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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

petit choux posted:

His novel had people living in tents and wearing paper clothing like in ancient times.

When were said ancient times?

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petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Trainee PornStar posted:

When were said ancient times?

My education is a bit spotty but I think we're talking 12th C or so?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

petit choux posted:

My education is a bit spotty but I think we're talking 12th C or so?

I'm no expert but that was just after the crusades & I'm pretty sure we were not living in tents & wearing paper clothes.

WorldsStongestNerd
Apr 28, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Trainee PornStar posted:

I'm no expert but that was just after the crusades & I'm pretty sure we were not living in tents & wearing paper clothes.

Maybe your ancestors weren't Mr. Moneybags. :colbert:

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

WorldsStongestNerd posted:

Maybe your ancestors weren't Mr. Moneybags. :colbert:

lol

oxford university got started in 1096 so the tech tree had been going for a while by 12th century.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Trainee PornStar posted:

I'm no expert but that was just after the crusades & I'm pretty sure we were not living in tents & wearing paper clothes.

I thought they used heavy parchment for clothing items, maybe not. Okay, what I'm seeing now is that the clothing was used to make the paper so it appears it was a misunderstanding on my part? I'm not seeing any corroboration so I guess it's up to me.

Behold, somebody who admitted they were mistaken. Must be gay or something.

quote:

"These rags came from discarded clothes, which cost much less than the very expensive parchment which was previously used for books. In the 13th century, so it is thought, as more people moved into urban centres, the use of underwear increased - which caused an increase in the number of rags available for paper-making."

petit choux has issued a correction as of 19:24 on Nov 19, 2021

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Mayor Dave posted:

The really worrisome part of the QAnon movement is that it encourages people to view the world as one giant Da Vinci code. It's addictive, it encourages the community to become more tightly knit, and since it's an amalgam of all the big conspiracy theories anyone who believes in one is susceptible to getting sucked in. Once this stuff gets into the social media dopamine loop it's nearly impossible to dislodge, and because the people who are discussing the theory tend to be active in related spaces their attitude of anger and paranoia spreads to people who haven't even heard of Q. These people are going to continue 'baking' reality and getting increasingly violent and we really don't have a way to stop it.

This post really rings true for me, I think you're onto something. The way these people talk is always half in code, it's like a video game they are trying to figure out on social media and in their own heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQ0_-tLo68&t=2460s
they both ded of covid

they won't even say words like vaccine or fauci because they think the algorithm is scanning them all the time, this fantasy video game will never end

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Pryor on Fire posted:

This post really rings true for me, I think you're onto something. The way these people talk is always half in code, it's like a video game they are trying to figure out on social media and in their own heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQ0_-tLo68&t=2460s
they both ded of covid

they won't even say words like vaccine or fauci because they think the algorithm is scanning them all the time, this fantasy video game will never end

American brains are terminally poisoned. A life of ease and the only requirement being that you toe the line, you get this.

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-PwoQb5GSw

take me, to siberia,
and the coldest weather of the wintertime,
and it would just be like spring in california,
as long as i knew you were mine


bonus: scorpions in the video

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I am continually reminded of the TV show Years And Years (highly recommended for this thread btw) where one of the main characters meets someone who denies that the US nuke on China ever happened, despite the overwhelming evidence

e: even the soundtrack is very This Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl90ZByp4XY

I just watched the first episode because of this post. Thanks a lot...

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

1glitch0 posted:

I just watched the first episode because of this post. Thanks a lot...

And I think I'm going to as well.

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!
it's kinda dull at times, but you can scrub past the drama bits and get a good feel for what the minimum bound of the near future is like. the ending is nonsensical but you have parable of the sower or children of men to pick up where it leaves off

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
apparently a lot of grocery stores are completely loving barren in bc now, rip

this is why you hoard BEFORE the disaster hits

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
more of the same

Blockade Australia: anti-coal activists vow more disruption despite warnings of 25-year jail sentences

but this quote made me lmfao

quote:

The deputy prime minister, Barnaby Joyce, was furious with the protesters when he visited Singleton this week. Appearing at the train station as a coal load sped past, he claimed each train load of coal was worth about $1m in export value.

He said that by Monday the blockades had disrupted $60m in exports.

“If they’ve got other ways that this nation can earn money right now, then we’re all ears,” Joyce said. “[But] in the meantime, we’ve got to make a buck.

hahahahaha we're so, so, so hosed

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
did anyone else read Doggerland yet? that book was fantastic cli-fi

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

toggle posted:

Is all this conspiracy poo poo happening because people can't control what's happening? Is it the same as all the anti mask/vax dogshit? Will people be protesting to stop "geo-engineering our land away" soon?

we're fukn doomed :laugh:

Can't wait to protest side-by-side with these nuts against stratospheric aerosol injection when world leaders say it's the best way to slow down warming without hurting the almighty Number.

https://twitter.com/harpersbazaarus/status/1460958025888546822?s=20

quote:

Two things happened at the end of this summer that seemed irreconcilable. The first one is that in the midst of a historic drought, following months of record-breaking heat waves and a fire season that generally peaks in the fall but was already well underway in August, more than 1.5 million acres of California burned to the ground. “Every acre can, and will, burn someday in this state,” the state fire chief said. “Be ready now.” The second is that my boyfriend and I decided to remodel our kitchen in a house in a Northern California town that has a pretty good chance of burning down at some point in the not-so-distant future.

...

Articles about climate collapse (I refuse to use the phrase “climate change” because it fails to describe what we are facing) often follow the same emotional trajectory: The writer begins in helplessness; the writer weighs the options and discovers that there really aren’t any—choosing either death or to keep living with fear, grief, and horror. Because the writer can strike this note but can’t possibly end on it, the story will say something like “Hey, I know this new kitchen isn’t taking shape in a perfect world. But when has the world ever been perfect? I’m going to cherish my new kitchen, knowing our time together will be short. Because really, we have only this moment anyway.” Another possible ending: “I remember that my family and friends are what matters and that home is not my kitchen; it is wherever those people who love me, whom I love, are. So even if my new kitchen burns down, the center of my home, which is love, can never be taken away.”

The first ending refuses to take into account anxiety or dread. Meaning, the expression “Be here now” is fine if you’re a dog, but I am not a dog. No amount of meditation will make me one, and frankly, I would have preferred a life in which every time I appreciated my beautiful new kitchen, I did not in the same moment also imagine it as a heap of ash. I will never have that life, and all I can say about that is that it loving sucks.

As far as the home-is-where-the-heart-is ending, obviously I would rather lose my kitchen than my boyfriend. Ideally, I would like to feel secure in both. The sad truth is that nothing about where I live is secure anymore. I love my boyfriend, but loving him does not obscure the horror of the recent realizations that we are more likely to lose our home than we are to keep it and that I might spend my most feeble years going from place to place, seeking the sense of relative stability I had until the summer of 2021, the summer when no one could ignore that the planet was falling apart. So for now, home is the place where we are installing a new kitchen because if we didn’t, we would have to admit that we live in a world so treacherous that there is no point in remodeling a kitchen, even one this ugly. This might be true, but living with our ugly kitchen is so depressing, we can’t possibly take on more depression by being honest about the futility of building a new one. For now, we have a home. But we will never be able to settle into it. The fact that neither of us tries to make the other one pretend this isn’t true is such a relief that it feels a little bit like home. It’s not. But it will have to do.


That's it, that's how the article ends. Do you hear the sound of cracking and pinging? It seems to be getting louder.

bowser has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Nov 19, 2021

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021


The mayors of Miami and New York being so gung ho on mining and using bitcoin is so loving funny because those are probably going to be two of the hardest hit major cities from rising sea levels, and they're out here just pumping as much extra CO2 as they can for fake internet money. Real sicko death wish poo poo.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Cold on a Cob posted:

apparently a lot of grocery stores are completely loving barren in bc now, rip

this is why you hoard BEFORE the disaster hits



These people would have been fine if they just bought a bunch of the "sugar" and "flour" boxes instead of the clearly labeled "hoarded sugar" and "hoarded flour" bags

rookie mistake imo

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


luckily i, as a patriotic canadian, can continue to hoard beans because they aren't sugar flour

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
i'm only hoarding sugar free red bull, which oddly enough has gone down in price lately

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

The Wisest Moron posted:

The mayors of Miami and New York being so gung ho on mining and using bitcoin is so loving funny because those are probably going to be two of the hardest hit major cities from rising sea levels, and they're out here just pumping as much extra CO2 as they can for fake internet money. Real sicko death wish poo poo.

Americans.txt

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

I know, we'll use the magic of computers to make money out of thin air! We'll be rich!

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal

Cold on a Cob posted:

apparently a lot of grocery stores are completely loving barren in bc now, rip

this is why you hoard BEFORE the disaster hits



good thing i don't give a poo poo about patriotism

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
NY makes slightly more sense because we'll probably let DC go underwater before we give up on NY, so they can probably expect to be literally and figuratively bailed out as long as it's still physically possible

Miami is lol because nobody gives a poo poo about Miami

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Paradoxish posted:

NY makes slightly more sense because we'll probably let DC go underwater before we give up on NY,

:wrong:

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


petit choux posted:

I know, we'll use the magic of computers to make money out of thin air! We'll be rich!
we already have mortgages and the stock market

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

we already have mortgages and the stock market

You can't really launder money with fast turnaround with those though, can you?

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


The Wisest Moron posted:

The mayors of Miami and New York being so gung ho on mining and using bitcoin is so loving funny because those are probably going to be two of the hardest hit major cities from rising sea levels, and they're out here just pumping as much extra CO2 as they can for fake internet money. Real sicko death wish poo poo.

It's OK we'll all be living on space colonies when that happens. Didn't you listen to Daddy Bezos? We're going to become his space slaves, how exciting!

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.
I've been buying extra flour and canned poo poo every time I shop since the end of August. Not hoarder quanties at once, just more than we'll burn through before next shopping. Flour will last about 2 years in freezer conditions.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Pryor on Fire posted:

This post really rings true for me, I think you're onto something. The way these people talk is always half in code, it's like a video game they are trying to figure out on social media and in their own heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQ0_-tLo68&t=2460s
they both ded of covid

they won't even say words like vaccine or fauci because they think the algorithm is scanning them all the time, this fantasy video game will never end

Ironic that the algorithm will continue to make money off of the dead, whether or not they obey.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I am continually reminded of the TV show Years And Years (highly recommended for this thread btw) where one of the main characters meets someone who denies that the US nuke on China ever happened, despite the overwhelming evidence

e: even the soundtrack is very This Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl90ZByp4XY

first episode gave me heart palpitations

the last is like distilled D&D liberal fantasy

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

petit choux posted:

I thought they used heavy parchment for clothing items, maybe not. Okay, what I'm seeing now is that the clothing was used to make the paper so it appears it was a misunderstanding on my part? I'm not seeing any corroboration so I guess it's up to me.

Behold, somebody who admitted they were mistaken. Must be gay or something.

chill mate, I wasn't having a pop at you.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Trainee PornStar posted:

chill mate, I wasn't having a pop at you.

Nor I at you, though I can see why you might think I am. I'm just venting. :hi5: I heard this historical factoid on a radio show, and I was probably at work driving an airport shuttle, about 15 years ago. The whole story was how the plague made paper more available and caused more widespread literacy, but a bit vague on details I think. no biggie, thanks.

petit choux has issued a correction as of 21:26 on Nov 19, 2021

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

petit choux posted:

You can't really launder money with fast turnaround with those though, can you?

or buy drugs....

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
“Even the experts were just completely surprised by it,” said [BC Premier John] Horgan. “I think all British Columbians fully understand that now we have to better prepare for events like this. But we couldn’t have even imagined it six months ago.”

gently caress i think i'm having a stroke lol

kater
Nov 16, 2010

Rectal Death Adept posted:

illegal deforestation

wait is illegal deforestation being halted or legal.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

bowser posted:

Can't wait to protest side-by-side with these nuts against stratospheric aerosol injection when world leaders say it's the best way to slow down warming without hurting the almighty Number.

https://twitter.com/harpersbazaarus/status/1460958025888546822?s=20

That's it, that's how the article ends. Do you hear the sound of cracking and pinging? It seems to be getting louder.

What I think of when I read that article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhZSvTr5e_U

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Yeah the finance class will just abandon wall street and just move to chicago

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Milo and POTUS posted:

Yeah the finance class will just abandon wall street and just move to chicago Charlotte

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Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Perry Mason Jar posted:

I'm actually not totally convinced what the proper course of action. It is my feeling that Truth is paramount at all times - this includes that if I know a Truth it is wrong for me to hide that truth from you. I'm not really in the business of protecting people's feelings, I feel, because... well, I think because it's a bit of an insult really? I don't know whether someone will crumble before this truth or not and assuming they will doesn't seem correct. More than that if they are scared it will only be through facing directly that they can build courage. They will need courage.

I really am not a fan of analogies but let's see if this is worth anything: if you have a child and a relative who is dying and the child asks "Is my relative dying?" what should you say?

Maybe I didn't express myself well. I'm not saying you withhold information from him (since he's asking for it). I'm saying that you give him a chance to think again about whether he really wants to know. If what he knows now is mostly what he's absorbed from mainstream media and pop culture then he likely has no idea just how grim it is. He's probably still in the mindset of 2c by 2100 and that with a little pluck and gumption we'll be able to overcome it.

I've had 20 odd years to slowly acclimatize to that fact that we're hopelessly hosed and it's still hard to know.

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