petit choux posted:

Milo and POTUS posted:

Charlotte got a big finance sector huh? That's neat. Or not neat but rather something I've never heard of

Milo and POTUS posted:

Charlotte got a big finance sector huh? That's neat. Or not neat but rather something I've never heard of

Cabbages and Kings posted:

I've been buying extra flour and canned poo poo every time I shop since the end of August. Not hoarder quanties at once, just more than we'll burn through before next shopping. Flour will last about 2 years in freezer conditions.

petit choux posted:

Yeah cute but that dependency on two points is absurd. Looks fun but no.

Cold on a Cob posted:

“Even the experts were just completely surprised by it,” said [BC Premier John] Horgan. “I think all British Columbians fully understand that now we have to better prepare for events like this. But we couldn’t have even imagined it six months ago.”

gently caress i think i'm having a stroke lol

lollontee posted:

why would you put some cables to support that

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Maybe I didn't express myself well. I'm not saying you withhold information from him (since he's asking for it). I'm saying that you give him a chance to think again about whether he really wants to know. If what he knows now is mostly what he's absorbed from mainstream media and pop culture then he likely has no idea just how grim it is. He's probably still in the mindset of 2c by 2100 and that with a little pluck and gumption we'll be able to overcome it.

I've had 20 odd years to slowly acclimatize to that fact that we're hopelessly hosed and it's still hard to know.

Paradoxish posted:

no one will ever prepare for anything because anything we haven't already experienced is unimaginable

doesn't matter how perfect the models are, even the most "climate-ready" governments will always be ten steps behind because it's way too costly to prepare for actual worst-case scenarios

goochtit posted:

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1461772635889618945
rip big guys gonna miss you but gotta go fast

goochtit posted:

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1461772635889618945
rip big guys gonna miss you but gotta go fast

petit choux posted:

... which is exactly the argument used in one of the tweets quoted ITT a few weeks ago, IIRC. We couldn't prepare for this eventuality because it's never happened before.

Cold on a Cob posted:

i'm only hoarding sugar free red bull, which oddly enough has gone down in price lately

Paradoxish posted:

yeah, normalcy bias clearly affects disaster planning as much as anything else

even worst-case scenarios need to fit within a relatively narrow range, and anything outside of that range has to be viewed as extremely improbable and not worth more than hypothetical consideration

Marenghi posted:

For some reason I can't find sugar free drinks in Ireland, or at least there's less of them. I assume the sugar alternative they use is in low supply due to brexit/logisitics problems.

Fireside Nut posted:

Thanks so much! I’ll give this a look

The Demilich posted:

Do you have a list of the tech/tools you utilize?

take_it_slow posted:

Effort-post

Rectal Death Adept posted:

abruptly losing the concept of "Cold" seems like one of those things we are going to let take us by surprise as a society despite it being perfectly obvious now that once we store enough energy we just won't have Ice or Winters anymore.

Too bad all of our policy and discourse is extremely focused on raw carbon emission modeling and the most crude understanding of +Carbon/+Temperature.

Have YOU ever witnessed this so called "Artic"?

Tabletops posted:

this isn't really how our understanding of GCC works. places that get cold will get colder. their summers will be hotter. essentially everything will be extremefied, like 2005.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

is there a super straightforward, baby level data dashboard?

like I just want to see stuff like live line graphs of GHG emissions and expected temperature rise by 2050.

kater posted:

wait is illegal deforestation being halted or legal.

quote:

...
For every day that passes, this conclusion receives further confirmation: the ruling classes of this world are constitutionally incapable of responding to the catastrophe in any other way than by expediting it. Unfortunately, COP26 did not produce any compelling reasons to revise that conclusion. Less than a week after the end of the summit, the Biden administration held the largest federal offshore drilling auction in US history.

There is little to suggest that any other government signing the Glasgow Pact will behave differently.

So what do we do?

We could destroy the machines that destroy this planet. If someone has planted a time bomb in your home, you are entitled to dismantle it. More to the point, if someone has placed an incendiary device inside the high-rise building where you live, and if the foundations are already on fire and people are dying in the cellars, then many would believe that you have an obligation to put the device out of action.

This is the moral case which, I would argue, justifies destroying fossil fuel property. That is completely separate from harming human bodies, for which there is no moral case.

And this particular moral case for direct action is, I believe, overwhelmingly strong, if the realities of the climate catastrophe are recognised. On that premise, how could the physical integrity of fossil fuel property possibly be given precedence? Boris Johnson recently made what might generously be interpreted as an attempt to do so, when he defended the Cambo oilfield, one in the endless series of fresh investments in fossil fuel infrastructure of the kind we just can’t live with: “we can’t just tear up contracts”, he said.

In this view, a contract with an entrepreneur for augmenting the device sending the flames ever higher must be honoured. It takes priority over any other concern. Just why it should have that sanctity, however, seems to me exceedingly difficult to tell.

In the meantime, we can observe that slowing down the climate catastrophe means, by definition, the destruction of fossil capital: there can be no more profiting from fossil fuels. And if governments are incapable of initiating this work, because they take their orders from the top floors, then others should do so. Not because activists can accomplish the abolition of fossil fuels – only states have that potential – but because their role is to ratchet up the pressure for it.

So could the climate movement in the global north achieve its goals by sending cadres or crowds to actually tear machines apart? An unassailable ethical imperative does not necessarily translate into efficacious action. We have received this lesson from the highways of the UK, where the main achievement of Insulate Britain has been rising fury from working-class people on the way to their jobs.

We are deep into the catastrophe; the hour is late, but the escalation has only just begun. We don’t know what exactly will work. The one thing we can be certain of is this: we are in a death spiral, we have to break out of it, and we must try something more. The days of gentle protest may be long over.

Tabletops posted:

this isn't really how our understanding of GCC works. places that get cold will get colder. their summers will be hotter. essentially everything will be extremefied, like 2005.

Ornery and Hornery posted:

is there a super straightforward, baby level data dashboard?

like I just want to see stuff like live line graphs of GHG emissions and expected temperature rise by 2050.

Rectal Death Adept posted:

Places that get cold will get colder and weather will be extremified

Until the amount of carbon and heat reaches a critical point which flips us from a planet that has ice to one that doesn't, like the Late Cretaceous Earth.

Jel Shaker posted:

first episode gave me heart palpitations

the last is like distilled D&D liberal fantasy

Rectal Death Adept posted:

name one thing ice ever did for me

you can't

gently caress ice

Ornery and Hornery posted:

is there a super straightforward, baby level data dashboard?

like I just want to see stuff like live line graphs of GHG emissions and expected temperature rise by 2050.

mawarannahr posted:

abolish ice!

MightyBigMinus posted:

Trabisnikof posted:

the IPCC reports are also a scale of scientific endeavor we've never done before, the fact its conclusions are as damning as they are in such a short span of time, while going against the ideological grain in fundamental ways, is quite amazing.

and honestly they bury the lede more than they even downplay the reality.

like random tidbids the ipcc reports say buried deep in there:


*there is absolutely no historical comparison to the speed and scale of societal transformation required to ensure our societies survive

*if we fail to transform our society so quickly and completely, our existing is unlikely to survive the stress

*the future of 2050 will be unrecognizable

*One of the most optimistic scenarios possible is that a massive near-turn heat wave kills a bunch of wealthy people and that scares the powerful into actually acting

*Another of the most optimistic scenarios is maybe we hit a 7-7-7 jackpot on volcanoes and delay things for 10-20 years

*Losing Miami in the next 20 years is an example of a believable outcome without that aforementioned complete societal transformation

Ornery and Hornery posted:

is there a super straightforward, baby level data dashboard?

like I just want to see stuff like live line graphs of GHG emissions and expected temperature rise by 2050.