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Steven Seagal vs Sean Penn to decide the fate of Ukraine
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Nov 20, 2021 05:26
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The chad Steven vs the virgin Sean.
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Nov 20, 2021 05:27
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wtf even is this this literally looks like some smoothbrained "analyst" drew a couple of lines like its some kind of real world fact and called it a day
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Nov 20, 2021 05:29
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i wonder if penn could recognize the nazi iconography. he seems like an absolute moron
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Nov 20, 2021 05:30
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BrainDance posted:I don't know what to tell you other than I'm sorry you hang out with lovely people. thank you for the condescension but it's not just "my experience hanging out with lovely people", its something that tons of people have experienced abroad to the point of being a fairly well grounded reality. my personal experience was living and working in a GCC middle eastern country where there was a clear racial hierarchy of local rich arabs (at least when within earshot) > whites > south asian/SE asian/african guest worker nationalities (which I fell into), which the white expats fully let you know they were aware of when you were working with them. the brits were the absolute worst. i know its the cursed isle and all that but the people I actually met in the UK were alright, the ones that go to live the expat life abroad are absolute loving scum. mila kunis has issued a correction as of 05:35 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Nov 20, 2021 05:30
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BrainDance posted:Right, there isn't, there are just guesses based on personal experience. "expats" which is generally used by white people to make themselves feel better and superior to the people that are born and live there. also expats are all colonists and hence poo poo people and a sexpat is always an expat hth
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Nov 20, 2021 05:32
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Agrajag posted:wtf even is this why its from our friends at the RAND institute and their paper "War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable" https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1100/RR1140/RAND_RR1140.pdf of which they have to say this about that figure: quote:The hypothesis of a long, severe, and costly war is depicted in Figure 2.1 as notional graphs of expected cumulative declines, or attri- tion, in military capability over time in 2015 and 2025, a period during which Chinese A2AD capability is expected to improve relative to U.S. strike capability. The dotted lines in Figure 2.1 represent a hypothetical moment (T1), within days of the start (T 0), when the sides take stock and decide whether to continue fighting. For our purposes, the figure separates a short conflict from a long one. T 2 is posited as one year; although fighting could continue beyond that, the pattern of losses would remain more or less the same. The first graph (2015) shows that China and the United States both suffer significant but unequal losses in the brief early stage and can expect increasingly divergent losses as war goes on, favoring the United States. The second (2025) shows the effects of improved Chinese A2AD in years to come: China suffers reduced, though still sizable, short-term losses; the United States suffers increased short-term losses; and the gap in expected long-term losses closes.
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Nov 20, 2021 05:34
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oh no I'm not one of those immigrants I'm an ~~expat~~ *fans self*
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Nov 20, 2021 05:34
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Nov 20, 2021 05:34
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Trabisnikof posted:why its from our friends at the RAND institute and their paper "War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable" so a bunch of made up poo poo gotchya
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Nov 20, 2021 05:34
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Atrocious Joe posted:Steven Seagal vs Sean Penn to decide the fate of the Ukraine
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Nov 20, 2021 05:35
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Seagal would kick Penn's rear end, no competition.
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Nov 20, 2021 05:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUbB-kg6P4
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Nov 20, 2021 05:41
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a few DRUNK BONERS posted:oh no I'm not one of those immigrants I'm an ~~expat~~ *fans self* It's just a word to describe people, talking about "sexpats" what other word do you use here? Sexpats comes from expats. In real life I just use people's nationality. mila kunis posted:thank you for the condescension but it's not just "my experience hanging out with lovely people", its something that tons of people have experienced abroad to the point of being a fairly well grounded reality. my personal experience was living and working in a GCC middle eastern country where there was a clear racial hierarchy of local rich arabs (at least when within earshot) > whites > south asian/SE asian/african guest worker nationalities (which I fell into), which the white expats fully let you know they were aware of when you were working with them. It's not condescension. It's literally what it is, you were with lovely people in apparently not China. That sucks. But it's stupid to be like "all people who go to another country are like this, the racial characteristics of the British make them especially evil." That's a gross thing to do about anyone. BrainDance has issued a correction as of 05:44 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Nov 20, 2021 05:41
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oh right i forgot the internet suclibs still think winnie the pooh is illegal or some poo poo in china
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Nov 20, 2021 05:42
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number... go down!?!
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Nov 20, 2021 05:43
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Agrajag posted:so a bunch of made up poo poo gotchya If we can't be imperial bootlickers we grifters would actually have to find real jobs
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Nov 20, 2021 05:45
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anyone that actually attempts to boil down a possible world ending and most assuredly a catastrophic war to a couple of lines like econ 101 supply and demand graph is not a serious person and should never be taken seriously
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Nov 20, 2021 05:47
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BrainDance posted:It's just a word to describe people, talking about "sexpats" what other word do you use here? Sexpats comes from expats. Ehhhh I feel like there's real, attributal filters that create the anglo sexpat creep class, just like how the empire used to send all its most perverted failsons to manage the raj
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Nov 20, 2021 05:48
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Jetto Jagga posted:Ehhhh I feel like there's real, attributal filters that create the anglo sexpat creep class, just like how the empire used to send all its most perverted failsons to manage the raj Definitely, and like I said I could tell you stories about people, and the fetishization of Asian women is undeniable. But the point is, even though that's real, most foreigners living in China are just normal people and not sex creeps, even though they're definitely out there in every seedy bar in Asia. I am a giant nerd so I play Dungeons and Dragons with a bunch of people, they're just normal nerds who happen to be in China. I got climbing buddies, also pretty normal people. etc. I got a friend getting married pretty soon, I am pretty sure he actually loves his fiancée and is not marrying her because he fetishizes her race.
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Nov 20, 2021 05:56
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Nov 20, 2021 05:58
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I don't think that anyone has said every foreigner expat is a sexpat. They definitely exist and it's weird to try to pretend like they're a nonissue or nonexistent.
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Nov 20, 2021 05:59
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Those graphs may be ridiculous but they are also terrifying, because what if someone important takes note of the trend over time and decides to do something while they still can?
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Nov 20, 2021 06:02
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BrainDance posted:"all people who go to another country are like this, the racial characteristics of the British make them especially evil." That's a gross thing to do about anyone. my parents were born and grew up in hong kong during british rule and brit expats treating everyone not white as mere curiosities or lessers is not something made up in other words gently caress you
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Nov 20, 2021 06:07
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I don't think that anyone has said every foreigner expat is a sexpat. They definitely exist and it's weird to try to pretend like they're a nonissue or nonexistent. I've literally said multiple times how big of an issue it is. And gave an example, this is that complaint letter that was written and signed by other foreign staff at a university in the area  That guy was a complete sex pest. That's why 6 or so other people who weren't like that wanted him out. Just like Atopian was saying, it's a minority but a big minority. But you have right in this thread tons of "people living abroad are x", and it's kinda lovely to do that kind of essentialism on any group of people.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:To be clear, that's the hulk of a beached ship in the shoal that's being disputed. The AFP has soldiers on it to maintain a presence i wonder who you have to piss off to get ghost ship duty
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Nov 20, 2021 06:11
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Agrajag posted:oh right i forgot the internet suclibs still think winnie the pooh is illegal or some poo poo in china I remember all the big neon signs with him on it advertising disney english  which is exactly why they banned private tutoring corporations, it all fits
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Nov 20, 2021 06:12
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hmm yes those people from western countries that have historically colonized, brutalized, and committed war crimes all over asia and south east asia are totally good people and not colonizers
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Nov 20, 2021 06:13
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Russian forces actually attacked Ukraine? You'd think this would be bigger news. RT is only publishing stories about Putin ordering humanitarian aid to be dispatched to Donbas.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:16
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Agrajag posted:hmm yes those people from western countries that have historically colonized, brutalized, and committed war crimes all over asia and south east asia are totally good people and not colonizers Random Canadian guy teaching history in China didn't. I get it you're freaking out and stuff, but I've heard this same poo poo about all kinds of races from people before (famous racist youtube China guy) and it's just a trash way to think about people. I guess we're talking about British people for some reason. I'm not British but right, gently caress British colonialism and everything that happened. British DnD GM guy just happened to be born there, he didn't do any of that.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:17
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BrainDance posted:
brits are fine. brits who seek out the expat life are reviled (and have a rep at home as well) for good reason. this reverse racism poo poo you and the other guy are pulling is loving sad as hell
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Nov 20, 2021 06:28
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It's wild to me that someone like this can be a china correspondent and people never wonder if they're getting a good understanding on the thing they're reporting on.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:28
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mila kunis posted:brits are fine. brits who seek out the expat life are reviled (and have a rep at home as well) for good reason. this reverse racism poo poo you and the other guy are pulling is loving sad as hell reverse racism isn't a thing and I never said anything about that. If you want to say "group x is all bad because they live in another country" that's lovely, just in general. It's not even racism, which is why I never said racism. It's just kinda similar to what racist china youtube guy does whenever south africa comes up, but I guess I could make a better comparison to something else.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:32
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BrainDance posted:reverse racism isn't a thing and I never said anything about that. If you want to say "group x is all bad because they live in another country" that's lovely, just in general. Agrajag posted:my parents were born and grew up in hong kong during british rule and brit expats treating everyone not white as mere curiosities or lessers is not something made up yeah. this is basically on par with going "uhh yeah saying there's a systemic racism issue with whites in idk, rural alabama, is problematic". completely inane nonsense at odds with the reality. it is absolutely reverse racism bullshit because you're trying to misdirect valid criticism of the racist and lovely attitudes of these people onto the people who've experienced it and pointed it out. gently caress off mila kunis has issued a correction as of 06:50 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Nov 20, 2021 06:48
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I don't think it's reverse racism, I think it stems from a fundamentally racial world view b/c nothing else seems consistent I remember when goons called out Elon Musk when that diver in Thailand offered to save those kids lives and Musk called him a pedophile based on the fact that he lived in Thailand Musk is dumb and goons were right to call him out
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Nov 20, 2021 07:06
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Some Guy TT posted:if anyone doubts the accuracy of throatwarblers summary this twitter woman who describes peng shuai as a victim downthread did a full translation of the post The full context makes the line "forced me to have sex" a lot clearer, but her treatment appears to have been completely unacceptable regardless.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:07
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mila kunis posted:yeah. this is basically on par with going "uhh yeah saying there's a systemic racism issue with whites in idk, rural alabama, is problematic". completely inane nonsense at odds with the reality. it is absolutely reverse racism bullshit because you're trying to misdirect valid criticism of the racist and lovely attitudes of these people onto the people who've experienced it and pointed it out. gently caress off The only point I made was actually about the "sexpats" stuff, that most people living in another country are just normal people, though a too big minority of them are lovely. That was it. Agrajag and you keep trying to have another conversation, maybe we disagree here but I actually do feel like British colonialism is not really something you should use to say whatever about random guy who happened to be born in England and now lives in China. I'm not even gonna disagree for the most part, Agrajag's parents experience sounds right, and that's poo poo. But it has nothing to do with that random English guy unless you have a really, really bad sort of tribal view of the world. And I dunno, this is what saying "most foreigners in China aren't sexpats, but enough are that it's a problem" brings out then I guess that says it all. You seem to want it to be about race, but that's you that's not what I was on about.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:07
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are there places where sexpats aren’t a thing? American and British nationals in Turkey don’t seem especially horny, certainly no more than locals who will walk up and yell “Hello. Are you sex?” to any foreign woman. the weird ones are the journalists but they’re weird for being bloodthirsty. the main stereotype i observe is expats drink way too much.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:14
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BrainDance posted:The only point I made was actually about the "sexpats" stuff, that most people living in another country are just normal people, though a too big minority of them are lovely. That was it. Agrajag and you keep trying to have another conversation, maybe we disagree here but I actually do feel like British colonialism is not really something you should use to say whatever about random guy who happened to be born in England and now lives in China. because it isn't just historical and past colonialism its an ongoing thing, it's not a "tribal view of the world" (like what tribe am i fighting on part of when everyone from the spanish and the french in europe to filipinos, indonesians, indians, pakistanis, bangladeshis, ethiopians, etc etc in the middle east have experienced absolute garbage treatment) , and saying poo poo like "if you believe british expat communities are racist...perhaps it is you who is the racist??" is reddit tier reverse racism deflection from a systemic issue with expat communities abroad. there's an absolutely lovely toxic mix of racial, class and sexual politics people have experienced from white expat communities in poor countries and i can only assume that your reflexive defensiveness of it just being a small minority of bad apples comes from being enmeshed in it and not having experienced being at the receiving end of it.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:19
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mila kunis posted:because it isn't just historical and past colonialism its an ongoing thing, it's not a "tribal view of the world" (like what tribe am i fighting on part of when everyone from the spanish and the french in europe to filipinos, indonesians, indians, pakistanis, bangladeshis, ethiopians, etc etc in the middle east have experienced absolute garbage treatment) , and saying poo poo like "if you believe british expat communities are racist...perhaps it is you who is the racist??" is reddit tier reverse racism deflection from a systemic issue with expat communities abroad. See? What are you doing, I literally said none of that. What conversation are you having? Who are you talking to? mila kunis posted:there's an absolutely lovely toxic mix of racial, class and sexual politics people have experienced from white expat communities in poor countries and i can only assume that your reflexive defensiveness of it just being a small minority of bad apples comes from being enmeshed in it and not having experienced being at the receiving end of it. I completely agree with you! And if you wanted to have that conversation, sure, but it would be me agreeing with you. But right now you're just arguing with some random argument you wanna have that has nothing to do with what I've said.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:25
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