alerts/evacuation-order-and-alerts-issued-localized-areas

https://twitter.com/ty_olsen/status/1460818805525860352?s=20

It is currently becoming a lake again, because the Noosack river in Washington has been diverted north (diverted south by the last eruption of Mt Baker) and the Barrowtown Pumping Station (the second busiest pumping station in North America) is failing after its pipes have burst. Several hundred thousand acres are about to be submerged beneath raging floodwaters, with no way to drain them.

This isn't the exciting thing, though. Nor is that every road and rail link out of the lower mainland is, as of tonight, destroyed with no date of re-opening. They might have the longest and most treacherous route, the 99, open by next week.

No. This is the real poo poo: This has not been publicly announced, the government is keeping it quiet to avoid a panic. I, being a big-brained individual with connections in places, am in on some poo poo:

https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1460731733427449858

Bobbing there in the Coquihalla River, where its protective road has been ripped off, is 200m of the Trans Mountain Pipeline. The 60+ year old, 300,000bpd oil & fuel link between the pacific coast and Alberta. This pipe carries 90% of the refined fuels supplied to British Columbia. It provides 10-15% of the unrefined supply for the refineries in Washington State. This is not the only location where it has been compromised. The road to either side of this location has been totally destroyed in both directions in multiple places.

I really did not have Vancouver, British Columbia down as the first place in North America to collapse due to a climate-change induced disaster, but here we are. It's happening.

We are about to watch some serious poo poo go down over the next few weeks.

hope everyone got their livestock out of the area, this can only improve local property values

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋

Fame Douglas posted:

How earthquake-safe is the space needle is the real question

safer than all our homes that aren't required to have automatic earthquake shutoff valves on the natural gas line :)

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
:munch:

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
:magical:

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-floods-tuesday-update-1.6250367

summary
- one confirmed dead so far in the slides
- chilliwack and abbotsford had to evacuate, y'all saw the pics
- princeton bc has a lot of evacuees but they're still without nat gas or power so they're going to have to move them to kelowna
- lots of people spent multiple nights in their vehicles
- The Department of National Defence told CBC News that a total of 311 people, 26 dogs and one cat were airlifted from the highway.
- another weather system expected thurs but should be weaker. (editor's note: ok but if the ground is still waterlogged what happens???)
- Snowfall warnings remained in place overnight for the Coquihalla Highway, with Environment Canada saying up to 20 centimetres of snow could fall between Hope and Merritt.
- Wind speeds are still expected to be high throughout B.C. Gusts of up to 90 km/h were forecast in parts of the Fraser Valley on Monday.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
unless i missed it, not a single mention in the article about the pipeline or the highways in/out of vancouver

it really does feel like they're trying to not panic people in vancouver

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.


:suspense:

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
maybe my little bro is more crack pinged than i realize b/c this was on his fb

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Alright, the biosphere has been a failure

What about a biocube?

Or the biopyramid? The pyramid is the strongest of shapes.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal
biodome

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



biobreak

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Tabletops posted:

essentially west of 100, east of the Rockies, and the entire southwest as the Colorado rivershed eventually dries up


by "southwest" do you mean "the southwest portion of the Midwest?"

I'm in the twin cities, we have really good freshwater access which is nice, but I could definitely see parts of Iowa and Nebraska being hit pretty hard

but obviously most people in the Midwest lives either here, or other major urban areas like Chicago

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

Paradoxish posted:

Like the funny thing about the technophile approach to climate change is that it's actually based on completely faulty assumptions with no basis in historical fact.

There's this weird and completely incorrect idea that we have, as a species, consistently developed technological solutions to problems. We haven't. We've developed various technologies that may or may not have filled some specific need and then built our civilization around them. There generally aren't a lot of examples of humanity facing some pressing and immediate problem and coming up with a solution on the spot, especially when we don't already have an existing framework to use.

Also, what we think of as "inventing stuff" is mostly just finding ways to harness surplus energy. Hooking up a heat source to a thing that goes around and around as the heat dissipates, and then variations on that theme seeping into every crack and crevice over time. Industrial society is not too different from the ecology of a hydrothermal vent.



Preserving all that complexity while cutting off energy inputs is a completely different kind of problem, but we keep throwing our existing framework at it ("heat source -> thing go around", i.e. direct-air carbon capture), and it's just not going to work.

goochtit
Nov 2, 2021



https://twitter.com/KateAronoff/status/1460976028487200775



quote:

The enormous size of the lease sale – covering an area that is twice as large as Florida – is a blunt repudiation of Biden’s previous promise to shut down new drilling on public lands and waters. It has stunned environmentalists who argue the auction punctures the US’s shaky credibility on the climate crisis and will make it harder to avert catastrophic impacts from soaring global heating.

:laugh:

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
I didn't become President to protect a bunch of trash birds, Jack. That poo poo's already polluted to hell anyway. gently caress it

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016

*woody harrelson in true detective voice*

bios fear

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Drill, baby drill! But it's important you vote democrat or it'll be the vile republicans opening up huge offshore areas to drilling

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
https://youtu.be/d2NMYyQBCr8

"The Suburbanists posted:

In a world coded so binary
We’re hunched over our lit up screens
loving vacant
Barely physical at all

In the digital realm we validate
We cauterize our insecurities
An addiction
Fit for the finest drug

As data grows and nature dies
We’ll lose our sense of reality
Swallowed whole by
The computing machines

So we’ll pull our plugs out from the wall
I’m calling for an EMP
Heard you wanted
A loving anarchy

As artificial intelligence outsmarts us
We’ll all be fine with
Surviving alone and fornicating robots
It won't be quite like
Terminator or The Matrix
Nothing quite as cool just
Replacing all our windows with a screen
It's not ok with me

Call in the EMP
Set a blue flame to all wires and networks
Kill all the connections
Banish the bandwidth smash all that transmits
Pull the plugs from the wall
Don’t smash the system just disconnect it
Call in the EMP
Don’t smash the system just disconnect it

Don’t smash the system just disconnect it
Call in the EMP we can end it

Don’t smash the system just disconnect it
Call in the EMP we can end it

The abacus went to far and now we’re all hosed
Codependent
And useless without porn and CGI
It won't be quite like
Terminator or The Matrix
Nothing quite as cool just
Replacing all our windows with a screen

Our grandchildren will see the world around us
Like a prison cell where
The internet is authenticity
It won’t be quite like
RPGs or listening to Daft Punk
Nothing futuristic just
People programmed into slavery

It’s not ok with me
Call in the EMP
It’s not ok with me
Call in the EMP

Don’t smash the system just disconnect it
Call in the EMP we can end it

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Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1461000405085822978
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