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Not sure when eaves did this. The first cancelled incarnation of Star Trek Online maybe? Someone did a render and it's funny how it shares so much with Discovery, with the ring and the bridge on the spine.   CainFortea posted:Also crossfires are only useful in a fire fight where cover and concealment exist. In space, there's no point to a crossfire and you want to keep hitting the same area anyway. Hitting a ship from many sides at once can stop you being able to divert power towards a single facing, though.
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MikeJF posted:Not sure when eaves did this. The first cancelled incarnation of Star Trek Online maybe? Someone did a render and it's funny how it shares so much with Discovery, with the ring and the bridge on the spine. Like, I actually like most of Eaves' ship designs, despite the rest of the internet hating them but that is just... oof. God, please, no. MikeJF posted:One of the ideas that they did play with for a short time was that like a fifth of the saucer on the left and right could separate out and become their own defiant-sized ship, both to carry away civilians and maybe just to drop off somewhere doing a long-term study on something. The Nebula stardrive looks legit badass. The cobra lip on the Galaxy stardrive to accommodate the curve of the saucer looks really doofy on the end of that elongated neck, but on the Nebula it actually works. The Sovereign's stardrive also looks pretty decent without the saucer, but the Enterprise-F, taking into account it's just a weird design in general that had to be smoothed out through a few re-designs on top of that, just looks odd without the saucer. You can tell that they came up with the saucer separation design LONG afterward.
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DaveKap posted:BTW Something I wanted to mention from the start of the new season... Discovery takes a massive dump when pooping out Book's ship: It looks like it's clipping through on one end.
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The USS Prometheus rules, but there are very tiny warp nacelles on the saucer section, one at the top and one at the bottom, and it just looks ridiculous
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MariusLecter posted:It looks like it's clipping through on one end. I saw that too, and I swear it actually is.
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Nov 23, 2021 07:07
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Those shadows in the shuttle bay are doing a lot of work in both directions to either disguise that the model is way too big to make it out cleanly, or merely throwing off the perspective of an already hard to parse geometrically ship so that it just LOOKS like it does, because your brain can't handle all the angles.
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Collision detection is a thing of the past by the 32nd century.
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Nov 23, 2021 07:14
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They should have had the main section of it come out of the shuttle bay with the 'wing' section trailing behind it and that it just zoops all back into place like it's spreading its wings to take flight once it's clear of Discovery's hull. That would have looked really cool.
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Are we not gonna talk about "programmabl mattur" shuttle with suspended in air engines coming to the logical conclusion of its existence - falling apart from a minor fender bender?
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Nov 23, 2021 08:37
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Also, wrt Book's ship being "docked" to DIS. It's programmable matter, make it melt into discovery's hull and unmelt at the moment of Book transporting onto it. THAT would look loving cool, be in line with the idea and make overall sense.
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Erulisse posted:Are we not gonna talk about "programmabl mattur" shuttle with suspended in air engines coming to the logical conclusion of its existence - falling apart from a minor fender bender? That actually kind of bugged me. We've been told that detached nacelles and whatnot are still somehow connected to the ship by far-future space magic. Why did Booker's little shuttle fall apart?
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MariusLecter posted:It looks like it's clipping through on one end. https://i.imgur.com/kCV4gJd.gifv Judging by where the "went through the airlock" glowy bits are and how quickly the far tip shows up in front of the engine... Yes. It's clipping.
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Nov 23, 2021 09:09
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DaveKap posted:Computer... enhance! A SHIP THAT CAN CHANGE SHAPE AT WILL
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DaveKap posted:Computer... enhance! lol flagshit show
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MikeJF posted:It was a huge mistake not to give the saucer a basic mini-warp drive, even if it can't go that fast. Seems like part of how they designed ships then, where in addition to trying to build cool future ship they were also big old nerds trying to build an internal consistency of how it all worked. I can imagine a page in the TNG Technical Manual where it goes on an aside about what would be needed to incorporate a warp drive into the saucer, eventually describing something the scale of the star drive section itself.
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DaveKap posted:Computer... enhance! Lol, I thought it was just a bit of the wing tip but it's much worse  . That's like a good quarter of the drat ship.
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MikeJF posted:That said, if you really want cool. Man, the Nebula is one of the coolest ships ever, this just confirms it
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I remember poring through the TNG technical manual when I was in middle school. Wish I still had a copy. 
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Josh Lyman posted:I remember poring through the TNG technical manual when I was in middle school. Wish I still had a copy. I lived and breathed that book. Looks like you can still find it on ebay though! It's not gone forever 
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Barry Foster posted:I lived and breathed that book.
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I actually found the TNG tech manual and another TNG guidebook in the used book section at my local Barnes & Noble, it was great They have a bunch of TOS guides and such too but that doesn't really interest me. Wonder if there's any actual rare gems in there though!
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My trek book of my teen years was the Star Trek Chronology. It was also kinda an episode guide. I also had the revised encyclopedia which included the final season of ds9.
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twistedmentat posted:My trek book of my teen years was the Star Trek Chronology. It was also kinda an episode guide. Josh Lyman posted:I remember poring through the TNG technical manual when I was in middle school. Wish I still had a copy. All of these plus Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, which I found in an used book store on a family trip. What a fun read.
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My dad had all the TOS manuals and blueprints then would add TNG ones every Christmas. The continuity of geek.
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Erulisse posted:lol flagshit show Need to work this into a thread title.
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We had the Star Trek Encyclopedia in my house, I think the one that came out pretty early in TNG since I don't recall if the Borg were heavily featured in it, or the Cardies. Still, that was my exposure to Star Trek and we didn't have cable so all I could do was read those books, listen to some "music from" orchestral albums (had lots of sci-fi music, not just Trek) and occasionally see one of the movies. My only other exposure before I was a teen and had friends that DID have cable and other Trek stuff was the Sega Genesis game Echoes from the Past. That game was hard as balls but it had its own encyclopedia in the game so even though I never beat it I still got to experience enough Trek to know it was something I like
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I have some random tech manual pages from an old 4chan download.
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I had all the official tech manuals and big books like the Worlds of the Federation and the Encyclopedia (both original and updated versions) I also had some of the unofficial stuff like the third party Ships of the Fleets books and some blueprints, some of which you can find at the Star Trek Blueprint Database (I don't know how files that is so am not linking) There are fan ebook continuations of the old fan ship guide books if you love reading that stuff like I do, fair warning some fan designs are ugly as sin lol
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Tars Tarkas posted:I had all the official tech manuals and big books like the Worlds of the Federation and the Encyclopedia (both original and updated versions) Oh, this takes me back.  I remember thumbing through these at the local Crown Books before they went under. Shame I never managed to
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I had (still have, I think) two versions of the ST Encyclopedia, one of which was sent to print just before DS9 season 2 finished shooting as the finale is listed as 'Dominion', which as a Sisters of Mercy fan obviously sounds much cooler than 'The Jem'Hadar'.
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lower decks made it so any time i see a gorn i just think GORN WEDDING?!
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Dunno who in here might care about this, but: https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1463540260948742150?s=20 Looks like it's rolling out on P+ in the countries that have it, and on the Pluto TV app in the countries that don't
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Cross-Section posted:Dunno who in here might care about this, but: Someone must've explained the concepts of piracy and convenience to them.
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Cross-Section posted:Dunno who in here might care about this, but: I guess it's better than nothing but lol at the thought of having to tune into to a streaming platform at a designated time to watch a show in tyool 2021 
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Magic Mango posted:I guess it's better than nothing but lol at the thought of having to tune into to a streaming platform at a designated time to watch a show in tyool 2021
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Once again this all could have been solved by not making the show a streaming exclusive just to try and inflate subscriber numbers for your lovely streaming service and just, I dunno, actually shown it on the real tv network that far more people have access to. Like just imagine a Star Trek show that actually got average CBS viewership numbers in tyool 2021.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
"...and now imagine all those people HAVE to subscribe to our service! Cha ching!" -some dipshit paramount suit probably
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DaveKap posted:BTW Something I wanted to mention from the start of the new season... Discovery takes a massive dump when pooping out Book's ship: So we've seen the scale of book's ship next to the cast members... where do they fit the massive inner dimension full of turbolifts we saw at the end of season 3? (easily one of the dumbest fuckin things I've ever seen on television in my 41 years)
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^^^ Edited out: the showers of sparks generated by the little ship's edges running furrows through the shuttlebay walls Discovery is actually a flying dimensional inversion that can easily carry ships larger than its external appearance also, the turbolift dimension is just tesseract space with turboshafts running through it (Kinda like the elevator dimension carrying all the existensial horrors in Cabin in the Woods; it'd be funny if someone could splice that Cabin scene with Discovery turbolift cuts) Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 24, 2021 |
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