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Yeah, there seems to be a fair amount of shade thrown at Hu in particular.
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Nov 17, 2021 14:32
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stephenthinkpad posted:* long coverage of Xi's 2 terms including lot of detail of the anti corruption campaigns, which is IMO low profile blaming Jiang and Hu and build a case for Xi's third term. the anti corruption campaign is a hell of a lot more than just trying to blame predecessors. like sure, politics is politics and i couldn't say with a straight face that this was in no way part of it, but the campaign was vital for everything xi is trying to accomplish, especially the poverty alleviation, but also maintaining sovereignty while the american global hegemony exists. it is also the source of my favorite entertainment, longwinded articles from the foreign policy blob that are crymad the cia is dogshit at spying and is routinely owned by basic security features like one would expect to have around one's own capital and the complex where one's national government bodies' headquarters are
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Nov 17, 2021 15:01
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Imagining the hysteria that would result from a Global Times article about how China's efforts to spy on the US gov and bribe US officials were being thwarted but "these are the challenges the MSS is funded to overcome so the effort will continue." Lmao
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Nov 17, 2021 15:13
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There's got to be a kind of "force multiplier" to how easy it is to spy on a country when said country has a general notion about it that it doesn't have a future. It's probably way easier to bribe/blackmail some general into spilling their secrets if they're not even sure the country's going to exist in ten years
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Nov 17, 2021 15:36
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DiscountDildos posted:Imagining the hysteria that would result from a Global Times article about how China's efforts to spy on the US gov and bribe US officials were being thwarted but "these are the challenges the MSS is funded to overcome so the effort will continue." What do you mean that China isn't already breeding an army of CIA turncoats through subverted NSA backdoors
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Nov 17, 2021 15:38
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Banning tutoring seems like a pretty blatant crack down against the while tiger mom thing and the general bougie credentialism ideal, both something that's very good for a society and is the loving hell nightmare of the western liberals who can't imagine having no way to make their Kaylieins and Jaykleins stand out from the
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Nov 17, 2021 15:39
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Blarghalt posted:There's got to be a kind of "force multiplier" to how easy it is to spy on a country when said country has a general notion about it that it doesn't have a future. It's probably way easier to bribe/blackmail some general into spilling their secrets if they're not even sure the country's going to exist in ten years You can literally just write checks to elected politicians in America. That's not illegal or even particularly newsworthy. Just write "Lockheed Martin" or "Pfizer" at the top of the check if you want to make it less sus.
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Nov 17, 2021 15:44
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yeah not feelin the caremad over nuking the private tutoring industry. don't fall for dumbshit western hysteria. of course something like this is going to have some dramatic immediate effects, many of them negative, but like, that's what happens when you change things for the better.
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Nov 17, 2021 15:48
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DiscountDildos posted:Full english translation of the CPC's historical resolution from the plenum thing. Don't have time to read the whole thing now but seems interesting. quote:Marxism has brought to light the laws governing the development of human society. It is a scientific truth for understanding and shaping the world. But to uphold and develop Marxism, Marxists from all over the world must engage in extremely strenuous and challenging work, both in theory and in practice. Over the past century, the Party has rallied under the banner of Marxism, continued to adapt Marxism to the Chinese context and the needs of our times, embraced all the outstanding achievements of human society with a broad-minded perspective, and used the sound theories derived from adapting Marxism to the Chinese context to guide its great endeavors.
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Nov 17, 2021 15:52
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I get the feeling some of will be walked a bit or some loopholes will be allowed to be created etc. The current industry is over but it will evolve into something else. There is still going to be too much demand. Btw, I don’t think English is going anywhere even with China’s rise. It is too baked in as the language of commerce already, and even if the US fails, it will probably stick around in a comparable way to Vulgar Latin. (Also Chinese state exams have a foreign language component not necessarily a English requirement, it is just English is usually the first choice.) (Also, as far as Russia goes, public school teachers make so little that there is almost no way to survive without a second job. Also, part of that is that English instruction is usually so poor it is practically a waste of time.) Ardennes has issued a correction as of 15:58 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Nov 17, 2021 15:54
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 Ardennes posted:some loopholes will be allowed to be created etc. The current industry is over but it will evolve into something else. since when does modern china allow this horse poo poo
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Nov 17, 2021 15:56
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hot witch divorcee posted:since when does modern china allow this horse poo poo It happens, especially when a over arching policy is implemented that faces a push back and then is modified over time. There is still going to be a huge demand for English-speaking tutors, so it will work its way out one way or another.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:00
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It's not a big deal if you're rich or well connected, you can just get a private tutor like aways, this doesn't affect them at all.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:04
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Grapplejack posted:It's not a big deal if you're rich or well connected, you can just get a private tutor like aways, this doesn't affect them at all. Native speakers will take those jobs, but there is going to be a still huge demand in the “mid tier” sector. Public schools are not really aimed at filling that gap and there is going to be a surplus of a lot of non native speaking tutors.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:09
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of course there are going to be people squirreling around the rules but china isn't america, they don't just turn a blind eye to it and say "guess it can't be helped" probably a lot of english teachers will be hired on to public schools, some will take side gigs for rich assholes' children, if/when that becomes a problem, that will be clamped down on. work will continue on solving the primary contradictions that create this kind of hysteria and inequality in the first place.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:13
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Ardennes posted:I get the feeling some of will be walked a bit or some loopholes will be allowed to be created etc. The current industry is over but it will evolve into something else. There is still going to be too much demand. If people can't move away from qwerty keyboard, of course there is no way to move away from English. Not even for EU. But I think machine automatic translation will make things a lot easier. Kind of like how simplified vs traditional chinese rendering nowadays is a non-issue because its so easy to switch.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:20
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hot witch divorcee posted:of course there are going to be people squirreling around the rules but china isn't america, they don't just turn a blind eye to it and say "guess it can't be helped" It is more than the Central Government is willing to allow some leeway as long it doesn't cause a serious issue. They wanted the current industry gone, and that is accomplished, but I am not convinced they are totally against the idea of there ever be private tutoring again. It is just they want it their way. Also, the people celebrating the destruction of the sexpats probably should hold on a bit because they are the ones that will probably be the least affected since they are native speakers. If anything it is non-Anglo Saxon tutors who will be the ones really hurt. stephenthinkpad posted:If people can't move away from qwerty keyboard, of course there is no way to move away from English. Not even for EU. Yeah, but at a certain point you are going to need to know the underlying language even if machine translation makes some things easier (it can still go awry very quickly). It is also why I am skeptical that mid-tier tutoring in China will disappear completely, it is just the current companies surrounding it will be severely downsized. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 16:27 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Nov 17, 2021 16:21
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leather trenchcoat = nazi is a pretty big stretch
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Nov 17, 2021 16:24
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cross-posting:gradenko_2000 posted:This week is the 17th anniversary of the Hacienda Luisita massacre, a strike action by peasant workers seeking for better working conditions from an oligarchical family that bought out a Spanish-era sugar plantation and then dodged agrarian reform and land redistribution efforts.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:30
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Hoooo boy, an interesting clusterfuck is shaping up regarding Linglong's abuse of Vietnamese workers building their tire factory here, in particular witholding their passports from them to keep them there. The Vietnamese workers went on strike, and the media are starting to pick this up. The abuse is real, I was skeptical about it until people I trust about this personally investigated on the site. The Vietnamese workers eventually had to physically overpower the factory's Serbian security to protect them. Personal note: Of course, the usual suspects are blasting "EVIL CHINA" on full auto after being completely silent about identical abuse of Indian workers by an American company here a few years prior, and many other similar incidents involving Serbian workers abroad in the EU.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:31
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Knowing the Daily Mail's historical political allegiances its funny for them to come out in favor of Kim Jong Un
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Nov 17, 2021 16:34
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Agrajag posted:leather trenchcoat = nazi is a pretty big stretch matrix 4? nazis.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:39
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according to best available evidence, nazis breathed oxygen, so why are all of you itt nazis?
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Nov 17, 2021 16:47
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Agrajag posted:leather trenchcoat = nazi is a pretty big stretch stay classy, dailymail e: mixed up trash rag papers
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Nov 17, 2021 16:49
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gradenko_2000 posted:cross-posting: Gonna watch this tonight, thanks for posting.
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Nov 17, 2021 16:58
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THS2 posted:thing are much worse in the US, and we aren't doing well. I work at a landfill and it's constant panic attacks to get the trash going. maybe you should get some perspective. my terrible advise do not work in a landfill, its full of trash!
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Nov 17, 2021 17:10
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https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1461025491842916358
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Nov 17, 2021 18:56
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ah, sounds like everything is fine
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Nov 17, 2021 19:08
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hot witch divorcee posted:of course there are going to be people squirreling around the rules but china isn't america, they don't just turn a blind eye to it and say "guess it can't be helped" The primary contradiction here being massive inequality.
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Nov 17, 2021 19:12
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that absolutely doesn’t read like it was written by twelve party officials then run though google translate
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Nov 17, 2021 19:13
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Orange Devil posted:The primary contradiction here being massive inequality. exactly
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Nov 17, 2021 19:13
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Al-Saqr posted:that absolutely doesn’t read like it was written by twelve party officials then run though google translate My "Peng Shaui is fine" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.
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Nov 17, 2021 19:15
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Sorry my bad my Weibo got hacked
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Nov 17, 2021 19:15
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Not So Fast posted:My "Peng Shaui is fine" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt. i am simply resting at home and wish to promote Chinese tennis, why do you ask?
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Nov 17, 2021 19:18
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lol nice https://twitter.com/doom_nouveau/status/1461043700621008901
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Nov 17, 2021 20:06
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i can't believe xi banned this wonderful man from teaching
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Nov 17, 2021 20:09
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Xi doesn't want people learning English because then they could read the Bible and stop being Communists.
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Nov 17, 2021 23:55
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BrainDance posted:There are large kind of corporate farms like you have in America, too. That is not what most of the farmers in Henan are. what’s the status of corporate consolidation in rural China rn? I have relatives who farm in Anhui and apparently agricultural cooperatives have seen a lot of growth and it sounds like most land is still in the hands of small farmers rather than agribusiness. the cooperatives seem to be encouraging economic growth and get govt preferential treatment over private businesses but things are still lagging behind the cities. at least in anhui it sounds like there has been an expansion of rural welfare programs but it’s still not keeping pace with urban economic growth, which is probably a result of the rural productivity not seeing the exponential growth from technological and infrastructure improvements that urban areas get
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Nov 18, 2021 00:28
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lol
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Nov 18, 2021 00:28
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hot witch divorcee posted:of course there are going to be people squirreling around the rules but china isn't america, they don't just turn a blind eye to it and say "guess it can't be helped" Oh wow tell me more about how China doesn't turn a blind eye to people working around rules. Are you... familiar with how China works? In any sense? Additionally, regarding 'Western hysteria' about the education reform, there mostly wasn't any. A couple of days and a few articles on "guess those big companies are dead won't someone think of the shareholders", then nothing aside from an occasional human interest piece, because most people outside China don't give a poo poo about the Chinese education system. The stuff people are talking about ITT is often direct experience with large numbers of people whose lives just got flipped upside down. Now, I do suspect that things will be better in the end for having done it, but there was no reason - aside from callousness - for the government not to provide more guidance and support.
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Nov 18, 2021 01:27
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