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b_d posted:ok that makes sense. the first panel is still confusing then. is it before he became a ghost. or are they hanging out in some kind of meta bar where video game characters hang out even if they're ghosts. you know, to help you out in the future, long-running comics often have this weird thing where your best chance to understand them is to go back to the first strip and read all of them in sequence as fast as possible you should do that, that'll probably clear up any confusion!
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New Theory: Falco is of the Rito people and the technology and events shown in the Starfox games exists in an ancient Hyrule timeline.
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Nov 21, 2021 21:08
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Twelve by Pies posted:Actual effort post, because I guess why not. The idea is, there's a kingdom, and when everything is in balance everyone is happy. But sometimes, people abuse the kingdom's power, and this is what turns it from a golden land into a dark world. So you get points in hyrule's history where it rules with grace and wisdom, and you also get the parts where they build an underground torture chamber with a giant swinging schythe. So usually, the guy who Ganondorf is is just someone within the kingdom who wants more power. In this one, there isn't that. The kingdom is accumulating a huge amount of power. It came from...within
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Nov 21, 2021 21:28
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Ganon is Pinochet duh.
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Nov 21, 2021 21:29
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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe go on E-Shop sale one time please god ever just one time.
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Nov 21, 2021 21:36
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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Hylians using the old ancient robot tech specifically as a defense against the Calamity Ganon? Like they weren't just accumulating that power for no reason, they were trying to use it to fight Ganon's minions, and Zelda was into that because she was curious and into science and ancient Sheikah tech.
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Nov 21, 2021 21:42
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Libluini posted:you know, to help you out in the future, long-running comics often have this weird thing where your best chance to understand them is to go back to the first strip and read all of them in sequence as fast as possible i ilke asking stuff
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Nov 21, 2021 21:54
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cum jabbar posted:Bought Xenoblade 1 today. It looks and feels so much better than the Wii version The quality of life stuff is bonkers. Better pathing for quests and exact markers for the blue-dot items you need is an absolute game changer.
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Nov 21, 2021 22:03
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b_d posted:ok that makes sense. the first panel is still confusing then. is it before he became a ghost. or are they hanging out in some kind of meta bar where video game characters hang out even if they're ghosts. They're just in a bar out drinking together. The comic takes place in a world where video game characters hang out. The other guy is the captain or whatever. There are a lot of comics that make jokes about video game memes. For instance there's one where Sten from Dragon Age gets mad at everyone memeing to him about cookies. It's a fairly innofensive comic.
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FunkyAl posted:The idea is, there's a kingdom, and when everything is in balance everyone is happy. But sometimes, people abuse the kingdom's power, and this is what turns it from a golden land into a dark world. Uh, no, Ganondorf's wish to rule the world turned it from the Golden Land into the Dark World. Ganondorf was not a member of the royal family. He was a thief. OoT turned him into a Gerudo, which was a tribe of people who were not affiliated with the royal family and lived in the desert, who pretended to submit to the king of Hyrule in order to steal the Triforce for himself. Zelda didn't trust him, but her father didn't believe her, so she sent Link to get the spiritual stones to try and stop Ganondorf. None of this comes from "abusing the kingdom's power," because the Triforce doesn't actually belong to the Hyrule royal family, although they do come into possession of it occasionally like the Great King mentioned in Zelda II. FunkyAl posted:So usually, the guy who Ganondorf is is just someone within the kingdom who wants more power. In this one, there isn't that. The kingdom is accumulating a huge amount of power. It came from...within No on both counts. Ganondorf is never anyone but himself, notably Ganondorf is the only one who stays the exact same character throughout the entire series. You seem to have confused the fact that Agahnim is an avatar of Ganon with him becoming a different person, which isn't the case (in the games at least; in the manga Agahnim is a priest who becomes corrupted by Ganon's power, though he still isn't Ganon himself). The magician who puts Zelda into an eternal sleep and manipulates the prince of Hyrule in Zelda II isn't Ganon either; Ganon is completely dead and Link's blood is needed to revive Ganon. Calamity Ganon didn't come from within the Hyrule royal family, he had lost his form over the countless centuries of trying to kill Link and Zelda and had turned into a being of pure malice, which infected the robots. Harrow posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the Hylians using the old ancient robot tech specifically as a defense against the Calamity Ganon? Like they weren't just accumulating that power for no reason, they were trying to use it to fight Ganon's minions, and Zelda was into that because she was curious and into science and ancient Sheikah tech. Correct, King Rhoam ordered the excavation of the Guardians and the Divine Beasts to use to fight against Ganon, and then Ganon hosed up those plans by using his malice to possess them and turn them against Hyrule. There could be a message there too about "The things you think are protecting you may end up hurting you in the end," but given that everything turned out okay in the alternate timeline where Zelda got the sealing magic and they were able to stop the Calamity despite Ganon possessing the robots, it's still the fault of King Rhoam stressing out Zelda that screwed up everything.
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'Dorf in Wind Waker was so good. Felt a bit sad for him when you slotted the sword into his brain.
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Yeah, Wind Waker giving him a kind of sympathetic motivation rather than the cartoon villain "I WANT TO RULE THE WORLD BECAUSE I AM EVIL" motivation was nice. And then Skyward Sword retconned that by going "Nope actually he's just 100% evil and you shouldn't feel bad for him in any way." Yet another reason why Skyward Sword is garbage.
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Zelda chat is great because it always lands on ‘wind waker is the best one’ which is true.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:New Theory: Falco is of the Rito people and the technology and events shown in the Starfox games exists in an ancient Hyrule timeline. That much is clear. It's a clear chain of evolution from Loftwing to Rito to Falco. It used to be thought that Rito evolved from Zora, but that's been thoroughly disproven by now
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Nov 21, 2021 23:36
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anatomi posted:'Dorf in Wind Waker was so good. Felt a bit sad for him when you slotted the sword into his brain. I loved this ending so much. Ganon sort of monologuing AFTER he got the sword in the head was 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I loved this ending so much. Ganon sort of monologuing AFTER he got the sword in the head was Ganondorf just has a dying line about the wind and then immediately becomes stone. I dunno if that counts as a monologue.
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Nov 21, 2021 23:44
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Do any of you zelda fans out there know if Ganondorf's turds became stone along with him or were his turds preserved, fully intact but incased in stone? Ah but maybe he went to the bathroom before he did battle. Very wise.
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Nov 21, 2021 23:55
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Plant MONSTER. posted:Do any of you zelda fans out there know if Ganondorf's turds became stone along with him or were his turds preserved, fully intact but incased in stone? Ganonically, he doesn't poop.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:Ganonically, he doesn't poop. the hyrule historia books are semi-canon at best so that whole page about the zeldaverses toilet habit doesn't really fly here. Is there an explicit mention of this in the games anywhere?
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I don't have a formal education in video games but Zelda seems to me like an aesthetic palette rather than a big story
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Gannon is a clone of Ganon, only bigger
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CPColin posted:Gannon is a clone of Ganon, only bigger
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Just Andi Now posted:Ganondorf just has a dying line about the wind and then immediately becomes stone. I dunno if that counts as a monologue. Ah right, I misremembered.
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Silver Falcon posted:It's a fairly innofensive comic. uh yeah? i'm not trying to cancel it or something.
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I'd be scared to go to the bathroom in a Zelda world, a creepy hand might reach out of the toilet.
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Martman posted:I'd be scared to go to the bathroom in a Zelda world, a creepy hand might reach out of the toilet. That's zora's domain, baby.
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Martman posted:I'd be scared to go to the bathroom in a Zelda world, a creepy hand might reach out of the toilet. Sounds like a premium feature
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Port the remastered Wind Waker Nintendo, you fucks
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Port the remastered Wind Waker Nintendo, you fucks hehe... PORT... the boat game 
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Bleck posted:The other guy in the first panel is The Commander, the main character of that particular comic, who is out drinking with Ganondorf Oh. I thought it was Simon Belmont https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_J38gbSnA
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Martman posted:I'd be scared to go to the bathroom in a Zelda world, a creepy hand might reach out of the toilet. it's called a bidet
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KOTOR is hilariously simple by modern standards but still quite good. This is a good port. I love how dumb and basic the alignment system is. "You saved my life! I don't have much but I'd like you to have this!" - I can't take anything of yours. In fact take 500 credits (light side) - Thank you very much. Stay safe. (Neutral) - This isn't nearly enough! I'll kill you myself!!!!! (Dark side)
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Holy incontinent making GBS threads jesus christ is the water temple bad. Like, I recalled from when I first played it that there was some tedious finagling here and there but WOW, my memory must have been covering up some severe (video game) trauma. What the fuuuuuuuuuck is this bullshit? In the granddaddy list of all temples, you have: 1. Forest Temple 2. Goldeneye temple 3. Temple level from Spelunky ... ... ... 2704. Water Temple How hard is it to make something water based that doesn't involve changing the goddamned water level and/or requiring my goddamned iron boots every 30 loving seconds? Fighting my evil self was a joy compared to playing the most hosed up version of "Float or Sink: You're an rear end in a top hat and Everything Sucks" edition. 
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flavor.flv posted:Oh. I thought it was Simon Belmont John Wick of Dogs posted:KOTOR is hilariously simple by modern standards but still quite good. This is a good port. Rupert Buttermilk posted:Holy incontinent making GBS threads jesus christ is the water temple bad.
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b_d posted:uh yeah? i'm not trying to cancel it or something. the author is cool and the art is nice, as far as video game webcomics go it's pretty good!
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Is there a way to set up an alert when the 64 controllers go on sale again? I thought putting them on the wishlist would send me an email or something but I didn't get one when they opened the second round of orders
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Twelve by Pies posted:Calamity Ganon didn't come from within the Hyrule royal family, he had lost his form over the countless centuries of trying to kill Link and Zelda and had turned into a being of pure malice, which infected the robots. To be fair, Hyrule being destroyed through the hubris of returning to its Drone Warfare sins of the past which come back to haunt it, or the Calamity being unintentionally manifested through Rhoam's failure to understand and coach his daughter, would both have been more interesting premises than "Calamity Ganon also coincidentally happened alongside these events". Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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Tender Bender posted:To be fair, Hyrule being destroyed through the hubris of returning to its Drone Warfare sins of the past which come back to haunt it, or the Calamity being unintentionally manifested through Rhoam's failure to understand and coach his daughter, would both have been more interesting premises than "Calamity Ganon also coincidentally happened alongside these events". I don't see how the interpretation caused such a big derail, it seems pretty harmless?
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Tender Bender posted:To be fair, Hyrule being destroyed through the hubris of returning to its Drone Warfare sins of the past which come back to haunt it, or the Calamity being unintentionally manifested through Rhoam's failure to understand and coach his daughter, would both have been more interesting premises than "Calamity Ganon also coincidentally happened alongside these events". Oh absolutely. And Zelda being really cool and fighting alongside Link or even just taking matters into her own hands and fighting Ganon herself would also be more interesting than the usual Zelda fare. But Zelda is what it is, and if you're looking for anything more complicated than "Immortal pig man constantly tries to take over the world and mess with the descendants of those meddling kids" you're mostly playing the wrong game series. It should be noted that the Zelda games that don't follow that premise, like Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask and Minish Cap are actually the best games in the series.
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Commander Keene posted:
I'm assuming you still have the need to change the water levels, ergo thanks I (still would) hate it. Easily equipping the boots would definitely help, though.
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