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Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


I am not familiar with this boss' legend/myth but I am pretty sure I just got beat down by an Irish anime.

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Artelier posted:

I am not familiar with this boss' legend/myth but I am pretty sure I just got beat down by an Irish anime.

A strange feeling, Irish heroes in Japanese media tend to be total jobbers

Pyro Jack
Oct 2, 2016
So I've went and did some grinding alongside changing the player's affinities to one that doesn't have a Mudo weakness because I didn't want to lose my progress because I got instakilled by a Mudo spell again. Outside of that, I felt confident enough and went to take on the first Fiend in the game, Matador which I succeeded in beating him and unlocked him for Special Fusion which I immediately did since I'm around the level to fuse him. This makes him my first Special Fusion demon since I never bothered to fuse High Pixie.

Anyway, the fight with him was challenging, even with a Jaki race Demon using it's Magutsuhi skill. I frequently got into low health, one of my demons ended up dying (and it was the healing one) and I ended up wasting a Phys Dampener because I thought he was going to use his physical unique skill after using the Critical Magutsuhi skill since the previous bosses always used their unique skills after that, I was wrong and ended up eating a Mazan. His next turn, he ended up using his physical skill and it killed off the demon that I previous mentioned.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Artelier posted:

I am not familiar with this boss' legend/myth but I am pretty sure I just got beat down by an Irish anime.

Just got schooled by that fight last night. Now I'm just tooling around the map to shake up my team and get some more glory, before attempting again.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
Realtalk: Who's your favorite navigator buddy.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



FrickenMoron posted:

Realtalk: Who's your favorite navigator buddy.

Not whatever her name is who is the main one so far. It is very easy to go wrong with "bubbly and cute" and just end up with "totally annoying." She's the latter.

She's easily the worst part of this game so far in terms of characters.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

NikkolasKing posted:

Not whatever her name is who is the main one so far. It is very easy to go wrong with "bubbly and cute" and just end up with "totally annoying." She's the latter.

She's easily the worst part of this game so far in terms of characters.

Sounds like A dub problem. She's fine in jp.

PsychoInternetHawk
Apr 4, 2011

Perhaps, if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque.
Grimey Drawer
Swapping demons taking a 1/2 turn (instead of a whole one) is a new thing right? I was wondering why MP pools seem so low in this one and realized the game is now balanced vetter around using your full demon pool, instead of just building three powerhouses and letting the rest wait around as fusion fodder

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
https://twitter.com/megaten_atlus/status/1460896934042865665

Spermando
Jun 13, 2009
Endgame question. I already beat the game. I killed Lucifer and got an ending where the ex-Bethel leaders were floating in space. I've now gone back to do Belial's quest (the one where you meet him in Arioch's palace and he tells you to go kill Michael). Is this going to change the ending?

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Gonna hope this doesn't count as spoilers because this is an advertised DLC boss, but: there's finally a video of someone beating Demi-Fiend on Hard and it's about as long a fight as you'd expect. It looks like they had to fuse a bunch of hyper-specialist demons who do like one thing and then have a shitload of passives to make that thing stronger and let the demons not get one-shot by everything.

Edit: one of the demons used might be a relatively minor spoiler if you're super early on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBIKkfVaA9I

Harrow fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Nov 17, 2021

Shingouryu
Feb 15, 2012
Just beat the final boss of the second area and had my first "SMT gonna SMT" moment - halfway through phase two my whole party got Marin Karined except for Parvati, who promptly died after being smacked by the MCs laser fingers when I asked him to use a dispel charm. Pretty sure the game felt bad for me though as the second time around he fired multiple bufulas into King Frost instead of my bufu weak PC and the second phase didn't even use his unique skill.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009



No regrets going all in on a single thing. I have become too powerful.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I waited too long to fight Matador and stomped him. It felt wrong.

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Do normal Pleroma and High Pleroma stack?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

blizzardvizard posted:

Do normal Pleroma and High Pleroma stack?

I am pretty sure they do.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
I think the biggest hit i managed on remotely even leveled enemies was a 3500 crit from Irishman. I need to get him high phys pleroma and the skill that increases crit damage but lowers non crits.

RubberLuffy
Mar 31, 2011
https://youtu.be/sBIKkfVaA9I

Someone managed to beat Hard mode Demi-Fiend

spoilers obv for endgame demons

Iserlohn
Nov 3, 2011

Watch out!

Here comes the third tactic.
Lipstick Apathy

Detective No. 27 posted:

I waited too long to fight Matador and stomped him. It felt wrong.

That's a shame, cause I think he's my favorite boss fight so far. There was a surprising amount of care to give you the tools to beat him before completing the first part. I did the fight at level 20 and it was like a puzzle with a deadline to kill him before he charges Andalucia.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I am not sure if I will ever move on from the first unique skill the mc gets as 8 attacks with chance of crit is very hard to turn away from.

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!

Hunt11 posted:

I am not sure if I will ever move on from the first unique skill the mc gets as 8 attacks with chance of crit is very hard to turn away from.

Theres an improved version later that almost doubles its damage on crit hits.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

blizzardvizard posted:

Do normal Pleroma and High Pleroma stack?

Maybe there are some exceptions I'm not aware of but my understanding is everything stacks generally- pleromas, crit passives, accuracy passives, HP/MP up passives, etc.

GiantRockFromSpace
Mar 1, 2019

Just Cram It


Harrow posted:

Gonna hope this doesn't count as spoilers because this is an advertised DLC boss, but: there's finally a video of someone beating Demi-Fiend on Hard and it's about as long a fight as you'd expect. It looks like they had to fuse a bunch of hyper-specialist demons who do like one thing and then have a shitload of passives to make that thing stronger and let the demons not get one-shot by everything.

Edit: one of the demons used might be a relatively minor spoiler if you're super early on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBIKkfVaA9I

Not looking at the video to prevent spoilers but I'm guessing the DLC quest is gonna stay unfinished until I do a Normal NG+ if it's really that bullshit.

GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 17, 2021

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

GiantRockFromSpace posted:

Not looking at the video to prevent but I'm guessing the DLC quest is gonna stay unfinished until I do a Normal NG+ if it's really that bullshit.

Demi-fiend is a legendarily hard superboss in Digital Devil Saga and by all appearances he's pretty much the same deal here.

The same guy who made this video also did a clear on Normal first (he saved, lowered the difficulty, beat Demi-fiend, then reloaded his Hard mode save) and it took about half the time it looks like.

Harrow fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Nov 17, 2021

RichterIX
Apr 11, 2003

Sorrowful be the heart
Please sign my change.org petition to make it mandatory that jrpgs let dead guys earn exp.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

RichterIX posted:

Please sign my change.org petition to make it mandatory that jrpgs let dead guys earn exp.

It was annoying but I don't think demon XP Is really a problem, I'm midgsme and am basically swamped in grimoires.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
I tried to reunite Forneus and Decarabia. The conversation between those two was pretty sad :(

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Sounds like A dub problem. She's fine in jp.

this. i will be hearing NEH NEH NEH fopr many months in my head.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

FrickenMoron posted:

Theres an improved version later that almost doubles its damage on crit hits.

That sounds amazing especially since most of my big fights consist of preping for the limit break and then nuking the enemy with everything I have.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Stux posted:

this. i will be hearing NEH NEH NEH fopr many months in my head.

Is she saying "gu gu" when you talk to her

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Stux posted:

this. i will be hearing NEH NEH NEH fopr many months in my head.

I switched to Pyro Jack because the *sad hee ho noise* when you dig up an enemy encounter makes me lol every time

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
That crisp, refreshing feeling of meeting the next boss and realizing that your entire team is weak to her attacks.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Meanwhile I got my rear end kicked by Mermaid, but defeated her on the third attempt.

Pyro Jack
Oct 2, 2016
I'm on the second area of Da'at and I'm starting to definitely notice that the Macca and Glory is adding up and I'm guessing it'll keep adding up until the end. Outside of that, I decided to give the ability of letting my demons use items and let me tell you, it definitely frees up my time and turns, especially if I'm doing Mitama grinding since those usually die via an elemental attack item.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Lost hours of progress when a demon tested my strength at the end of a fetch quest. I’m sorry I let you down Shiki-Ouji :negative:

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
Lvl 96 boss down!




I feel like i should change my phys pleromas to almighty ones, Murakumo is just so goddamn strong.

Also cheers for my lvl 87 Idun who accompanied me for 90% of the game.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

FrickenMoron posted:

Lvl 96 boss down!




I feel like i should change my phys pleromas to almighty ones, Murakumo is just so goddamn strong.

Also cheers for my lvl 87 Idun who accompanied me for 90% of the game.

drat, what's Idun's max MP there? I was thinking about the best base demons for a luster candy/debilitate/maybe heals spammer but I had no idea if low level demons would end up with a competitive MP pool

FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
558 but I fed quite a few mp boosts and have mana spring on her.

Edit: I didnt record anything but this was on normal, the boss had roughly 60.000HP~ I think.

FrickenMoron fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Nov 17, 2021

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Kild posted:

How good is the Skill Manifestation miracle? How often does it happen? Does it depend on the demon?

I got it and then got Mazionga on a demon at the next level up. So it owns.

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FrickenMoron
May 6, 2009

Good game!
RE: skill manifestation, I had high ice pleroma show up randomly at lvl 85 on someone who doesnt have ice skills sooo...

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