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Ola posted:Look how wrong you are Not seeing anything in there a F-18 couldn't do, anyways the most important difference is you can't launch an A-10 from an aircraft carrier
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rscott posted:Not seeing anything in there a F-18 couldn't do, anyways the most important difference is you can't launch an A-10 from an aircraft carrier I'm just saying that space battles have CAS. Besides, look at the low altitudes. F/A-18s do CAS from such height that it might as well be a space ship.
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This aircraft also saw action as a firebomber in Canada I think... the systems were removed long before it ever came to NL but the doors are still in the bottom of the fuselage. The hardpoints for the torpedos are also still there today, I don't think any original Dutch cat had these.
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rscott posted:Not seeing anything in there a F-18 couldn't do, anyways the most important difference is you can't launch an A-10 from an aircraft carrier Well not with that attitude you can’t.
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Nov 18, 2021 15:01
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Needed to be done into a Y-Wing instead, but cool
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Now I want an 80s Crimson Skies.
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Aerodynamically, could something with an x-wing configuration fly? I mean without a flight control computer doing its voodoo. Is there anything inherent to the shape that would prevent it from working?
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Aerodynamically, could something with an x-wing configuration fly? I mean without a flight control computer doing its voodoo. Is there anything inherent to the shape that would prevent it from working? IANAAE but I think that as pictured the inner part of the X would be a drag generator, for the same reason you have to filet fuselage-wing intersections. The wingtips are a biplane. "With enough thrust etc."
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Aerodynamically, could something with an x-wing configuration fly? I mean without a flight control computer doing its voodoo. Is there anything inherent to the shape that would prevent it from working? Part of the problem with biplanes is interference between the wings. Having non-parallel wings probably means airflow around the wing roots would be crap and you don't get much lift relative to drag from the part close to the fuselage. Here's an actual engineer weighing in: https://www.businessinsider.com/star-wars-x-wing-fighter-engineer-2016-1
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Pretty sure I saw an X-wing shaped RC that seemed to fly well. e: Not saying thats the best way to make a full size AC of course, put just for purposes of the question.
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You just don’t put the S-foils in attack position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI3U5ijHY6Q
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vessbot posted:Needed to be done into a Y-Wing instead, but cool Yes exactly
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rscott posted:Not seeing anything in there a F-18 couldn't do Besides look cool.
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vessbot posted:Needed to be done into a Y-Wing instead, but cool I'm guessing it's not an X-wing because the roles are similar, but because the design elements are, like the straight wings and exposed, tubular engines Like if I was gonna do an A-Wing I wouldn't use a Viper or an F-106, I'd use a wedge of Gouda
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X-wing real world equivalent absolutely needs to be based on something that also has folding wings.
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Scam Likely posted:X-wing real world equivalent absolutely needs to be based on something that also has folding wings. F4U Corsair.
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Just add a pair of wings to an F-104; it's already a starfighter
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Scam Likely posted:X-wing real world equivalent absolutely needs to be based on something that also has folding wings. You say folding, but we all know there's only one plane that can swing the kerosene-sooty, swashbuckling joie de guerre of the X-Wing. quote:When Jerry Bruckheimer was casually flipping through California magazine in 1983, he was suddenly struck by an image. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-gun-movie/
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rscott posted:you can't launch an A-10 from an aircraft carrier i'm positive you could with a ski jump carrier and minimal loadout
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Sagebrush posted:i'm positive you could with a ski jump carrier and minimal loadout The S-3 was heavier and used the same engines, it seems very possible. The landing gear is probably tough enough, idk what mods you'd need to do for a catapult. The biggest probably would probably be the amount of space it'd take up with wings that can't fold!
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Ola posted:You say folding, but we all know there's only one plane that can swing the kerosene-sooty, swashbuckling joie de guerre of the X-Wing. You would think an article about a how a cool picture and article inspired a movie would include that picture, but you would be wrong. I went looking so here's the original article http://www.topgunbio.com/top-guns-by-ehud-yonay/
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Xenoborg posted:You would think an article about a how a cool picture and article inspired a movie would include that picture, but you would be wrong. Thank you
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Xenoborg posted:You would think an article about a how a cool picture and article inspired a movie would include that picture, but you would be wrong. Probably couldn't get in contact with whoever had the copyright for the almost 40-year old image in question.
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Xenoborg posted:You would think an article about a how a cool picture and article inspired a movie would include that picture, but you would be wrong. Xakura posted:Thank you
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FOXBAT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1L1sU0uI0o
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That looks like a great channel, thanks for the link. The CGI for a youtube production is really good.
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the only problem with Mustard is that they don't post as often as i'd like them to!!! 
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That was a good video. While the plane itself may have sucked, it was at least a political success for some time while the west were making GBS threads themselves over it.
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slidebite posted:That looks like a great channel, thanks for the link. The CGI for a youtube production is really good. I know Mustard has been posted here before; I think now he's subcontracting his CGI out. It does look really good. I'm a question: do you remember the Hunter-chopper from Half Life 2, and followup, what would happen if you put a big horizontal rotor on a helicopter like that?  Pretend for a moment that the helicopter in question has a mission profile like the combine one: precise maneuvering in tight spaces. Bonus question: this chopper also has a tail rotor it can angle for tighter turns, I'm gonna say. Would that work, or would physics take offense to this?
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To what end? All the weight of the structure, mechanism, and power plant to turn it would eat into the useful load, while accomplishing the exact same thing (but less effectively) as tilting the disc one way or the other.
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... You'd want that front roter to not be blocked by the wings for a start, and for second I think this is the only time a Dahir Insaat quadcopter might be a more reasonable choice.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Pretend for a moment that the helicopter in question has a mission profile like the combine one: precise maneuvering in tight spaces. Bonus question: this chopper also has a tail rotor it can angle for tighter turns, I'm gonna say. Would that work, or would physics take offense to this? The tailrotor's primary function is to counter torque from the main rotor. By angling it, you just make it less efficient?. Much simpler to just change pitch/speed on the rotor. Horizontal rotor has no real meaning, other than possible make it accelerate sideways faster. Weather waning/tail rotor issues asides, a helicopter can fly equal speed in any direction.
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I feel like having a giant gyro mounted vertically right on your center of mass and down your centerline is going to do bad things to your ability to turn about that axis not help it. Unless you tilt over, in which case it’s gonna really want to keep going.
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Well, I'm convinced. Up next:  If you crossed a dolphin with a Mi-24 Now that we're discussing this, I think most of the rotors might be inspired by cooling fans on PCs In particular, I remember a fan that was driven by the edge instead of the center
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Holy poo poo. May require viewing on a larger screen to really break out the individual smoke trails until it all goes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJE4DI4kn8
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Ha… https://twitter.com/oriana0214/status/1462579823658819585?s=21
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I'm just the ideas guy.
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How far away is ethanol from working? It “counts” as sustainable for many purposes, just like “biomass” aka burning wood chips (hi Germany)
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Who cares if its not as good as they say? We get a new supersonic jet. That reggos like me can ride in.
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If that plane ever enters service the only reggos in it are the ones who fly business. Or probably a premium over todays business fares
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