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Mu Zeta posted:My guess is they won't put the Pro/Max into the Mini and save that for the iMac Pro or Mac Pro updates. The Mini will get whatever they put in the next Macbook Air. If that were true they would have killed the Intel Mac Mini but instead they kept it around. There's gonna be a higher specced M1 Pro in the Mini for sure.
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chaosbreather posted:I am thrashing the poo poo out of this 14" and it's instantly responsive and silent. It really is the best of both worlds. I'm sure it's great, it just seems silly to get a close to maxed out mac laptop when what I really need right now is a desktop. I connect a bunch of stuff when I'm in desktop mode (use literally every port on my rMBP: 2 monitors, audio interface, power, USB hub, another USB drive, sometimes SD card), so I'd either need to also drop even more money on a decent TB dock (which sounds like still isn't a great UX), or still deal with that. Also would be more comfortable saving money with a lower storage spec on a desktop as I could just add external SSDs as needed, and I think I'm at the point where an M1 Air or low spec pro might be plenty for my laptop needs (and would be nice to have a much cheaper laptop when I'm out DJing -- which is sometimes in the woods or on the beach -- rather than stressing about my main machine). So yeah, there are definitely still trade-offs, but ultimately I'll wait and if new Minis actually come any time soon, how much they cost, and if there's actually any difference in thermals/noise/throttling (sounds like throttling is not really a concern anymore at least). Splinter fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Nov 19, 2021 04:16
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FCKGW posted:If that were true they would have killed the Intel Mac Mini but instead they kept it around. i just don't want the black chassis to go away!
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Nov 19, 2021 04:32
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the mini didn’t get the max chip, but I agree that we’ll see a mini with the pro chip. The real question is what the mini redesign will look like.
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Nov 19, 2021 06:21
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Taima posted:Kinda surprised how bad the basic M1 pro does at gaming, but I was probably expecting toop much... it runs SC2 at native res at like 20fps or something (I don't know exactly, but it ran like rear end, even at the title screen). I guess you would have to significantly reduce the resolution to do any gaming? Don’t try to game a native res. The machines do much better at half resolution, (in the ballpark of 1080p) because it’s 1/4 the pixels.
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Nov 19, 2021 12:19
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I think it’s pretty fair to assume a pro/max version of the mini is going to happen. Personally I’m waiting to see if the max version of the iMac is still on a 27” screen or if they finally decide to make the jump to a bigger one. If they stay at 27” I’m much more likely to buy a mini with separate screen.
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Nov 19, 2021 12:42
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Welp Apple revalued my 2017 MacBook Pro trade-in from $800 to $0 because the "backlight is broken." So I assume UPS broke it in transit. Now they're charging $800 to my card as a standard charge, not spread out with the payment plan and I may be getting a broken laptop back. Not super happy right now.
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Nov 19, 2021 16:10
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Taima posted:Kinda surprised how bad the basic M1 pro does at gaming, but I was probably expecting too much... it runs SC2 at native res at like 20fps or something (I don't know exactly, but it ran like rear end, even at the title screen). I guess you would have to significantly reduce the resolution to do any gaming? drat my 2008 mac pro ran it better than that.. sad times have changed doingitwrong posted:Don’t try to game a native res. The machines do much better at half resolution, (in the ballpark of 1080p) because it’s 1/4 the pixels. oh thats why i guess
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Nov 19, 2021 16:45
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I’ve seen the rumors that the next Mini and MBA will feature a M2 which will be improved but not as good as the Pro and Max. Apple really gonna thread the needle on these releases.
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Nov 19, 2021 17:24
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RocketLunatic posted:I’ve seen the rumors that the next Mini and MBA will feature a M2 which will be improved but not as good as the Pro and Max. Any word on what will be improved?
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Zil posted:Any word on what will be improved? The Mini and the Air, they will be Better
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I think the base M# will be 4 performance cores for a while, it will probably get 1 or 2 more gpu cores. The M1 can physically take 32GB of ram right now so they might add that for M2.
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I really don’t think we’ll see an M2 until all the Intel macs are gone which means updating the higher end Mac Mini, the rest of the iMac lineup and of course the Mac Pro. Once all that is done then we start seeing M2 products rolling out. What I’m saying is don’t hold your breath on an M2 MBA until later next year.
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It'll be interesting to see how well the M2 pans out, since most of the engineers who worked to develop A1x chips supposedly left to go work for Nuvia, who got bought up by Qualcomm, who is now saying they're going to come out with their own next-level ARM CPU variants in 2023. They're promising competitive power/performance ratios on par with the M1s out of the box, though no one has yet to see any engineering samples yet; or if they have, they're not saying anything.. I'd also imagine that the entry level M2s that will go into the Airs and entry Minis are not going to be anywhere near competitive with M1 Max or Pros by design; the current Airs have 4 efficiency cores and 4 performance cores; what they might do is just increase the number of performance cores to efficiency cores from 4 to 4 to maybe 6 performance and 2 efficiency, so it doesn't go near the M1 Pro's 8 performance / 2 efficiency.
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RocketLunatic posted:I’ve seen the rumors that the next Mini and MBA will feature a M2 which will be improved but not as good as the Pro and Max. Threading the needle isn't the right way to think about what they're doing. M1 Pro and Max are so much more powerful than the base M1 because they doubled the number of high performance CPU cores and doubled-to-quadrupled the number of GPU cores and memory interface channels. These things don't come for free, they make Pro/Max substantially more expensive to build and power hungry than the base M1. It's literally not physically possible for them to build a single chip which can slot into any Mac without unacceptable compromises somewhere. M2 should also end up being a family of designs - expect an eventual M2 Pro/Max (*). * - It's possible they may sometimes skip years on the 'pro' chips. That's a pattern they had for a few years with iPad Pro, anyways. Time will tell whether they've increased their staffing and budget enough to tape out a full family of chips every year.
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Riven posted:Welp Apple revalued my 2017 MacBook Pro trade-in from $800 to $0 because the "backlight is broken." So I assume UPS broke it in transit. Now they're charging $800 to my card as a standard charge, not spread out with the payment plan and I may be getting a broken laptop back. Not super happy right now. Zil posted:Any word on what will be improved? Plus in the case of the Mac mini and MBA there's the rumored redesigns which will probably be the bigger deal for most people. BobHoward posted:* - It's possible they may sometimes skip years on the 'pro' chips. That's a pattern they had for a few years with iPad Pro, anyways. Time will tell whether they've increased their staffing and budget enough to tape out a full family of chips every year. (There's also the long rumored multi M1 Pro/Max Mac Pro, I guess sneak it in before the M2 comes out?)
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Riven posted:Welp Apple revalued my 2017 MacBook Pro trade-in from $800 to $0 because the "backlight is broken." So I assume UPS broke it in transit. Now they're charging $800 to my card as a standard charge, not spread out with the payment plan and I may be getting a broken laptop back. Not super happy right now. Out of curiosity, where did it ship to when you mailed it off?
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FCKGW posted:I really don’t think we’ll see an M2 until all the Intel macs are gone which means updating the higher end Mac Mini, the rest of the iMac lineup and of course the Mac Pro. Once all that is done then we start seeing M2 products rolling out. M1 for the Mac Air / Mini came out in 2020? What are the opinions on whether apple rolls out something for the M2 in this upcoming year (2022)? From the posts above, the opinion seems to be probably more incremental than big jump. Which, given how big a jump the M1 was, I think incremental makes sense IMO.
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SourKraut posted:Out of curiosity, where did it ship to when you mailed it off? Tracking number from my drop off receipt says Elk Grove, CA. In terms of proof…I was using it up through the day I shipped it. I have backup files from that day. No photos or anything. Have to see when it comes back to me. Riven fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Riven posted:Tracking number from my drop off receipt says Elk Grove, CA. In terms of proof…I was using it up through the day I shipped it. I have backup files from that day. No photos or anything. Have to see when it comes back to me. Ah poo poo, ok. I sent mine off to Apple's site in Elk Grove, CA too... here's hoping they also don't gently caress mine. Is there any way to dispute it? I'd be furious if I were in your shoes and probably trying to work my way through customer service management.
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Duckman2008 posted:M1 for the Mac Air / Mini came out in 2020?
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SourKraut posted:Ah poo poo, ok. I sent mine off to Apple's site in Elk Grove, CA too... here's hoping they also don't gently caress mine. I’m waiting until I get it back. I found a Reddit thread where someone’s watch got denied because it wouldn’t power on. They got it back and it powered on just fine. Mine was covered in sticker residue to be fair. I’m wondering if they can’t deny it for that so just lied. If it’s actually broken though you can be sure I will be bitching and moaning to anyone I can get ahold of including my local fruit stand.
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Riven posted:I’m waiting until I get it back. I found a Reddit thread where someone’s watch got denied because it wouldn’t power on. They got it back and it powered on just fine. Mine was covered in sticker residue to be fair. I’m wondering if they can’t deny it for that so just lied. If it’s actually broken though you can be sure I will be bitching and moaning to anyone I can get ahold of including my local fruit stand. I posted this in the iPhone thread but when I did a trade in my phone got stolen by ups lol. Someone cut the seal on the box put junk in there and let it get to Apple. Apple sent me an email saying they didn’t receive what they expected and shipped it back. It took a bit but eventually Apple gave me the trade in price.
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So I am more and more leaning towards getting the Mac Mini for my setup, and I think I’ll balance getting “only the M1” by just getting the upgraded RAM, plus I’ll see what the sales are for Black Friday. One thing I’ll need: any suggestions on a webcam ? I don’t need anything fancy, just simple and solid for standard video chat with family. Inout here has been super helpful, as expected, so thanks everyone.
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Duckman2008 posted:One thing I’ll need: any suggestions on a webcam ? I don’t need anything fancy, just simple and solid for standard video chat with family. Whatever the best Logitech you can afford/want to pay for is really the big breakdown is whether you want 4K or not
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Duckman2008 posted:M1 for the Mac Air / Mini came out in 2020? M1 actually released on Nov 10th of last year so we're barely past 1 year into Apple's 2 year AS trasition. If I were to guess I think we'll see the Apple Silicon MacPro reveal around WWDC with the Intel Mac Mini and iMacs getting their M1 Pro/Max updates around that time as well. Fall is when we get M2 refresh for back to school.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Whatever the best Logitech you can afford/want to pay for is Also, for anyone who has a Costco membership and a Costco nearby, they often have the AVmedia (sp?) webcams available in the warehouse, and recently they were on reduced price. It's a decent little 1080p 60fps webcam with a privacy shutter that I can confirm works well with macOS.
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Does the fan go on with the M1 Pro/Max machines when you're driving 2 external monitors? The fans ramping to near-max speed when I have my 2nd external on because AMD sucks poo poo at writing video drivers is the least favorite part of my 16" Intel MBP.
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Adding extra monitors doesn’t force the GPU into high-power mode. It’ll be nice and quiet until you actually do GPU-intensive tasks.
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I use a 1080 and 1440 externals at my office and a 1080 and 4k at home plus the laptop screen and have never heard the fan. Ever. Regardless of what I’ve done monitors or no. Whereas my 2017 Pro w dGPU the fan would turn on when I opened Zoom.
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Godzilla07 posted:Does the fan go on with the M1 Pro/Max machines when you're driving 2 external monitors? The fans ramping to near-max speed when I have my 2nd external on because AMD sucks poo poo at writing video drivers is the least favorite part of my 16" Intel MBP. Nah They don’t. I never hear the fans unless I’m playing WoW and even then I can barely hear them.
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Godzilla07 posted:Does the fan go on with the M1 Pro/Max machines when you're driving 2 external monitors? The fans ramping to near-max speed when I have my 2nd external on because AMD sucks poo poo at writing video drivers is the least favorite part of my 16" Intel MBP. The only time I have heard the fans on mine is when it hard locked while I was testing a beta OS update and they kicked on full blast. I normally use it with 2 4K monitors through a TB dock and it is entirely silent.
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Same story as everyone else. Running a 4K and a 1920x1200 external and never heard a thing.
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I think I already know the answer to this, but as a part of my Mac mini saga. I’m monitoring Black Friday deals. It looks like it’s mostly the 8GB RAM Mini that is getting discounted. Not a lot of “pay the difference for the 16GB.” Which doesn’t surprise me. I def don’t need more storage than 256GB, and considering my 2013 Max Air is currently more than serviceable , 8GB RAM is probably fine. I was ok with paying $200 for the difference just because of future proofing , but if it’s more than that I still am open, just like, man I might save $300+. The mini is gonna be plugged up to a 27” 1080 monitor and a 55” 4K TV. At most I’m like, streaming a sports game on one screen, discord on another. No gaming.
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Put aside the $200 and buy your next Mx Mac that much earlier.
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Is there a half height high speed SD card that’s known to be preferred for semi permanent installation in one of the new MBPs?
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The old microSD adapter should still fit right? I have one here that went into my old air I was planning to use
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Duckman2008 posted:I’m monitoring Black Friday deals. It looks like it’s mostly the 8GB RAM Mini that is getting discounted. Not a lot of “pay the difference for the 16GB.” Which doesn’t surprise me. Yeah, the Mac Mini is amazing. I am enjoying mine - it keeps impressing me. Costco has the base model for $60 off. Go for it.
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Costco has the base model M1 Macbook Air for $799 now. Comes with 90 day return policy and 2 year warranty, 4 if you use the Costco Visa. Good through 12/24 https://www.costco.com/macbook-air-....100688258.html
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