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blue footed boobie posted:Is it just me or has the shine worn off Poch? Things didn’t go well in his last stretch at spurs, and he managed to lose a one horse race in Ligue 1 last year. Not exactly inspiring stuff. To my outside eyes Poch always seemed like the type who prefers developing his own group of players than dealing with big superstars, I'm not surprised he's not doing well with giant fully-formed egos like Neymar and Messi. Whether that makes him right for Man U is an open question, of course. He'd probably have the same problems with guys like Ronaldo and Pogba.
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Nov 22, 2021 15:17
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lol lmao
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vyelkin posted:
Yeah, but neither of them are going to be there much longer
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lol tarbrush posted:Yeah, but neither of them are going to be there much longer Ronaldo has a 2 year contract sadly
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They should give United legend Ed ‘Mr. potato’ Woodward the manager job till the end of the season imho
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Nov 22, 2021 16:08
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To be honest I've never really understood why so many man utd fans were desperate for Woodward to get fired or whatever. He's the Glazers' man and they would just replace him with someone just like him so it wouldn't make a difference.
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Nov 22, 2021 16:10
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Gonna bet everything on Steve Bruce being appointed as manager, and then invest the winnings into cabbage futures.
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Pochettino would be an excellent appointment for united, he improves players and would have them working hard and in a proper system. All reasons why he won't get the job through
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tbh I think Woodward was a shorthand for "not having a clear operating structure or long-term transfer strategy", rather than Suit Man Bad I don't actually give a poo poo whether he stays or goes as long as he sticks to signing important potato deals rather than trying to bring in Garrincha to play at left-back
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Nov 22, 2021 16:19
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Ed Woodward is going to be the new interim manager
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Nov 22, 2021 16:32
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Considering how much Rio (and other ex-United pundits?) went to bat for Bruce while he was Newcastle manager they deserve him being instated as Ole's successor. They all deserve one another.
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those spurs teams under poch were legitimately excellent and he seemed pretty competent. i dunno if he had a hand in signing alli and alderwireld and son and so on but regardless they built a world class team where once there was not one. i dunno wtf happened in paris
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I'm pretty sure his thing at PSG is that he just has various marquee players thrust upon him, except not in a Shakespearian way
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Nov 22, 2021 18:50
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Poch lost the league last year by 1 point, won two domestic cups and got PSG into the CL semifinals, and this year they're destroying the league as expected. It's not like he's been some abject failure.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:I'm pretty sure his thing at PSG is that he just has various marquee players thrust upon him, except not in a Shakespearian way I think both he and Tuchel are football nerds who find the whole PSG soap opera exhausting. Quite why Poch then wants to coach Ronaldo and Pogba at United I don't know, but I assume he'd get assurances they were fired into the sun at the earliest opportunity
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trem_two posted:Poch lost the league last year by 1 point, won two domestic cups and got PSG into the CL semifinals, and this year they're destroying the league as expected. It's not like he's been some abject failure. Incorrect, PSG has Juve brain about the CL.
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Pogba is almost certainly gone at the end of the year, if not before. It's somewhat annoying, as I'm pretty sure his style will absolutely suit Spanish football and he'll look like a golden god spraying 60-yard passes around against Grenada, but he gets crowded out of PL games far too often to justify an annual contract argument with Raiola.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:Pogba is almost certainly gone at the end of the year, if not before. It's hardly surprising, in absolutely no team has Pogba been a cornerstone of a midfield where he controls and dictates a game or provides any steel. He's a luxury third in a 3 man mid. It's no coincidence his best work at United has been out on the left side when Rashford was out.
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:It's hardly surprising, in absolutely no team has Pogba been a cornerstone of a midfield where he controls and dictates a game or provides any steel. He's a luxury third in a 3 man mid. It's no coincidence his best work at United has been out on the left side when Rashford was out. Eh, I'd say his best time was in front of Matic/Herrera but your point still stands.
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And he’s a prick
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TheRat posted:To be honest I've never really understood why so many man utd fans were desperate for Woodward to get fired or whatever. He's the Glazers' man and they would just replace him with someone just like him so it wouldn't make a difference. i think part of it is the sheer irritation about the guy who structured the glazer takeover being given a position of authority off the back of his financial trickery. it's bad enough that they've turned the club into a pure money-making business, but having woodward in this position really is just rubbing it in
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also yeah pogba can do completely stupid stuff if given a little bit of time and space, but those are at a very high premium in the contemporary premier league, especially if your name is paulie poggers and you have gigantic shins ready to be kicked
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Bape Culture posted:And he’s a prick And he's what?!?!?
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i hope pogba goes to juventus and then in about 1-2 years time united table a 100m bid for him
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tbp posted:i hope pogba goes to juventus and then in about 1-2 years time united table a 100m bid for him 
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all this talk of pogba not being good is crazy, he's a very talented player who doesn't want to work very hard but united are too dumb to build a midfield that can get the best out of their marquee signing
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Bogan Krkic posted:all this talk of pogba not being good is crazy, he's a very talented player who doesn't want to work very hard but united are too dumb to build a midfield that can get the best out of their marquee signing I think his key issue is that in any formation United play, the spot he wants is occupied by Fernandes and Fernandes is better than Pogba.
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I think Pogba is slightly better in deeper areas than Bruno, but you're absolutely right that you can't really play the two of them together
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tarbrush posted:I think his key issue is that in any formation United play, the spot he wants is occupied by Fernandes and Fernandes is better than Pogba. So they should sell him and move on - he's too expensive to use as cover for Fernandes.
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Andoman posted:So they should sell him and move on - he's too expensive to use as cover for Fernandes. He's on a free in the Summer, isn't he?
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Mickolution posted:He's on a free in the Summer, isn't he? ahahahaha it's true https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/paul-pogba-contract-update-united-22003206
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How is that a shock to anyone? The Pogba/Raiola contract circus has been exhausting for years now and has been spammed at very regular intervals.
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Isn't it pretty un-Raiola like to let his clients leave on free's as he doesn't get a cut of the next transfer sale...if that's even a thing.
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United losing their record signing on a free transfer, twice, is very funny
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Seems like man united are quite bad at this whole signing players thing
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CyberPingu posted:Isn't it pretty un-Raiola like to let his clients leave on free's as he doesn't get a cut of the next transfer sale...if that's even a thing. Oh dont you worry about his massive gently caress-off signon fee.
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the sex ghost posted:Seems like man united are quite bad at this whole signing players thing Also nobody make any jokes about any historical instances of this happening to my team because they're not funny, thanks
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Bogan Krkic posted:United losing their record signing on a free transfer, twice, is very funny it's a thing of beauty edit: i vouch that pogba should go down as the worst prem transfer of all time, and this is a large part of the reason why. £100m for 6 years of largely average performances, and twice letting him leave for no transfer fee. the mind boggles at the ineptitude displayed all round (and no i'm not signing my posts tyvm) an_mutt fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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