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OK baizuo posted:It's a good thing. The best chance to radicalize libs to the left comes from their party being locked out of power, because that's the only way to get them to see the entire Anerican system as the problem and not just those mean ol Republicans Yeah I was thinking this was one of the major failings of the new left, they refused for the most part to get to the conclusion that America cannot be reformed, and the existence of the US government on this earth is the problem. These demon freaks will never stop.
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ELTON JOHN posted:no it's literally stuff like refugee/asylum seeker reception and integration programs getting gutted and people getting thrown onto the street or into the camps How many people has Biden had deported?
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ELTON JOHN posted:you go and tell that to beneficies in an integration program who suddenly dont have any support loving hostage rhetoric seems to be the best dems can offer "vote for us or the republicans will shoot the hostage! oh, our plan? we're just gonna slowly starve the hostage while saying that we really truly care about the hostage. don't forget to vote for us next time or the hostage will be shot!"
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CaptainACAB posted:Lmao the demonrats are such loving nerds Correct. It’s why they must be destroyed. WampaLord posted:loving hostage rhetoric seems to be the best dems can offer
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OK baizuo posted:It's a good thing. The best chance to radicalize libs to the left comes from their party being locked out of power, because that's the only way to get them to see the entire American system as the problem and not just those mean ol Republicans what when they're out of power that just means they have to vote harder next time
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Crowsbeak posted:How many people has Biden had deported? a lot
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WampaLord posted:loving hostage rhetoric seems to be the best dems can offer ok well just be aware that when republicans win, refugee and asylum seeker reception and integration programs can get gutted. so maybe don't celebrate it if you care about refugees and asylum seekers of course also dont celebrate when dems win basically never celebrate election results
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ELTON JOHN posted:ok well just be aware that when republicans win, refugee and asylum seeker reception and integration programs can get gutted. so maybe don't celebrate it if you care about refugees and asylum seekers "the republicans will do the same evil we are doing, but WORSE and FASTER" is not a rallying cry that will make people love democrats
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WampaLord posted:"the republicans will do the same evil we are doing, but WORSE and FASTER" is not a rallying cry that will make people love democrats right
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ELTON JOHN posted:ok well just be aware that when republicans win, refugee and asylum seeker reception and integration programs can get gutted. so maybe don't celebrate it if you care about refugees and asylum seekers If the democrats cared about these people at all maybe they should try harder to not get destroyed in 2022? lmao that's not my problem
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*very obama voice* if i was being gerrymandered so my vote didn't matter i'd just vote harder but you young people want to play your xbox and your iphone
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the bitcoin of weed posted:If the democrats cared about these people at all maybe they should try harder to not get destroyed in 2022? lmao that's not my problem the democrats do not care about those people
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like drat i didnt even say to vote. i just said dont celebrate election results because theyre always terrible
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CaptainACAB posted:Yeah I was thinking this was one of the major failings of the new left, they refused for the most part to get to the conclusion that America cannot be reformed, and the existence of the US government on this earth is the problem. These demon freaks will never stop. Libs can't be radicalized until their faith in American institutions is broken. Like, whenever this line of discussion comes up I'm reminded of that video from the cool zone days, can't remember exactly when or where it was from. But there was a big crowd of people protesting, and someone started burning a flag. The crowd responded by booing. Looting, blocking highways, burning buildings is cool and good but lmao that burning a flag got the crowd all upset. Americans really are the most ideologically cucked and heavily propagandized people on the planet, things are going to have to get a lot worse before that breaks. What's it gonna take to get the masses to really hate this demon cracker nation founded by tax dodging slavers? 
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ELTON JOHN posted:like drat i didnt even say to vote. i just said dont celebrate election results because theyre always terrible you're telling c-spam to not laugh as things get worse that's the main point of this place
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ELTON JOHN posted:like drat i didnt even say to vote. i just said dont celebrate election results because theyre always terrible it’s cool dawg we all know what unchecked republican rule means, we’re not lusting for it and the suffering it portends we’re laffing at its historical inevitability and the inability of the libs to see it coming.
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vyelkin posted:Yeah it's pretty eye-opening to look at how these states have transformed in the last 20 years. it’s not a coincidence that MN and IL, the two Midwestern states who were not as badly hit by M&As decimating a lot of corporations based there/airline mergers reducing service to city airports, are the two states that did not go red (to wit: 20 years ago CVG was a Delta hub, STL had TWA, MKE and KCI had Midwest Express, and CLE had Continental. all are gone now, and the youth there dream of moving to Denver or Philadelphia.)
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WampaLord posted:you're telling c-spam to not laugh as things get worse laughing is cool but dont be happy never be happy
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vyelkin posted:Yeah it's pretty eye-opening to look at how these states have transformed in the last 20 years. It's an inevitable result of the coalitions realigning. Team Blue's shift to being at their core a party of the urban and the educated seems to suggest inevitable decline in the Midwest.
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vyelkin posted:Yeah it's pretty eye-opening to look at how these states have transformed in the last 20 years. well yes but blue texas will make up for that
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OK baizuo posted:Libs can't be radicalized
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yeah OK baizuo I think you need to rewatch that Picard clip on liberals
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I can't wait for Comrade Chris Hedges to be right on the endgame for the corrupt US political system.
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Counterpoint: I voted for Hillary in '16
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Troy Queef posted:it’s not a coincidence that MN and IL, the two Midwestern states who were not as badly hit by M&As decimating a lot of corporations based there/airline mergers reducing service to city airports, are the two states that did not go red Interesting, thanks for a material answer
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UP AND ADAM posted:I like when the democrat party loses
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UP AND ADAM posted:I like when the democrat party loses You must be a very happy person, then!
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etalian posted:I can't wait for Comrade Chris Hedges to be right on the endgame for the corrupt US political system. Chris Hedges talks are so depressing to listen to. You can tell from the tone of his voice alone that everything he is saying is true and nothing will be done to prevent it.
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BUSH 2112 posted:i'd honestly love to see anyone with any strategy at all unfuck Ohio. as far as i can see this state has been moved into the deep red column, it keeps getting dumber and dumber every day, and i'm glad i'm getting the gently caress out of here in a week. i never thought i'd live in any other state because i've been here my whole life, but now i really doubt that i'm ever coming back for any extended period of time I got nothing else to add, except the Strickland/Pepper ODP is 1000% controlled opposition.
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is pepsi ok posted:Chris Hedges talks are so depressing to listen to. You can tell from the tone of his voice alone that everything he is saying is true and nothing will be done to prevent it. Like he realized in advance back in 2016 how Bernie wasn't actually serious at getting in a no holds barred fight with the dem establishment.
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really queer Christmas posted:Interesting, thanks for a material answer yeah, living in one of the Midwestern cities hardest hit by deindustrialization/capital consolidation has given me an insight into how the politics has changed. there's always been a sense of alienation here but the Obama years, where the Dems shifted their focus to the Sun Belt/Colorado/Virginia and the business class decided that the only places in the Central Time Zone that counted were Chicago/Texas/the Twin Cities, really kicked it into high gear. it's why some of the most whacko GOP pols (Hawley, Greitens, Josh Mandel, Scott Walker) have come out of these cut-adrift places. and unfortunately like I said young people here want nothing more than to pay $2k+ to live in a 4-over-1 in Nashville or Denver or Austin or Atlanta, or maybe head to Pittsburgh/Philly if they still want the Rust Belt experience, rather than try and save the Lou or the Land or the Nati.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Isn't japan practically a one party state Yeah but I think mostly because the Japanese truly don’t give a gently caress about politics every poll there is like 25% LDP, 40% none of the above
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Yeah but I think mostly because the Japanese truly don’t give a gently caress about politics We truly are going to become like Japan lmao
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Uncle Wemus posted:Isn't japan practically a one party state Yeah, basically the back of organized labor / communist parties in Japan got broken many year ago by the government after they did too many direct actions. It also helped that most of grass roots movements could be repressed during the cold war in the name of stopping communist takeover scares.
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ELTON JOHN posted:you go and tell that to beneficies in an integration program who suddenly dont have any support You act like the dems are in favor of those programs. They aren't. There are two parties, both want the same thing but the GOP are twenty years ahead of the dems. They are both moving toward the same outcome, one is not opposition for the other. The GOP has a political project and thus are building the society they want while the dems have a grift and as such have to pretend the political system works to give themselves the air of legitimacy and it is in perpetuating that fiction that the dems normalize the actions of the vanguard GOP. You can always use the argument that voting for the dems is preferable because they're less bad than the GOP. That's true, they are, but they are not in opposition to it but merely behind it, and voting for them is a vote for the same thing only later because they don't believe in anything different. It's like getting to choose between stage 4 cancer and stage 1 cancer without having the choice to treat the cancer. If you have to pick one you'd rather it be stage 1 but without any kind of treatment it's obvious how this all ends. ClassActionFursuit has issued a correction as of 02:41 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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