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I need four of these, and I can get a kit from Corsa Technic for $4.49 or the housing from Toyota for $7.14 (not bad) and the two pins with leads for $15.77 each (insane): I obviously went with the Corsa kit, but I need to crimp the leads from some rock/puddle lights onto the terminals. I know absolutely nothing about crimpers, but I have this one and I don't think it's meant for this task. Is there a cheap crimper that is decent enough for this? It's not worth spending a lot of money as if a cheap one isn't good enough I can just cut the existing harness and connect the lights in an easier manner. It's not like the crimp failing will cause a problem for me other than not having light on the ground when I unlock the car / open the door.
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i think any crimper that handles stamped "W" style open barrel contacts should work. for example, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001GMYU9S https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07476C1LD https://www.racetronix.biz/p/t-11-wide-range-terminal-b-crimper/199-t-11 i cant recommend a specific unit being of good value compared to any other, though surprisingly, im not seeing a set of swappable dies for generic ratcheting crimpers any cheaper than the standalone crimpers e: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223910545863 Raluek fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Nov 17, 2021 09:35
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I've crimped manually with regular pliers before because, it's defina bit of a pain in the rear end but it works
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Nov 17, 2021 13:34
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You're supposed to use a specific crimper with a die for the seal, too. I've got one for Weatherpak and Metripak connector pins. Pliers aren't a good idea. Generic crimpers might do ok. I'd use generic crimpers for rock lights. Just don't crush the seals too badly,
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Nov 17, 2021 14:30
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There’s low end crumpets like those pliers, questionable ratcheting crumpets for a bit more, and then the market kind of jumps to $$$$$$ commercial stuff. For what you’re doing, plier style is fine.
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Nov 17, 2021 14:49
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Frank Dillinger posted:There’s low end crumpets like those pliers, questionable ratcheting crumpets for a bit more, and then the market kind of jumps to $$$$$$ commercial stuff. For what you’re doing, plier style is fine. I only use high end crumpets. When I said don't use pliers, I mean needle nose or vise grips. Plier style crimpers are different and crappy, but at least designed to do the job.
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I say guvnor, the high end crumpets better come with some good tea to make them worth the price.
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Nov 17, 2021 15:13
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Big Taint posted:I’m going to drill and tap a hole in a 19mm socket for a set screw to hold the key for those drat ‘tuner’ lug nuts. Or drill through the 19mm socket and the tuner socket and put a roll pin or cotter pin through both.
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You need a specific crimper to get the circular crimp on the seal. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Hilitchi-Professional-Metri-Pack-Connectors-Pin-Extractor/dp/B07Z1W5Q3P/. e: Ahahahaha, all the pics on that amazon listing are photoshopped, so don't actually show proper weather pack crimps. It's the right tool, though. ryanrs fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Nov 17, 2021 16:45
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I'm glad I posted, I didn't know the seal needed to be crimped too but it makes sense. I'll give that one a shot, thanks. I could go for some crumpets right now too actually.
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Yup, that's circular crimp. It wraps the metal tabs on the contact to gently grip the silicone rubber plug. Remember to slide on the rubber seal BEFORE crimping the wire.
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Nov 17, 2021 18:33
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ryanrs posted:You need a specific crimper to get the circular crimp on the seal. That looks nice! I've had good luck with this Hozan for cable seals on these and other connectors: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TKG11G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 But I'd definitely give that a try, I've got one in my cart right now.
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ryanrs posted:Yup, that's circular crimp. It wraps the metal tabs on the contact to gently grip the silicone rubber plug. Ohhhhh. Yeah I did a bunch of these wrong then. I thought those bigger wings were for added security of wire. I did jam all the seals in the end of the connectors and they felt plenty tight anyway.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:11
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Just a reminder that entire countries have had their auto industry's reputation ruined due to poor quality electrical connectors. The shame of bad electrics lasts for generations.
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ryanrs posted:Remember to slide on the rubber seal BEFORE crimping the wire. I'm having flashbacks to when I was first trying to add heat shrink tubing to some lovely car audio connections I made a long time ago
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ryanrs posted:Just a reminder that entire countries have had their auto industry's reputation ruined due to poor quality electrical connectors. The shame of bad electrics lasts for generations. laughs in ford, volkswagen, nissan, and rover
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You don't have to include Jeep in that list, as long as you don't consider wire an "electrical connector".
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Krakkles posted:You don't have to include Jeep in that list, as long as you don't consider wire an "electrical connector". lmao gently caress me how could I forget jeep.
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ryanrs posted:Just a reminder that entire countries have had their auto industry's reputation ruined due to poor quality electrical connectors. The shame of bad electrics lasts for generations. And the lack of knowledge lasts for generations, if anything I've heard about modern Italian cars is true
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Somehow the many sins of the Packard 56 were overshadowed by the many other domestic US car issues in its heyday.
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Commodore_64 posted:Somehow the many sins of the Packard 56 were overshadowed by the many other domestic US car issues in its heyday. There is literally nothing I like about those connectors. Yet every vehicle I love is loving COVERED IN THEM.
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The rubber ones that are a series of barrel connectors are the worst. Can't get them apart, can't seat them back together.
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Like trailer connectors? Those are known colloquially as SAE connectors but I'm not sure what the real name is. And yes they're terrible. SAE j928 and j1239 govern the overall dimensions of those but there's no 2 pin version in the standard I guess. kastein fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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Are you talking about the four way flat connectors? Like the type for trailers that have no brakes? kastein posted:Like trailer connectors? Those are known colloquially as SAE connectors but I'm not sure what the real name is. And yes they're terrible.
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Yup.
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https://m.delcity.net/store/Molded-Connectors-without-a-Loop/p_8593 Yes these fuckers. They're the main type of connector on the Galaxie. Power windows, courtesy lights, NSS, even the bulkhead connector is a big rear end version of it. Edit, if any of you invent a tool to connect and disconnect these I will pay dearly for it. I've fully strained my hands trying to push them back together. StormDrain fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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kastein posted:There is literally nothing I like about those connectors. Yet every vehicle I love is loving COVERED IN THEM. I never knew what they were called until now. The only positive is you can loving throw them in the trash and replace them with a 1/4" spade connector.
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Nov 18, 2021 04:40
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knipex pliers wrench + welding?
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Wera Stainless Lasertip 12 Piece set is 50% off at KC today https://www.kctool.com/wera-347903-stainless-steel-slotted-phillips-square-screwdriver-set/
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Do y'all not use dielectric grease before plugging those connectors together? Failing that, a dab and smear of Vaseline or mineral oil or something will make rubber slide against rubber easily. I had to hook up some big rubber trailer plugs the army uses, that are like coke can sized, and the only way I could fully seat them was by using some real dielectric grease I had ... found.
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I have a set of basic spring compressors like this: However, they don't fit the springs on my xc90. The spring wire diameter is too large for cutouts and the pins can't engage because they hit the coil. I've made them work but it seems sketchy. What's the next step up?
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You'd probably want the "worse" ones that have an adjustable clamp to secure the spring. I say worse because they're definitely more insecure at holding the spring.
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Cheap springs compressors are garbage. I ended up taking my new struts and springs to a shop just to put the springs on.
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I still want to build one of those wall mounted human counterweight strut compressors, but at this point I don't do struts often enough to justify it. https://youtu.be/RExQGwtNzlc https://youtu.be/-kICH1706io
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load bearing drywall making another appearance
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Those mounts look like they’re 16” apart, which would be a mighty big coincidence if they’re not bolted to studs.
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I know. It just seems funny to make a "safer" spring compressor and then have its critical mechanical backbone be whatever is in your garage wall. Hope the studs are wood, at least.
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kastein posted:I still want to build one of those wall mounted human counterweight strut compressors, but at this point I don't do struts often enough to justify it. Honestly, same. Now I just do quick struts.  ryanrs posted:I know. It just seems funny to make a "safer" spring compressor and then have its critical mechanical backbone be whatever is in your garage wall. Hope the studs are wood, at least. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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I should have bought the shop level spring compressor when it showed up on craigslist for a couple hundred dollars. The slack told me to and I didn't listen.
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I bought one of those off the previous owner of the Honcho for 100 bucks and immediately flipped it to SiF for the same amount after realizing I didn't do struts often enough to justify it and he has a bunch of rally cars and stuff to maintain those on. They're absolutely worth the money at that price range but drat they take up wall space.
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