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Alctel posted:This is 100% accurate Kinda my own sentiment as well. I am not going to consider it a governance failure to accurately predict that a mudslide is going to happen or a road is going to wash out. This is only notable since so many of them happened during the same storm. And considering the BC Libs aren't even rumbling about the same poo poo as this thread should probably give you an idea of how they would have handled it. The storm that did this was the second "OMFG we are all going to die"* rain storm to hit the PNW this month. Nobody is getting worked about about rain here, even if we should. * our media is so stupid and every storm is the coming apocalypse and frankly I don't pay any attention to it anymore.
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Nov 17, 2021 18:59
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Crow Buddy posted:Kinda my own sentiment as well. I am not going to consider it a governance failure to accurately predict that a mudslide is going to happen or a road is going to wash out. This is only notable since so many of them happened during the same storm. And considering the BC Libs aren't even rumbling about the same poo poo as this thread should probably give you an idea of how they would have handled it. I’ll agree with both of you. I am much calmer today cause I know my in-laws are okay up in Chilliwack. The response has been okay. If they didn’t want the alert then that’s their call. At least it’s some communication.
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Nov 17, 2021 20:29
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Fidelitious posted:I would venture that letting a fairly large city sink into a lake and the major metro centre being cut off by land without saying much of anything is significantly worse than fast ferries, which in the end was a pretty small cost. Lol Sumas Prairie is a patch of farmland with barely more than a thousand homes on it, not "a fairly large city". Abbotsford proper isn't underwater. Hell, the Abbotsford local government specifically asked the Province not to use the emergency text message system because it was only a couple hundred people actually still in Sumas Prairie, and they didn't want to freak out the whole city. Also the reporting is saying that both the feds and the province are bringing in pumps to try to help keep the waters out of the drained lake on which those people built their homes, so they're hardly "letting" it happen. And they've been putting out warnings and travel advisories since the weekend, have MOTI staff actively working on clearing the highways, have been out rescuing people, and are coordinating with local authorities like Abbotsford, as per their disaster management plans. So I'm not sure how they're not "saying much of anything". But sure, keep going off the Twitter outrage factory's version of reality. Alctel posted:edit: also this has already been mentioned upthread but the current BCNDP gov is actually 'ok' overall*, while failing in a number of spectacularly lovely ways they've put through a large number of actually good policies as well (although a lot of those are stapling the province back together after years of basically being run by an organised money laundering ring), you can't really compare them to AB, MN or ONs current governments Yeah, holy poo poo, all of this. ChickenDoodle posted:I’ll agree with both of you. I am much calmer today cause I know my in-laws are okay up in Chilliwack. Glad your family's OK. 
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Nov 17, 2021 21:04
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol Sumas Prairie is a patch of farmland with barely more than a thousand homes on it, not "a fairly large city". Abbotsford proper isn't underwater. Hell, the Abbotsford local government specifically asked the Province not to use the emergency text message system because it was only a couple hundred people actually still in Sumas Prairie, and they didn't want to freak out the whole city.  thanks for your insight
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Nov 17, 2021 22:03
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https://vancouver.citynews.ca/video/2019/07/18/citynews-regional-live-2/ update from Horgan and the NDP Horgan just mentioned that the province will need to prepare for more events like this in the future
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Nov 17, 2021 22:46
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How about the Federal government takes the cash for the emergency response for this directly out of fossil fuel subsidies. Just an idea.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:48
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Good thinking! The province of BC could do the same with the funds it raises from carbon taxes instead of just... giving it back to people.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:51
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Orthanc6 posted:How about the Federal government takes the cash for the emergency response for this directly out of fossil fuel subsidies. Just an idea. But then they'll take their vast underground reservoirs and go somewhere else.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:59
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JawKnee posted:https://vancouver.citynews.ca/video/2019/07/18/citynews-regional-live-2/ He looked like poo poo during the media conference. Then I remembered he had that biopsy and is probably suffering from the radiation treatment 
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Nov 17, 2021 23:15
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Alctel posted:This is 100% accurate Oh man it's going to be so bad. Obviously the bribery and so forth but yeah...planning the world cup in an absolute monarchy desert state, brilliant. A state that has no freedom of religion, sharia law, flogging as punishment, apostasy and homosexuality have the death penalty, and of course their general disregard for any human rights. Absolute travesty that they awarded it to them, should have been South Korea/Japan again.
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Nov 18, 2021 14:49
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Fidelitious posted:Oh man it's going to be so bad. Obviously the bribery and so forth but yeah...planning the world cup in an absolute monarchy desert state, brilliant. A state that has no freedom of religion, sharia law, flogging as punishment, apostasy and homosexuality have the death penalty, and of course their general disregard for any human rights. Absolute travesty that they awarded it to them, should have been South Korea/Japan again. You've just described the majority of countries in the region. And yes, Qatar and Al Jazeera bribed their way to winning the cup. The US DOJ has been chasing FIFA corruption for a decade. Guess which countries stonewalled those investigations. Thanks, America world police
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Nov 18, 2021 15:20
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Fidelitious posted:Oh man it's going to be so bad. Obviously the bribery and so forth but yeah...planning the world cup in an absolute monarchy desert state, brilliant. A state that has no freedom of religion, sharia law, flogging as punishment, apostasy and homosexuality have the death penalty, and of course their general disregard for any human rights. Absolute travesty that they awarded it to them, should have been South Korea/Japan again. I love football. Canada making the World Cup will be bittersweet for me. On the one hand it will be amazing having Canada take part in the world cup, and we have such great players ATM that they deserve to be there. On the other hand I kind of said I would not watch a world cup that already has a death toll before it began.
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Nov 18, 2021 17:11
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Madkal posted:On the other hand I kind of said I would not watch a world cup that already has a death toll before it began. If you've actually skipped the last three world cups, that's fairly impressive resolve for a soccer fan.
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Nov 18, 2021 18:04
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i fly airplanes posted:You've just described the majority of countries in the region. And yes, Qatar and Al Jazeera bribed their way to winning the cup. The US DOJ has been chasing FIFA corruption for a decade. Guess which countries stonewalled those investigations. My fav part is that FIFA then made a film which was basically entirely about how upstanding and uncorrupt the president of FIFA, Sepp Blatter was Wikipedia film plot summery posted:Corruption within FIFA builds up over the years from Havelange's expansion efforts. As president of FIFA, Blatter is tasked to clean this up, for which he is seen as a controversial president. Many FIFA officials attempt to vote him out of office because of how incorruptible he is. The movie ends with a 2006 vote, in which Blatter is able to retain his presidency by cowing the corrupt members of FIFA, threatening to expose their ill deeds if they do not endorse Blatter and his anti-corruption campaign by voting for him as the FIFA president. However, quote:The film's United States release coincided with the 2015 FIFA corruption case, in which several current and former members of FIFA's executive committee were arrested for charges of corruption.[7] The corruption investigation led to the resignation of FIFA's president, Sepp Blatter, following decades of speculation and accusations of corruption at FIFA under his leadership.[8] lol My 16 million dollar 'I'm not corrupt' film is raising a lot of questions already answered by my film
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Nov 18, 2021 18:28
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i fly airplanes posted:You've just described the majority of countries in the region. And yes, Qatar and Al Jazeera bribed their way to winning the cup. The US DOJ has been chasing FIFA corruption for a decade. Guess which countries stonewalled those investigations. If this weren't the Canada thread, I'd be really interested in learning more about the idea of Al Jazeera bribing FIFA.
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Nov 18, 2021 19:20
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The UCP AGM is this weekend. -Kenney changed the rules so only dear leader can bring resolutions the the floor -Kenney is organizing for a bunch of loyalists to flood the meetings to prevent dissenters from getting to the microphones. -Kenney used his massive personal staff to vote down possible resolutions to be presented there in October. -Kenney is likely going to raise the threshold for constituency associations to trigger a leadership review to 29 now that 22 have declared intention to. -Third party PACs are buying $349 a piece tickets for kenney loyalists, essentially transferring money directly to the party. quote:At the end of October, an Alberta company executive sent an email to colleagues that shows vividly how the system works. https://calgaryherald.com/news/braid-kenney-crew-busily-lining-up-delegate-support-for-weekend-convention Powershift fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Nov 19, 2021 03:11
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Muscle Tracer posted:If this weren't the Canada thread, I'd be really interested in learning more about the idea of Al Jazeera bribing FIFA. According to leaked documents obtained by The Sunday Times, Qatari state-run television channel Al Jazeera secretly offered $400 million to FIFA, for broadcasting rights, just 21 days before FIFA announced that Qatar will hold the 2022 World Cup. The contract also documented a secret TV deal between FIFA and Qatar's state run media broadcast Al Jazeera that $100 million will also be paid into a designated FIFA account only if Qatar wins the World Cup ballot in 2010. An additional $480 million was also offered by the State of Qatar government, three years after the initial offer, which brings the amount to $880 million offered by Qatar to host the 2022 world cup. The documents are now part of the bribery inquiry by Swiss Police.[84][85] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_controversies
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Nov 19, 2021 05:10
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Powershift posted:The UCP AGM is this weekend. Kenny's monkey football extravaganza
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Nov 19, 2021 20:28
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JawKnee posted:https://vancouver.citynews.ca/video/2019/07/18/citynews-regional-live-2/ Choosing to interpret this as "the old growth logging will continue"
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Nov 19, 2021 22:29
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Powershift posted:-Kenney is likely going to raise the threshold for constituency associations to trigger a leadership review to 29 now that 22 have declared intention to. lmao
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Nov 19, 2021 22:58
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Well it's not like Kenney just magically became the leader of the UCP. These assholes knew what they were getting
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Nov 19, 2021 23:07
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Wow, really sounds like the United Conservative Party is anything but.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:14
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infernal machines posted:Wow, really sounds like the United Conservative Party is anything but. gently caress, what about the People's Party?
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Nov 22, 2021 16:43
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eXXon posted:gently caress, what about the People's Party? If the united Conservative party eats united conservatives, What does the people party eat 
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Nov 22, 2021 16:58
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Powershift posted:If the united Conservative party eats united conservatives, What does the people party eat It's a cookbook!
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Nov 22, 2021 17:03
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Something tells me there are more than a few Soylent drinkers in the PP.
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Nov 22, 2021 17:40
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infernal machines posted:It's a cookbook! Lisa: how to cook people Bernier how to cook for people Lisa: how to cook forty people Bernier: how to cook forty poor people lisa: .....That's worse. You know that's worse, right?
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Nov 22, 2021 17:50
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Are the libs getting $10/day daycare done in Ontario or has Ford sabotaged it
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Nov 24, 2021 20:17
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mila kunis posted:Are the libs getting $10/day daycare done in Ontario or has Ford sabotaged it dougie is squabbling for more of the pie basically
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Nov 24, 2021 20:49
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Arivia posted:dougie is squabbling for more of the pie basically One of the two last provinces who haven't signed on yet, in fact. Ford also was pleading with municipalities to not "sabotage" the provincial negotiations by negotiating directly with the Feds, after Toronto, Hamilton, and Niagara all seemed to start discussing opening negotiations among their various councils.
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Nov 24, 2021 23:21
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The last I heard was Dougie wanted Ontario's kindergarten students to be included in the number of daycare spaces required (yes to inflate the numbers thus get more money) and the Feds laughed them out of the room.
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Nov 25, 2021 00:46
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less than three posted:The last I heard was Dougie wanted Ontario's kindergarten students to be included in the number of daycare spaces required (yes to inflate the numbers thus get more money) and the Feds laughed them out of the room. Is that because other provinces don't have full day kindergarten yet? Because if other provinces get to count kindergarten age kids who need half-day care, it makes some sense to apply that equally to all provinces.
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Nov 25, 2021 01:32
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BC NDP under delivering and bringing in 5 days of sick leave despite having known for weeks and weeks that the Federal government is bringing in 10 days of sick leave for federally regulated work places. https://twitter.com/jjhorgan/status/1463601154126848002?s=21 Once again the NDP are out flanked on the left by the Liberals. Real great labour government we have here in BC.
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Nov 25, 2021 03:06
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Femtosecond posted:BC NDP under delivering and bringing in 5 days of sick leave despite having known for weeks and weeks that the Federal government is bringing in 10 days of sick leave for federally regulated work places. Of course they could have different number of days or covered some costs for businesses with fewer than ten employees or whatever, instead we get this.
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Nov 25, 2021 03:14
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Jimbozig posted:Is that because other provinces don't have full day kindergarten yet? Doug Ford may suck, but he's not necessarily wrong here. Ontario has two years of kindergarten. As a result, the older cohort of kids in daycare in other provinces are not around any more in Ontario. They are already in school. Those kids are the cheapest daycare slots to fill because they require a much lower ration of caregivers to children. If a program aimed at creating slots provides funding based on the raw number of kids in daycare and doesn't count those in junior kindergarten, Ontario's program would be much more expensive to run per kid actually in daycare.
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Nov 25, 2021 03:50
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Trapick posted:Their claim was federally regulated businesses are typically larger, while this law applies to many more small businesses. At least call it an interim step to 10 days if they cant deliver. The NDP have replaced ideology with technocracy. So inspired by this "We polled 3 Tim Horton's Franchisees and 5 is the scientifically correct amount of sick days" poo poo.
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Nov 25, 2021 09:05
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Trapick posted:Their claim was federally regulated businesses are typically larger, while this law applies to many more small businesses. I don't understand this line of reasoning. Do people working at small businesses get sick less? I think not. It's this stupid thing where every smidgen of basic respect for employees has to be tested against how small businesses feel about it, and what exemptions small businesses should get. Every person should have the right to not have to weigh their health against how long can they last on unpaid sick leave, or risk getting fired. gently caress small businesses. If you can't afford to treat your employees like humans your business sucks and should die. Just want to be clear this isn't an attack against you Trapick, you're just being the messenger for what we all know small businesses would get all up in arms about if they had to give 10 days or something.
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Nov 25, 2021 15:19
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It's also more complicated than that; sure there are a lot of large employers in the federal jurisdiction but it also contains industries like interprovincial trucking, which is heavily vertically disintegrated and has tons of really small establishments with less than 10-20 people, all of whom would have to provide 10 paid sick days under the federal rules.
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Nov 25, 2021 15:52
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It's a dumbass compromise. All the business groups are already losing their poo poo over it anyway.
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Nov 25, 2021 16:28
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Remember when we killed the Albertan family farm by forcing them to abide by the same labour laws as everyone else? This is like that.
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Nov 25, 2021 16:42
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