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Guildenstern Mother posted:I feel like Allison isn't going to lose her poo poo over this not because she doesn't care etc but because like she said before becoming aspected chaos, "all we can do is keep moving forward" which as a character moment doesn't get nearly enough credit. The Lesson that Zoss tried to impart about how a single person can't do it all even if they become supreme might end up being Allison realising she doesn't need to lose her poo poo and become superpowered over this because Maya's dealing with it and it's better to become someone who has Maya on their side than to go AAAAAAARGH yourself. E: mixed up Maya and Meti's names. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Bussamove posted:All arcs are complete. Now we watch nebulously-defined important men fight apparently. I think aside from incubus the men blew up
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Nov 20, 2021 06:23
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honestly i feel like incubus is 100% correct about how he assesses power and its relations. like he's an absolute fucker but allison never, ever should have started on this path if she wasn't going to be able to complete subsume herself into violence. incubus has one single desire that he has dedicated himself to: no matter what happens, he's going to survive. if you decide to solve your problems with swords, this is always how poo poo is going to end. meti's most important lesson is that solving your problem with swords is the dumbest loving thing you could ever do, and no one ever learns that lesson. Hell, meti herself didn't learn it! catgirlgenius posted:Cio's goal was always to become the sort of person who would get offed like this. actually, cio's goal was to completely be done with this sort of lifestyle because she actually understood bathing in violence and suffering really loving sucks unless you are an absolute fucker. and she got pulled back into it because she cared about allison, who thought that violence was tolerable. this death completely vindicates cio's entire arc, and I hope that it sticks for that reason.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:29
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MikeJF posted:The Lesson that Zoss tried to impart about how a single person can't do it all even if they become supreme might end up being Allison realising she doesn't need to lose her poo poo and become superpowered over this because Meti's dealing with it and it's better to become someone who has Meti on their side than to go AAAAAAARGH yourself. Maya, not Meti Meti was Maya and Incubus' teacher.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:31
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Mr. Lobe posted:I think aside from incubus the men blew up Look I don’t make the rules, the person with hilariously bad takes on the comic does. Now wheel in the next batch of important men.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:35
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Bussamove posted:Look I don’t make the rules, the person with hilariously bad takes on the comic does. Hallelujah it's raining important men
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Nov 20, 2021 06:41
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Nov 20, 2021 06:48
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paranoid randroid posted:i just hope nyave gets treatment for that head wound promptly VG for sure knows at least basic first aid, she’ll be fine.
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Nov 20, 2021 06:58
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when I think of the web comic kill six billion demons all the male characters are the first thing I think of
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Nov 20, 2021 07:41
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Rhaka posted:So basically, Jags' massive super attack only confirmed kill is a single large horse. An old one. It killed a lot of people on the surface of Dave's planet. Jadis is also extremely ghost-like so maybe the attack shattered her and her prison, but Jadis pulled a Zoss and just didn't care that she died.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:54
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Those aren't confirmed kills though. Gotta be in panel.
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Nov 20, 2021 07:59
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Genre conventions indicate she probably isn't but I hope the ice lady is nice. Looking at the wheel did a lot to chill out Aesma, if nothing else
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Nov 20, 2021 08:01
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Bussamove posted:VG for sure knows at least basic first aid, she’ll be fine. Nyave is also the fantasy foreign world equivalent of an MD./Ph.D so she can probably take care of herself, as long as she can give someone instructions
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Nov 20, 2021 08:02
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So back on the subject of violence, I just noticed that Cio jumped right to it there no hesitation.
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Nov 20, 2021 08:05
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All the Important Men are incredibly unhappy and impotent despite their power Talk about missing the point lmao
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Nov 20, 2021 08:09
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A big flaming stink posted:honestly i feel like incubus is 100% correct about how he assesses power and its relations. like he's an absolute fucker but allison never, ever should have started on this path if she wasn't going to be able to complete subsume herself into violence. incubus has one single desire that he has dedicated himself to: no matter what happens, he's going to survive. Incubus is just wrong in the text. White chain beat sol Dave where Allison probably couldn’t have. Certainly cio, white chain, and Allison were able to do more together than they could have alone by trusting each other. His pathetic little power level rant is justifying a fight he can’t win because if he admits that he can’t win he has nothing.
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Guildenstern Mother posted:So back on the subject of violence, I just noticed that Cio jumped right to it there no hesitation. If you want the mouse to live...
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Rhaka posted:So basically, Jags' massive super attack only confirmed kill is a single large horse. An old one. You know, flipping back to that page, I think it actually works if you just ignore the expository text entirely. "Be they man or immortal, all will be cut and slain instantly" is a manifestly untrue statement even on that page itself, and it only gets less true over the following pages. But the art itself doesn't have that implication, it just shows this devastatingly powerful attack, which leaves room for people to get their dramatic final scenes in.
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Nov 20, 2021 08:20
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Still laughing at Garbageboy Stinkman getting all indignant about being called gutter trash then immediately flipping around and calling Allison trash. His entire MO is pulling others down so he looks better and this entire speech has been him basically negging Allison so she'll give him the key.
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Nov 20, 2021 08:26
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Joe Slowboat posted:Maya, not Meti Yeah, I had a brainfart. Bussamove posted:VG for sure knows at least basic first aid, she’ll be fine. If we end up seeing the start of the War for Rayuba in the comic my guess is we'll see VG, Nyave and Zaid hook up with White Chain at the temple when the comic resumes. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Nov 20, 2021 08:29
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akulanization posted:Incubus is just wrong in the text. White chain beat sol Dave where Allison probably couldn’t have. Certainly cio, white chain, and Allison were able to do more together than they could have alone by trusting each other. His pathetic little power level rant is justifying a fight he can’t win because if he admits that he can’t win he has nothing. disagree, i think the text endorses incubus's position in an extremely basic way: if you want to be the lord of violence, incubus's single minded focus is the ideal path to follow. however the text also says that being the lord of violence sucks unfathomable amounts of balls, so why the gently caress would you want to do that in the first place (though to be fair incubus himself has had plenty of experience merely being at the mercy of violence, so even though he's dead wrong its kind of hard to argue against the conclusion his life has brought him to)
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Nov 20, 2021 08:52
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basically i see incubus as a rather pointed criticism about the romanticization of heroic violence. there isnt a mastery of technique that turns it into artful brilliance, there's no one weird trick this time to dispense violence in a just and morally good way. no matter what, it all begins with and ends with starving people desperately scrabbling for even one morsel to eat.
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Nov 20, 2021 08:56
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holy poo poo lol This is amazing. I'm sure we'll see Cio again, her girlfriend has the powers of all creation even if she doesn't yet know how it works. Maya's back doing exactly what I hoped she'd do. And Jadis is creepier than I could have possibly imagined, absolutely perfect
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Well, at least we know what the part everyone hates is!
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Nov 20, 2021 09:06
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Please remind me, what happens when a devil dies in this universe?
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:You know, flipping back to that page, I think it actually works if you just ignore the expository text entirely. "Be they man or immortal, all will be cut and slain instantly" is a manifestly untrue statement even on that page itself, and it only gets less true over the following pages. But the art itself doesn't have that implication, it just shows this devastatingly powerful attack, which leaves room for people to get their dramatic final scenes in. are you saying someone would do that? exist in k6bd's universe and tell lies?
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Hey, it's not like the comic has an example of a living, unmasked deevil that plays entirely outside the rules of reality everyone else is governed by, and who was last in the comic saying things like "Only -- remember ME when the throne is offered to you, Allison. Spare a thought for the poor Devil." right before discussing how Cio will die, and whose plotline hasn't resolved in any way yet.
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Nov 20, 2021 09:38
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Wasn't pre entombed Jadis the strongest... Wonder how she is post entombmebt now
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Twibbit posted:Wasn't pre entombed Jadis the strongest... Wonder how she is post entombmebt now Stiff.
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Nov 20, 2021 10:58
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That smile has me leaning towards the previous "jadis's 'foresight' was previous turns of the wheel and she didn't foresee this with Allison" theories.
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Speaking of Incubus, does anybody have a source for where Abbadon/Operant first described him as a "Curdled Hero", or undergoing a "Curdled Hero's Journey"? I've been looking around and I can't actually seem to find any mention of it whatsoever outside this thread, starting in 2019.
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Angry Lobster posted:Please remind me, what happens when a devil dies in this universe? I think all we know is that they return to the Black Flame and lose any sense of individuality since that's all tied up in the mask. As seen with Yabalchoath -> Cio, resealing Black Flame into a repaired mask returns a devil to life, but not as the same person entirely.
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Nov 20, 2021 11:57
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I want to see Cio's mask repaired with gold, Kintsugi style
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Nov 20, 2021 11:58
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reignonyourparade posted:That smile has me leaning towards the previous "jadis's 'foresight' was previous turns of the wheel and she didn't foresee this with Allison" theories. that or she’s going “hooray, it’s this part”
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Maybe she just immediately regretted cubing herself and is chuffed to be out of her eternal prison.
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Hellbore posted:I think all we know is that they return to the Black Flame and lose any sense of individuality since that's all tied up in the mask. As seen with Yabalchoath -> Cio, resealing Black Flame into a repaired mask returns a devil to life, but not as the same person entirely. Yeah, I think the basic idea that on some level each Devil is the Black Flame itself pretending to be/fooling itself into being a distinct individual, a bit like how Yisun's creative process is based on the lie of division. The mask is a device invented by hu;mans to facilitate this process. Himself is a special case because his ego is strong enough that he can just will his own existence into being while remaining connected to the Black Flame. When a Devil is killed but then is summoned back through the same mask, it's the same personality but not really the same "soul" - something like a science fiction scenario where a teleporter creates an exact copy of you. YaketySass fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Nov 20, 2021 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:Genre conventions indicate she probably isn't but I hope the ice lady is nice. Looking at the wheel did a lot to chill out Aesma, if nothing else Feel like much more important than "genre conventions" is "everything the author has said about the demiurges ever" She's not going to be very nice
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Wow, Incubus trying to take the key and Maya stepping in to protect her is exactly what I expected to happen at some point soon and if I wanted any credit for my foresight I should have called it with every once of my might.
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Like most of the demiurges Jadis will be perfectly nice until something doesn’t fit her strict interpretation of how things are/should be at which point the mask will fall away and we’ll see the sort of person that manages to carve out a bloody seventh of creation as their personal playground. See also: The recent Incubus/Allison interactions compared to him trying to groom her to (poorly) rule earlier in the comic.
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