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Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
gently caress, I am. This poo poo is hilarious

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Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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It must be admitted: it’s not boring any more!

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
I am. I legit look forward to every single comic Mookie does, like I've said before. I find him and his insane work endlessly fascinating and I am always entertained, even if never in a way Mookie might have intended.
I know I said it before, but I mean it unironically: I hope Mookie never stops, and I legitimately look forward to each new nightmare he unleashes.

Heliotrope
Aug 17, 2007

You're fucking subhuman

Mors Rattus posted:

It must be admitted: it’s not boring any more!

Yeah at least we're getting something now as opposed to Mookie just spinning his wheels.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Porn may be his best route honestly. Sure it’ll still pale next to the likes of Oglaf but people might at least pay attention.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012
Urgh, I hate the 'Mookie draws REAL bodies' poo poo because,

1. Snout's body does not look real, and 2. Mookie otherwise draws (what he believes to be) conventionally attractive feminine-presenting cis women who are mostly hairless except for their trimmed bushes. I think Canada might have had like, peach fuzz pit hair, but none on her legs or arms for some reason.

It's 'Luna is ugly and I'm the bestest feminist in the world for having an ugly love interest for my self-insert, plz glomp me' all over again.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
He draws things that resemble bodies if you squint

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Maxwell Lord posted:

Porn may be his best route honestly. Sure it’ll still pale next to the likes of Oglaf but people might at least pay attention.

It's been very amusing to watching Dominic Deegan, one of the original big webcomics, delve into hardcore repulsive monster loving and get no reaction from anyone outside of this thread.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


TheHan posted:

It's been very amusing to watching Dominic Deegan, one of the original big webcomics, delve into hardcore repulsive monster loving and get no reaction from anyone outside of this thread.

there's always our posting comrades in the gitp thread


quote:

Six years had passed since the original run of Dominic Deegan, a webcomic in which Michael Terracciano, in art Mookie, wrote and drew the strongly anime-influenced adventures of Dominic Deegan, a mysanthropic Oracle who is smart, smug, deceptive, manipulative, always right and always good. Starting out as a rather minor, if undoubtedly capable, seer in a backwater village, Dominic was later called to greatness by the evolution of his family: his brothers, both revealed to be immensely powerful mages, one as a healer, the other as an evil necromancer; his father, a pink-wearing rockstar and swordman extraordinaire; and his mother, Miranda, an archmage recognised across multiple dimensions and the director of a school of magic whose power is best described as the fantasy equivalent of a carrier strike group (later, she will get another massive powerup).

Of course, being praeternaturally smart, Dominic gets to become a professor at his Mom's university. He also marries Luna, a suicide survivor shunned because of her fangs. As the comic scope gets wider and their social standing increases, both Luna and Dominic reveal themselves to be prophesied messiahs, respectively for saving the land of the Orcs and for stopping a recurrent transdimensional cataclysm.

The result of this power increase is a move from subtler plans towards blunt force, generating what has been known as Hulksiah, who will Smash Puny Sins (it also was an antecedent to Mookie's later Star Power, who, plotwise, is just a very strong, invulnerable girl that shoots laser beams).

These final years had some serious problems. However, the comic in general, while naive, is also charming, because it's hyper-personal. There is almost no filter between DD and its dreamy-eyed, overly enthusiastic author, Mookie; DD himself was born as an RP character of Mookie's. So we have these extremely idealised figures of family, love, and friendship, and all challenges ultimately are there to show that family, love, and friendship conquer all. We also have DD as an idealised teacher, a position in which being a know-it-all actually means being at the service of someone. Overall, through the comic, it's Mookie's various feelings that get their win.

Anyway, getting stronger and stronger, and faced by increasingly limited challenges, Dominic undergoes a series of comically exaggerated traumas and breakdowns. There was a strip in which Dominic reacted in horror to some porn he was provided with for a semen exam. Altered rear end, it was called -- its stars had been grotesquely modified by magic.

Alas, that's where we are now, reading Altered rear end. The Legacy of Dominic Deegan took its crude art style and, apparently, went for outright explicitly pornographic depictions of sexual acts between demihumans. The latest strip took pains to put aroused genitals in the center (and it's why I'm not adding a link). But it couldn't manage, for example, to show a face in correct perspective. The result is so disgusting, that I'll probably stop reading the comic. The Legacy never had an interesting plot or characters or dialogues. It has been an exercise in self-indulgence. And now it's a bridge too far.

Arguably.


quote:

Aren't you curious where this is going? What is possible? Yo need to embrace the cenobite mindset.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
"Aren't you curious where this is going? What is possible? You need to embrace the cenobite mindset."

drat, what have we become

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


we have such sights to show you

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
Thing is, where it's going has suddenly gotten much less mysterious.

Like I guess I wouldn't put it past Mookie to shift back to weeks of aimless peripatetic moping because inaccurately tracing porn turned out to be too much work or something. But in general once a webcomic starts being about the characters loving then it never stops being about the characters loving.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Are we gonna see full penetration?

Did Snout grow two dicks?

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Heliotrope posted:

Yeah at least we're getting something now as opposed to Mookie just spinning his wheels.

Plot-wise, it's spinning its wheels more than ever. This has less than ever to do with the Legacy of Dominic Deegan.

Billy Gnosis
May 18, 2006

Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things that we like and think are fun.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Plot-wise, it's spinning its wheels more than ever. This has less than ever to do with the Legacy of Dominic Deegan.

What if the legacy is just now nerds get laid not jocks? :ohdear:

Mutant Headcrab
May 14, 2007
Dominic Deegan's legacy was the gently caress-buddies we made along the way.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
idk, considering the hideous stupid poo poo that he used to throw into DD this really feels pretty on-brand

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


My guess is that first there's going to be some oral before the full penetration.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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The Legacy of Dominic Deegan is all of us gathered around this comic, waiting to see what it will do each week.

Mutant Headcrab
May 14, 2007

Mors Rattus posted:

The Legacy of Dominic Deegan is all of us gathered around this comic, waiting to see what it will do each week.

Like one of those ol' timey surgical theaters. We all speculate in whispered breath as we watch for what new terrors lay within the thing being dissected upon the table.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
The Legacy of Dominic Deegan is getting mad dome from a lady with dental issues.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Billy Gnosis posted:

He's going to cum in the shape of the astinograph

Snout being some sort of cum seer who predicts the future with his jizz sounds kind of hilarious but I'm pretty sure Oglaf already did that one too, and with much better art.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Mutant Headcrab posted:

Like one of those ol' timey surgical theaters. We all speculate in whispered breath as we watch for what new terrors lay within the thing being dissected upon the table.
"TIME ME, GENTLEMEN!" and then we all witness history's first 300% mortality surgery.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Mors Rattus posted:

The Legacy of Dominic Deegan is all of us gathered around this comic, waiting to see what it will do each week.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
I really love his blog post. I don't think he's capable of understanding that people objecting to this turn of events are grossed out by nudity or sex, but rather the really gross and rape-ish context this is happening in.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Snout being some sort of cum seer who predicts the future with his jizz sounds kind of hilarious but I'm pretty sure Oglaf already did that one too, and with much better art.
Would-be magicians have been trying to cast spells with their spunk for centuries, it's a thing.

ScienceSeagull
May 17, 2021

Figure 1 Smart birds.

SubG posted:

Would-be magicians have been trying to cast spells with their spunk for centuries, it's a thing.

That's one way that alchemists try to make homunculi (and there are apparently people trying it even today!).

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse

Zerilan posted:

I really love his blog post. I don't think he's capable of understanding that people objecting to this turn of events are grossed out by nudity or sex, but rather the really gross and rape-ish context this is happening in.

Considering how Snout has been portrayed up to this point; naïve, sheltered and largely sexless despite having two separate woman decide to snuggle naked with him with no prompting whatsoever. I wouldn't go so far as to cry "rape" but man, does this turn of events feel skeevy.

Thanks to whoever pointed out that this whole thing is even weirder when you realize Snout had more-or-less no reaction to, again, two separate women deciding to snuggle naked with him with no prompting whatsoever.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Snout had no reaction to the other two because they didnt meet his very specific criteria/fetishes

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
And bog lady wants him in her bussy because...???

ScienceSeagull
May 17, 2021

Figure 1 Smart birds.
He doesn't seem particularly shocked and surprised at sprouting antlers and weird floppy shoulder spikes during sex, either, and you'd think that would elicit some sort of reaction. Did he know this was going to happen?

Eight-Six
Oct 26, 2007

Happy Landfill posted:

Considering how Snout has been portrayed up to this point; naïve, sheltered and largely sexless despite having two separate woman decide to snuggle naked with him with no prompting whatsoever. I wouldn't go so far as to cry "rape" but man, does this turn of events feel skeevy.

Thanks to whoever pointed out that this whole thing is even weirder when you realize Snout had more-or-less no reaction to, again, two separate women deciding to snuggle naked with him with no prompting whatsoever.

There's a narrative thread you can trace if you're high regarding Snout being akin to a rapidly maturing person.

Starting out, Snout is actually close to mute, at least in comparison to these days. Takes a lot of orders, does learn to do one or two things. Has no concept of social mores regarding nudity at this time. He's got a toddler's brain or thereabouts.

He ages a bit when he learns that he needs to leave the Wild Edge, gaining doubts and losing a comfort zone. The next time he meets up with IW he's more aware/weird about nudity, although he gets over it right quick and has a real simple view on how this relationship really looks. He's a preteen around then.

Now? Body's undergoing changes, hormonal whiplash, and a forgetful disregard of why he was going to the chandak at that moment. He's now a moody teen.

Does any of this mean anything? Does past data indicate future performance, that soon Snout will abandon his childhood dream of DD's legacy and settle down, have some kids, a job he hates, and a marriage that will soon become open to the detriment of all involved? gently caress if I know, I just wanted to mentally math out how it's possible for Snout to have his weird timeline of interpersonal reactions. i am no wiser for having done so.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


The context Mookie gives it obviously doesn't intend rape or sexual exploitation, but like with Starpower and her magic laser beams that don't kill anyone, I think asking how this would play out in "real life" matters. Snout literally talked about how he liked "this cuddling thing" with the ink witch previously. Everything point to him barely having had any physical contact at all for most of his life. This lady is also seemingly trying to isolate him from the only people he knows, and his primary caregives at this point, in this strange foreign land. This is a situation entirely composed of red flags to anyone who doesn't think Snout is a relatable protagonist. It's more or less exactly the scenario that happens to young boys with an older female abuser.

But this all relates back to Snout himself as a character, and Mookie's strange infantilization of him. Snout should be a sort of wildman ranger, who's lived his life on the land and is self-sufficient. Instead, he seems to have the emotional maturity of a toddler. There's just no way to portray this character having sex that doesn't feel wrong, because his portrayal is literally that of a child who lacks the experience to consent. Hell, it's not even clear if he was sexually attracted to women before this point!

I'm not even joking when I say oral next. We're just going to get a porn scene, Mookie's not even going to think about the fact that this is the awkward first time for Snout, and how his inexperience would play into things.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Billy Gnosis posted:

He's going to cum in the shape of the astinograph

dont rip off Oglaf like that lmao

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Beelzebufo posted:

The context Mookie gives it obviously doesn't intend rape or sexual exploitation, but like with Starpower and her magic laser beams that don't kill anyone, I think asking how this would play out in "real life" matters. Snout literally talked about how he liked "this cuddling thing" with the ink witch previously. Everything point to him barely having had any physical contact at all for most of his life. This lady is also seemingly trying to isolate him from the only people he knows, and his primary caregives at this point, in this strange foreign land. This is a situation entirely composed of red flags to anyone who doesn't think Snout is a relatable protagonist. It's more or less exactly the scenario that happens to young boys with an older female abuser.

But this all relates back to Snout himself as a character, and Mookie's strange infantilization of him. Snout should be a sort of wildman ranger, who's lived his life on the land and is self-sufficient. Instead, he seems to have the emotional maturity of a toddler. There's just no way to portray this character having sex that doesn't feel wrong, because his portrayal is literally that of a child who lacks the experience to consent. Hell, it's not even clear if he was sexually attracted to women before this point!

I'm not even joking when I say oral next. We're just going to get a porn scene, Mookie's not even going to think about the fact that this is the awkward first time for Snout, and how his inexperience would play into things.

Some of us joke about Snout just appeared fully formed in the world when the comic started, with no prior existence. But it's not even a joke, it's literally true. The only things he ever did that hint at any life he led previous to the comic are the house he built and the fact he frequents the open-air library. (And we don't even know he built the house, actually.)

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Beelzebufo posted:

I'm not even joking when I say oral next. We're just going to get a porn scene, Mookie's not even going to think about the fact that this is the awkward first time for Snout, and how his inexperience would play into things.

Ah, but you forget Mookie's favorite thing in the world: learning and growing as a person is always bad and evil. Good people are just naturally the best at whatever they want to do without any experience or learning necessary.

Snout is a good boy, therefore he's the best ever at sex and doesn't need experience.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Soft goodboys are the best at sex, even if they've never had it before. Ignore the fact that Mookie considers himself the softest goodest boy! It is unrelated!

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

A few strips before this one Snout was licking windows like an actual child would. This isn't something that well-developed adults do.

Now he's gonna be licking some gross swamp pussy.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Some of us joke about Snout just appeared fully formed in the world when the comic started, with no prior existence. But it's not even a joke, it's literally true. The only things he ever did that hint at any life he led previous to the comic are the house he built and the fact he frequents the open-air library. (And we don't even know he built the house, actually.)
It's not just Snout. All of Mookie's characters lack internality.

In classic Deegan this was (somewhat) mitigated by the fact that characters were "defined" by a mannerism or two and whatever it was the story demanded of them--by virtue of being the bad guy or the comic relief or whatever. But the story in Legacy is so vague and meandering that all of the characters are "defined" by poo poo like "that thing they did one time in a single scene" or whatever. Like Sunflower and Thelonious Whatshisname or Punchy McMullet or Mean Orc or Mean Orc's Henchman Who Gave Snout A Book Once. And so on. That's bad enough for background characters--like you can skate by like this, lots of stories do, but it makes the fictional world feel empty and flavourless--but it's absolute poison when it's also true of the principle cast.

Snout is the protagonist and he literally doesn't have anything going on that isn't narrated out for us in a way we're obviously meant to take completely at face value. Ink Witch has no motivations or backstory that doesn't intersect with Snout's "quest" in some way. Arudak is sad about his dead girlfriend and me writing that out just gave you literally everything the comic has said on the subject. And so on.

Real people experience real emotions in ways that are inflected by who they are and what their experiences mean to them. There's literally nothing of that in any of Legacy's characters, which makes all the characters come off as vaguely childlike, because they lack experience and context, and so everything happens in a perpetual now that's defined by their short-term attention span.

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Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Was it ever said in the comic that he built his own house or is that something mookie added in a blog post?


also hes going to get dick-leeches

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