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I apologize for being pointlessly snippy there. I didn't get a lot of sleep last night.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I apologize for being pointlessly snippy there. I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. Pas de worrieaux mon ami
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Carthag Tuek posted:Pas de worrieaux mon ami ça fait rein
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I'm now halfway through Knausgaard's latest and am enjoying it a lot. Although I have the distinct feeling it's going nowhere. That is the pleasure which will continue. My only complaint is there are a good handful of characters and all are given first person perspective chapters and they all sound quite similar to one another which has made it somewhat difficult to keep track of who's who. But as more unfolds and the characters become more intertwined I can't help but hope it does go somewhere. But Knausgaard's eye for the mundanity of human life is quite charming. I'm gonna have to give the Min Kamp series a go after this because the best parts of The Morning Star have been characters grappling with huge philosophical questions while waiting for someone to finish being sick in the pub bathroom or after an uneventful trip to the grocery store.
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there was a norwegian critic and prof. of literature that lauded his attempt at the project – writing something that is pure fiction – but noted that Knausgård seemed incapable of going past the style of autofiction found in My Struggle
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Thinking of reading Little Dorrit in honor of my new username. Yay or nay?
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I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking for some recommendations for shorter works (200 pages or less). I just don't have the time to read how I used to. My taste isn't relevant as getting out of my comfort zone could only be a good thing. Just throw anything at me as long as it's brief enough to red over a couple of days and in English. Muchly appreciated.
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An Episode in the Life of a Landscape Painter by César Aira, trans. Chris Andrews The Stones Cry Out by Hikaru Okuizumi, trans. Jacques/James Westerhoven Grief Is the Thing with Feather by Max Porter Strange Hotel by Eimear McBride Amongst Women by John McGahern At Night All Blood is Black by David Diop, trans. Anna Moschovakis Jokes for the Gunmen by Mazen Maarouf, trans. Jonathan Wright Dubliners by James Joyce Such Small Hands by Andrés Barba, trans. Lisa Dillman Distant Light by Antonio Moresco, trans. Richard Dixon A Whole Life by Robert Seethaler, trans. Charlotte Collins The first eleven in sight of which I know they are strictly under 200 pages. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Nov 17, 2021 |
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Nov 17, 2021 15:39
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Hunger by Hamsun Journey by moonlight by Antal Szerb The year of death of Ricardo Reis by Josè Saramago Mrs. Dalloway and To the lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
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apophenium posted:I'm now halfway through Knausgaard's latest and am enjoying it a lot. Although I have the distinct feeling it's going nowhere. That is the pleasure which will continue. There's a great line from one of his friends in I think Book Two of My Struggle where he says something like Knausgaard could write twenty pages about a bathroom seem riveting. But yes, "eye for mundanity" is a good description. I more or less liked all six, esp. 2 and 5.
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Docetic Mountain posted:I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking for some recommendations for shorter works (200 pages or less). I just don't have the time to read how I used to. My taste isn't relevant as getting out of my comfort zone could only be a good thing. Just throw anything at me as long as it's brief enough to red over a couple of days and in English. Muchly appreciated. Pedro Páramo by Juan Rolfo Parade by Hiromi Kawakami Breakfast at Tiffany's by Truman Capote Notes from Underground by Dostoevsky The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon The Floating Opera & The End of the Road by John Barth (two short novels regularly printed together) The Loser by Thomas Bernhard The Georgics of Virgil, translated by David Ferry Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot Steinbeck's got a handful of shorter novellas. George Saunders short story collections are must-reads.
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Docetic Mountain posted:I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking for some recommendations for shorter works (200 pages or less). I just don't have the time to read how I used to. My taste isn't relevant as getting out of my comfort zone could only be a good thing. Just throw anything at me as long as it's brief enough to red over a couple of days and in English. Muchly appreciated. "Baroque Concerto" by Alejo Carpentier
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All of Cesar Aira's stuff is short
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Docetic Mountain posted:I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking for some recommendations for shorter works (200 pages or less). I just don't have the time to read how I used to. My taste isn't relevant as getting out of my comfort zone could only be a good thing. Just throw anything at me as long as it's brief enough to red over a couple of days and in English. Muchly appreciated. Michel de Montaigne's collected essays are a surprisingly good - and often hilarious - read, even some 400 years of history and cultural change later, and are nicely bite-sized for your reading convenience.
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Bolaño’s The Return is good. Short stories in a short format.
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Nov 17, 2021 18:41
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Half of Herman Hesse fits the bill. Siddhartha, Demian, Beneath the Wheel, Journey to the East.
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Nov 17, 2021 18:50
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The sailor who fell from grace with the sea the blind owl on the natural history of destruction the peregrine (slightly over 200 but read it drat you)
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Docetic Mountain posted:I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm looking for some recommendations for shorter works (200 pages or less). I just don't have the time to read how I used to. My taste isn't relevant as getting out of my comfort zone could only be a good thing. Just throw anything at me as long as it's brief enough to red over a couple of days and in English. Muchly appreciated. Signs Preceding the End of the World by Yuri Herrera I think all Hererra's stuff is short. The Moon is Down by Steinbeck
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If you want to feel really smart just read large print books. Ipso facto Serious response: We Have Always Lived in the Castle can be finished in an afternoon and is quite good
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Italo Calvino has a few great short books too, including two of my favorite of his, The Cloven Viscount and The Nonexistant Knight, which I think are often sold as a pair. Plays are another good go to for something shorter. I've become a big fan of Sarah Ruhl and Annie Baker recently, and here's a bunch of other good ones: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead Waiting for Godot A Number by Caryl Churchill Fairview by Jackie Sibblies Drury Death of a Salesman The Humans by Stephen Karam
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Guy A. Person posted:Italo Calvino has a few great short books too, including two of my favorite of his, The Cloven Viscount and The Nonexistant Knight, which I think are often sold as a pair. Yeah, plays are fun. I read Albee's The Goat, or Who Is Silvia? months ago and I still think about it all the time. I've also been enjoying Tracy Letts's plays lately, and I hope to read Miller's The Crucible before the end of the year.
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Aura by Carlos Fuentes comes up often. very quick read. also sad. made me think of the passage of time and vanishing loved ones. 
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PeterWeller posted:Signs Preceding the End of the World by Yuri Herrera I love talking about that book. The descent into the underworld is one of the most memorable chapters ever. Make sure to read up on the ancient Mexica myths explored in the book. The entire book consists of adapted mythology.
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Pretty much anything by Yasunari Kawabata or Kobo Abe. Also, last call for Secret Santa sign-ups. I'll be matching people up at midnight CST.
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Man, I remember Gaddis's JR being recommended through here and it's just...okay? I'm about three quarters through and while interesting conceptually it's a really long performance of one note. People talking past each other, a cacophony of perspectives and people and pettiness and toxic men, I just wish it was edited down as you slog through yet another same-theme silliness. Like yeah it has some funny moments but it feels stales both by the passage of time and by length. But on the plus side, Soyinka's Nobel win means his first novel is no longer reference only at the library and I got a new addition just came in.
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Segue posted:But on the plus side, Soyinka's Nobel win means his first novel is no longer reference only at the library and I got a new addition just came in. Have you been waiting since before 1986
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Segue posted:Man, I remember Gaddis's JR being recommended through here and it's just...okay? I'm about three quarters through and while interesting conceptually it's a really long performance of one note. this post is loving bewildering
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As abandoned as Wall Street on a weekend https://twitter.com/of_forgetting/status/1461370289263153155?s=21
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Tree Goat posted:As abandoned as Wall Street on a weekend https://twitter.com/of_forgetting/status/1461370289263153155?s=21 little to nothing to choose from: 
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To be fair, almost all of those are from after the 500 year mark.
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Context from the article:quote:That there have been a lot of translations of the Comedy can be seen by glancing at the Wikipedia page “English translations of Dante’s Divine Comedy.” It took nearly five hundred years from Dante’s death for there to be a translation of all three parts of the poem. The first was by Henry Boyd, soon followed by the blank verse translation of Henry Francis Cary, which had such a great influence on William Blake, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, and other Romantic poets. Cary’s version was the first done in blank verse (unrhymed iambic pentameter), the method that America’s own Henry Wadsworth Longfellow also used. Many translators since Longfellow have done the same. It makes sense that blank verse has been the meter of choice for the Comedy in English. In capable hands it is a supple medium, which has the advantage of not forcing the translator to distort language and syntax for the sake of rhyme. Readers of Dante in English will have their own views as to whether there is a need to add to the many Dante translations available. I myself believe that we could get by for a while with what we already have – though a five-hundred-year hiatus might be overdoing it.
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I read a collection by Mary Jo Bang a while ago that I found pretty good as far as modern free verse goes, and I'm not very shocked by the artistic project behind her Divine Comedy, but publishing and promoting it as a straight translation is irresponsible and sensationalist at best
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It kicks rear end. I can't wait until this trend finally gives us a definitive English version of Eugene Onegin, with the piss tape and Amogus and everything else it needs to truly connect with the modern reader.
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Lmao at having to rely on English "translations" of Russian classics just lol but also laffo.
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We're going to lay Arndt and Nabokov to rest is all I'm saying. It will be a time of healing.
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