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Sab669 posted:What exactly does "Anakin vibes" mean? I have seen Star Wars exactly 1 time and don't remember poo poo tbh. Someone else [or their partner] ITT said the exact same thing lol. I can easily see Rand whining to Egwene how he hates sand, it's course and gets everywhere.
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Sab669 posted:And yea in the beginning of the episode we some of the Red Ajah - your color coded Aes Sedai - chasing him and she's watching from an overlook and says he's too old or something. Those were different characters
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Nov 19, 2021 23:03
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Rarity posted:I feel like this misses the main point which is 'even if the books did say they were white who the gently caress cares?' I didn't even realize this was a thing and ... why? Once again you are the scoopsgal. Not spoiler review for the curious. Only a semi book dog. Started binging due to SA when I was 13 and liked them (despite having more and more issues going along with Jordan's writing) until the book devoted entirely to "smooth skirts, tugs the braid" which was my very first Dexterizing experience. I hated it and swore never to read it or watch anything and... I enjoyed it quite a bit. Not perfect but really nice. I'd put it visually above Witcher but less grounded and high budget than early GoT. Monsters looked cool, actors were really good and some of the scenery was really nice. Dialogue and plot seemed fairly good and lots of hooks that got me. I was shocked how much I was into it. Really like every actor, including the one playing my teen book arch nemesis Nynaeve. I HATED the character in the book I always thought she was just stupidly stubborn and ridiculously hard headed to the point of parody as opposed to what people were actually like. I was 13. In this show she is far less parody and the actress did a great job making me NOT hate her. She sees far more competent and, although wary and skeptical, not a complete obstinate proto Karen. Only real semi-spoiler question that I can' t remember from the books: Was the world this Post-Post Apoc in the books? I didn't think we'd come across this many obvious signs of previous civilizations including our modern world. Don't understand any of the hate for this show as Witcher was far more flawed. Nitpick I did think the Whitecloaks looked better without the one armoured arm with the silly sun guard up top.That looked a bit cheap and silly in white or gold and reminded me of the terrible Witcher bad guy armour. I really liked the Questioner actor as he brought such menace with his smile.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:04
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IcePhoenix posted:gonna spoil this just in case but this is context that the book would have done a better job conveying than the show apparently did and is also common knowledge to the characters (and really the entire world of the show) Thanks! I interpreted (answer to book-spoiler) "undoing the existence" more as "breaking the wheel" of a sketchy rebirth-belief. Seems i should have taken it more literally (or it was translated in a weird way into german) Re "Anakin vibes" - he looks a bit like him and totally has that air of "chosen one" right off the bat. But i should have added, that he matured WAY better over the course of the three episodes and almost grown out of that comparison.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:06
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IcePhoenix posted:gonna spoil this just in case but this is context that the book would have done a better job conveying than the show apparently did and is also common knowledge to the characters (and really the entire world of the show) I thought the guy at the beginning who was hallucinating his buddy was a different guy than the one in the cage Mazrim Taim, who in the books is in his mid-late 30s.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:13
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navyjack posted:I thought the guy at the beginning who was hallucinating his buddy was a different guy than the one in the cage Mazrim Taim, who in the books is in his mid-late 30s. The guy in the cage is Logain, not Taim. The guys at the beginning were not in the book, that's a completely TV show original thing.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:16
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DogsInSpace! posted:Only real semi-spoiler question that I can' t remember from the books: Was the world this Post-Post Apoc in the books? I didn't think we'd come across this many obvious signs of previous civilizations including our modern world. Answer from the books Sort of? There are the ruins of previous civilizations scattered about here and there. The age of legends, thousands of years ago, was very advanced and those buildings probably date from there. The first concrete reference they make is far later in the series, where there's a port town on top of a mountain that has been abandoned. Because when the dragon broke the world, he broke it big time, and stuff got jumbled around a lot. There's other bits and bobs left over, so having those there isn't really wildly out of story, even if it was never explicitly mentioned.
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bou posted:Thanks! I interpreted (answer to book-spoiler) "undoing the existence" more as "breaking the wheel" of a sketchy rebirth-belief. Seems i should have taken it more literally (or it was translated in a weird way into german) I don't think it was translated weird, I glossed over it watching it because I've read all the books (multiple times) so it's second nature to me but reading your post I realized they really only said it in terms of reincarnation instead of it just being the fabric of all existence navyjack posted:I thought the guy at the beginning who was hallucinating his buddy was a different guy than the one in the cage Mazrim Taim, who in the books is in his mid-late 30s. I actually thought the same thing at first
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Nov 19, 2021 23:18
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:really enjoying that nynaeve is a total badass right off the bat, as opposed to the books where IIRC she started out mostly as a nag I just finished book 4 and she's still a nag. But so are almost all the women, gender dynamics are not a strong suit of the story.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:19
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The guy in the cage is Logain, not Taim. Ugh yeah that’s who I meant, but was he the guy the Reds caught at the beginning?
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Nov 19, 2021 23:20
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navyjack posted:Ugh yeah that’s who I meant, but was he the guy the Reds caught at the beginning? Nope.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:22
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navyjack posted:Ugh yeah that’s who I meant, but was he the guy the Reds caught at the beginning? No, the guy in the beginning was just some random poor bastard the Reds tracked down
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Nov 19, 2021 23:24
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CainsDescendant posted:No, the guy in the beginning was just some random poor bastard the Reds tracked down They should really have made them look more different. I just assumed that they moved so slowly at the speed of plot and that was the same man,
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Nov 19, 2021 23:37
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Oh I was definitely thinking they were both Logain
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Nov 19, 2021 23:40
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Sab669 posted:Oh I was definitely thinking they were both Logain I’m going to have to spin that scene up again and use the X-ray feature and see who it was.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:52
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navyjack posted:I’m going to have to spin that scene up again and use the X-ray feature and see who it was. I already did. He's credited as "young man".
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Nov 19, 2021 23:53
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It seems with Nynaeve they're avoiding writing her as passive-aggressive and just going for aggressive-aggressive. It owns.
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Nov 19, 2021 23:59
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bou posted:Everybody loves a newbie reaction, right?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It seems with Nynaeve they're avoiding writing her as passive-aggressive and just going for aggressive-aggressive. The only sucky part about Nynaeve not being the passive aggresive know it all from the book, is we don't get the payoff when she (very rarely) got her cumupance
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Nov 20, 2021 00:14
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DogsInSpace! posted:
Books answer: Sorta, but it's not even really recognized for what it is in many cases, and the descriptions are easy to gloss over or miss what they're supposed to be. There's stuff like a giant radio telescope dish (probably), but it's just described as a strangely smooth bowl with a big spike in the center that makes people feel bad if they go in to the middle of it. Or the Mercedes emblem in a museum lol.
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DogsInSpace! posted:Only real semi-spoiler question that I can' t remember from the books: Was the world this Post-Post Apoc in the books? I didn't think we'd come across this many obvious signs of previous civilizations including our modern world. The books did have modern world remnants but the reader largely had to piece that together on their own since the descriptions were always somewhat vague and entirely from an in-world perspective. Biggest one I can think of is an item that’s a hood ornament from a Benz but I didn’t even pick up on it while reading and only found out when I saw it mentioned somewhere on the internet. Beyond stuff like that, there’s a few moments in the Aiel Wastes where you read about a pre-Age of Legends civilization that has modern day tech but it’s not explicitly “our world”. I’m not sure if there’s anything else besides the hood ornament that’s directly tied to modern day Earth. Essentially I don’t think most book readers would EXPECT a ton of post-post apocalypse stuff but having it in the show isn’t going against canon if they keep it as background-only visual stuff. Not sure if I’m a fan of Manetheron’s ruins being a bunch of skyscrapers since that was a trolloc war city but I’m not getting worked up about it. Leathal fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Books answer: There's also ties to our history in some of the ancient myths Thom tells like the two giants Mosk and Merk (USSR and America in the Cold War) or Therese, Healer of All (Mother Theresa)
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Leathal posted:
I don't think that you've got the right location there. You see that shot well after they leave two rivers, and Manatheron's city was up in the mountains. And finally, Manatheron was not of the age of legend, which those ruins certainly looked like.
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Nov 20, 2021 00:54
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DogsInSpace! posted:Really like every actor, including the one playing my teen book arch nemesis Nynaeve. I HATED the character in the book I always thought she was just stupidly stubborn and ridiculously hard headed to the point of parody as opposed to what people were actually like. I was 13. In this show she is far less parody and the actress did a great job making me NOT hate her. She sees far more competent and, although wary and skeptical, not a complete obstinate proto Karen. This is a common thing with Nynaeve for people who read the books when they were pretty young. I felt the same way. Then when I reread several years later, her character pretty much owns from the beginning.
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I don't know if it was just me, but did anyone think (or noticed?) certain scenic shots suddenly looking like a painting? There was a shot of two rivers, then another scenic shot after they left. Both in episode 1. I'm going to try find those bits to rewatch now, as I am unsure if it was just my TV or connection! Generally, though, the series is excellent so far. The trollocs do look a little on the over-CGI side of things, but honestly it's no worse than the Hobbit movies. I did wonder how they would try to convey the trollocs, and what they've done is not a bad effort. The CGI does allow a more bestial feel to them (particularly those ones running on all fours). Mostly though, I am just exicited to finally get this story. I only got to book 7 and can no longer stand Robert Jordan's writing.
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Kilson posted:This is a common thing with Nynaeve for people who read the books when they were pretty young. I felt the same way. Rereading the series as an adult, she was always awesome, and those of us who hated her when we were young either grew up or didn't.
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Kilson posted:Then when I reread several years later, her character pretty much owns from the beginning. I last re-read the series when I was well into my 30s and no, she still seemed very much to be a know it all jerk who was very often wrong about things, especially any kind of persona interaction. Xmas Pterodactyl posted:Generally, though, the series is excellent so far. The trollocs do look a little on the over-CGI side of things, but honestly it's no worse than the Hobbit movies. I did wonder how they would try to convey the trollocs, and what they've done is not a bad effort. The only valid complaint about diversity in this show is that there isn't enough of it in the trollocs. They're almost all goat horned. You hardly ever see any wolf or pig types. I dont' recall seeing a single bird type.
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Rarity posted:Books answer: Oh and don’t forget Lenn who flew in the belly of an Eagle (John Glenn) and his daughter Salya who walked amongst the stars(Sally Ride)! Anla the Wise Counselor (advice columnist Ann Landers) There are all kinds of Easter Eggs. I would tend to not characterize Randland as future Earth, though. It’s more like our reality is their myth. The Wheel Turns.
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CainFortea posted:I last re-read the series when I was well into my 30s and no, she still seemed very much to be a know it all jerk who was very often wrong about things, especially any kind of persona interaction. I think you can catch glimpses of different faces, deffo saw a beak in there somewhere. Honestly though they look for like the Darkspawn from Dragon Age than what I imagined them to be. I always thought of them as being like a Tengu* but all horned and goat legs and just god drat terrifying. These all felt a bit... I dunno, just generic? *I don't mean the big nosed red faced things. I always thought a Tengu was what they had in Guild Wars but apparently I am wrong???? 
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early second ep spoiler it's been a very long time since I last read EotW but did Moiraine really kill the ferry guy in the books? What happened to the oaths?
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Intruder posted:early second ep spoiler it's been a very long time since I last read EotW but did Moiraine really kill the ferry guy in the books? What happened to the oaths? In the books she set his ferry loose and set him off chasing it
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Intruder posted:early second ep spoiler it's been a very long time since I last read EotW but did Moiraine really kill the ferry guy in the books? What happened to the oaths? Book 1 spoiler No the ferryman survives in the book. And it's not overt (it is obvious, but she's not overt about it) that Moiraine sinks the ferry in that version.
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Solefald posted:I think you can catch glimpses of different faces, deffo saw a beak in there somewhere. Honestly though they look for like the Darkspawn from Dragon Age than what I imagined them to be. 8 ft tall sam eagle just mauling folks
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Intruder posted:early second ep spoiler it's been a very long time since I last read EotW but did Moiraine really kill the ferry guy in the books? What happened to the oaths? it's a scene set up to establish a sense of how she can bend things to qualify for the oaths. if the guy had just stayed there he'd have been fine. instead he tried to go get the ferry that she was sinking, which she was all doing to prevent them to get to their side which would have endangered her, her warder, and the rest of the group, and the threat was from shadowspawn at that. she didn't kill the guy directly but he was going to die since he left the dock, no matter what, and going even further it could have ended up with all of them dead.
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Nov 20, 2021 03:09
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I love the design of the trollocs, they really (book spoiler) come off as legitimately something that could have been designed by the forsaken I always pictured fades as having human mouths but eh
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Intruder posted:I love the design of the trollocs, they really (book spoiler) come off as legitimately something that could have been designed by the forsaken join us https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3897992
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Intruder posted:early second ep spoiler What happened to the oaths? she literally answers this question as soon as it happens, she sunk the ferry, while everyone was still on land, it was the dude's problem that he went after it
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re: laila She is absolutely readying to take a swing, the only possible non-betrayal reasoning is that she wanted to help finish off the trolloc on the ground but I can't imagine not thinking Perrin already has it in hand.
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