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Mr. Fortitude posted:Get the Circle of 8 modpack and the Temple+ addon and you're good to go for a modern experience. *as modern as DnD3.0 can get
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I'm having too much fun with BGEE on the PC. Almost talked myself into picking up the Switch version right after wrapping up a session with the game on the PC. Will pick it up if it goes on sale in the next month, I think. The new console UI looks kind of cool, actually. Anyone here use it? Of course, all this would be moot if Valve would just ship the Deck already. Being able to play it fully modded on a portable console with touchpads to simulate mouse movement would be perfect. Touchpads for mouse and buttons for keys would be a good UI too, though it'd be cool if Beamdog would allow using the console UI on PC too.
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Nov 22, 2021 21:47
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If the console UI is anything like Pillars of Eternity or Planescape it's all radial based which works pretty well considering we have precious few buttons on a standard xbox/playstation controller and even fewer on a switch!
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Nov 22, 2021 21:50
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Mr. Prokosch posted:"You should pick toughness at level 1!" If you pick auto-level for the companions in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous literally every character takes toughness and some take "mythic toughness" Not as bad as the cleric taking armor proficiency though, or the caster taking melee attack feats.
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Nov 22, 2021 21:54
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The Shame Boy posted:If the console UI is anything like Pillars of Eternity or Planescape it's all radial based which works pretty well considering we have precious few buttons on a standard xbox/playstation controller and even fewer on a switch! Yeah, the left taskbar moves onto a radial menu. But they seem to have done a proximity based trigger system for chests/traps/world transitions, etc. And there're two control modes for the team. One where everyone follows the leader jrpg style and another for combat using a mouse like pointer. Can see some of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKbJXD4ilhU
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Nov 22, 2021 21:59
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Basic Chunnel posted:I know I've seen them around but if they're standard file format you can probably just spend an afternoon running them through Audacity with keyboard shortcuts. Hey Audacity worked out great. Thanks!
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Nov 22, 2021 23:50
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I've been thinking of how to make Shar-Teel useful in BGEE. She starts with two pips in two-weapon fighting, one pip in longsword, and one pip in dagger. idk she seems awful
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Nov 22, 2021 23:52
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Jay Rust posted:I've been thinking of how to make Shar-Teel useful in BGEE. She starts with two pips in two-weapon fighting, one pip in longsword, and one pip in dagger. idk she seems awful lower the difficulty? I'm pretty sure most of the NPCs in BG1 are pretty weirdly built if you get them at too high a level. The HP count specifically is really low, lower then it reasonably should be. I'd honestly use Shadowkeeper or whatever to reset them to 1 if you really want to use the sub-optimal ones.
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Nov 22, 2021 23:59
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If it's important you don't gently caress up learning a spell just drink a potion of genius beforehand ffs. The solution to the "problem" is already in the game.
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Nov 23, 2021 00:09
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pentyne posted:If you pick auto-level for the companions in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous literally every character takes toughness and some take "mythic toughness" To be fair, Toughness is greatly improved in Pathfinder and is a not bad pick on all characters. Like you want to take stuff that’s specifically better for your build first but it’s not a waste of a feat like it is in 3e.
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Nov 23, 2021 00:41
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I was asking the wrong question earlier: Branwen or Yeslick? The right answer seems to have been to replace Kagain with Yeslick. Yeslick with Bracers of Dex and DuHM is loving great - and that's before I get this Big-Fisted Belt thing to max his damage. Branwen made way for Jaheira, wanted to use the IWD Druid spells. So now the frontline is F/I, F/C, F/D, all boosted with whatever combat protections they have at hand. Fun times, though I do miss the dour Kagain. Speaking of IWD Druid spells. Having Jaheira cast Mold Touch is a dangerous affair, it managed to infect Yeslick. Seems like a tough spell to control friendly fire from.
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Ratios and Tendency posted:If it's important you don't gently caress up learning a spell just drink a potion of genius beforehand ffs. The solution to the "problem" is already in the game. 95/97 is not 100%
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Nov 23, 2021 01:15
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Mr. Prokosch posted:In Pathfinder like 3e you really need to plan out your character the whole way and then follow the plan with each level. The weird thing about all those choices is most are just flat worse than others, so you have remarkably few real choices instead of "make the correct choice or make a mistake" choices.
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Nov 23, 2021 01:58
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IIRC the intelligence potions stack so you could use two potions of genius at a time, or genius + mind focusing, if you truly need the 100%.
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Nov 23, 2021 11:31
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v1ld posted:I'm having too much fun with BGEE on the PC. Almost talked myself into picking up the Switch version right after wrapping up a session with the game on the PC. Will pick it up if it goes on sale in the next month, I think. As I mentioned above I’ve played through BG 1 and DS on the switch and think the UI works fine. It can be a bit fiddly when there are many things you can interact with but I didn’t feel like it bothered me that much.
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Nov 23, 2021 11:58
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For evil clerics, you can also feed Xzar a tome of understanding (there's one in the aboveground part of Durlag's Tower) and have a cleric who can use mage wands and scrolls. Plus Xzar is cool.
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Nov 23, 2021 13:37
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:For evil clerics, you can also feed Xzar a tome of understanding (there's one in the aboveground part of Durlag's Tower) and have a cleric who can use mage wands and scrolls. Plus Xzar is cool. Xzar is a mage though?
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Nov 23, 2021 13:55
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He's one point of wisdom shy of being able to dual-class.
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Nov 23, 2021 14:08
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:He's one point of wisdom shy of being able to dual-class. This is true but dualing out of Mage feels weird. I guess having a Cleric who can use wands, low level mage spells and cast from scrolls is kind of neat though, even if you would have to keep him out of armour to do the second two things.
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Nov 23, 2021 15:05
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I've never liked the difficulty levels in BG. Keep them for things like the overall damage percentages, but I think that things like 'Max HP at level up' and 'Spell Scribe Failure' should be tick boxes.
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Nov 23, 2021 17:21
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Max HP at level up is a tick box in EE. This is something PF:K does very well - gives you full control over difficulty via individual settings separate from the difficulty slider.
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Nov 23, 2021 18:01
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sebzilla posted:This is true but dualing out of Mage feels weird. I guess having a Cleric who can use wands, low level mage spells and cast from scrolls is kind of neat though, even if you would have to keep him out of armour to do the second two things. The example in the 2nd Ed players handbook has something like this. Someone dueling from a level 3 cleric to a fighter. Dual classing from the pnp version sounded like a huge loving mess and in the game is really only useful for specific combinations (outside of gimmicks).
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Nov 23, 2021 19:39
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pentyne posted:The example in the 2nd Ed players handbook has something like this. Someone dueling from a level 3 cleric to a fighter. Dual classing from the pnp version sounded like a huge loving mess and in the game is really only useful for specific combinations (outside of gimmicks). It was invented ad hoc by Ed Greenwood when something happened to a player where they couldn't effectively play as they're own class IIRC.
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Nov 23, 2021 19:42
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Skwirl posted:It was invented ad hoc by Ed Greenwood when something happened to a player where they couldn't effectively play as they're own class IIRC. Dual classing is in the 1e PHB, so it predates Ed. (Maybe you're thinking of a different prominent D&D designer, Gygax or Kuntz or something.)
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Nov 23, 2021 19:45
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Arivia posted:Dual classing is in the 1e PHB, so it predates Ed. (Maybe you're thinking of a different prominent D&D designer, Gygax or Kuntz or something.) Maybe? It might also just be an entirely apocryphal story.
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Nov 23, 2021 19:49
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I'm about to do a BG:EE Legacy of Bhaal run what are the hottest tips?
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Watch out for the Tarrasque in the oasis. E. Lmao this isnt even a relevant joke, what a misleading name for a difficulty zedprime fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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Haven’t done it but I’m told that it changes stuff in a way that simply makes summoner-casters more critical
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I'm about to do a BG:EE Legacy of Bhaal run what are the hottest tips? If your character is an arcane spellcaster: the monster HP increase makes Sleep completely useless but also applies to your familiar and thus halfway to you after it's summoned.
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Skwirl posted:Maybe? It might also just be an entirely apocryphal story. I've definitely heard it before. Mage lost his spell book mid adventure and asked if he could just start as a lvl 1 fighter or something. DM said "yes, but..." and a stupid mechanic was born.
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Yes but you can’t cast magic until you reach level 4 fighter at which point I will begrudgingly return your spellbook to you
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Still wondering what infravision is supposed to do
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Jay Rust posted:Still wondering what infravision is supposed to do it makes things more visible when you're in darkness outside. however, there's an on-by-default option called group infravision that applies it to your view as long as you have at least one character with infravision selected, and everyone's parties usually have at least one elf, so it's really vanishingly unlikely that you'll notice having it/not having it ever.
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Nov 23, 2021 22:21
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Gygax invented dual classing on the spot when his son permanently lost his spell book in an elemental plane or another. Gygax also said that if you use house rules, you're not REALLY playing D&D. In P&P infravision is crucial... and it's completely useless in BG.
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Nov 23, 2021 23:44
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The moment a “house rule” is in a printed and licensed ADnD product, it’s no longer a house rule.
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2e and 3e were still well within the shadow of 60s-70s wargaming. TSR and Wizards had a vested interest in maintaining The D&D with house rules qualifying it as something else (and implicated as lesser) because of the convention and RPGA scene where you can buy into the official experience and have refs when the DM introduces the Whizzard and his piss forest.
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1e is some of the worst technical writing I've ever seen. basically, players had to be apprenticed into the game in those days, and holy poo poo did everybody do things differently. one of the really interesting things I've seen develop is... professionalization? of a lot of the stuff involved in games. everything was a loving jumble back in the day. even 2e sucks if you're just trying to jump in and play.
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Suspicious posted:Gygax invented dual classing on the spot when his son permanently lost his spell book in an elemental plane or another. Gygax also said that if you use house rules, you're not REALLY playing D&D. If you have a better way to make enemies look kinda red I'd like to hear it 
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Empty Sandwich posted:1e is some of the worst technical writing I've ever seen. basically, players had to be apprenticed into the game in those days, and holy poo poo did everybody do things differently. Empty Sandwich posted:1e is some of the worst technical writing I've ever seen. basically, players had to be apprenticed into the game in those days, and holy poo poo did everybody do things differently. It’s likely because I grew up playing it in the late 80s and into the 90s, but I always enjoyed 2nd Edition. I still do. I can see how goofy and unintuitive it must be from the outside, but I started playing when I was 9 years old and it made sense to me, because it’s all I knew. So I’ve always enjoyed the rule systems in the Baldur’s Gate games. My first exposure to 3rd edition was when Neverwinter Nights came out.
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I always like speed modifiers from different weapon types and spell cast times, rerolling at the end of every round was kind of annoying but it made your choice of weapon mean a lot more than just a damage dice and getting your proficiency bonus.Rogues dual wielding daggers are always characterized as the "super fast" damage dealer but in more modern editions that doesn't really mean a whole lot outside of Rogue pumping their Dex to do more damage meaning they are also pumping their initiative bonus as well which means more than likely will always go first anyway. Sneak Attack being much simpler is the inverse of that though. The Shame Boy fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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