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Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



look millions or billions of poor people in poor countries dying is very regrettable but luckily we first worlders in the USA will be completely fine from this

we make everything we need in the USA it will be fine. i dont know what neoliberalism is

i also dont know anything about geopolitics im sure thats fine who cares

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kater
Nov 16, 2010

lmao already knowing exactly how climate change will gently caress you because it’s always happened it’ll just be more frequent and severe. whoo can’t wait to sweep water out of the house not breathe freeze and burn. and that’s just life no one cares about it’s not including whatever disasters and societal collapse you wanna write a novel about.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

I keep remembering all the stupid poo poo about "year of the pulse" and giggling. screw you canadian agriculture elites

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Raine posted:

look millions or billions of poor people in poor countries dying is very regrettable but luckily we first worlders in the USA will be completely fine from this

we make everything we need in the USA it will be fine. i dont know what neoliberalism is

i also dont know anything about geopolitics im sure thats fine who cares

What I don't care about won't hurt me. It worked when my dad divorced my mom and it'll work when life divorces itself from this planet.

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
i know people who are still absolutely convinced that technology will solve climate change, that we'll just throw a lot of money at it when things inevitably get bad enough (i.e. when it becomes "cost-effective" to do so) and a solution will be invented, just like the covid vaccines

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
my money is prion disease from flood waters + factory farms

lets goooo

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i know people who are still absolutely convinced that technology will solve climate change, that we'll just throw a lot of money at it when things inevitably get bad enough (i.e. when it becomes "cost-effective" to do so) and a solution will be invented, just like the covid vaccines

ummm have you read about MIT's new fusion energy breakthroughs? along with carbon capture devices, we can consider this a solved problem

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i know people who are still absolutely convinced that technology will solve climate change, that we'll just throw a lot of money at it when things inevitably get bad enough (i.e. when it becomes "cost-effective" to do so) and a solution will be invented, just like the covid vaccines

this is what virtually everyone in the tech industry believes, thus no one in the tech industry is working on the problem

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




nyc is going to stop using brazillian hardwood in its boardwalks... they are going to use thousands of plastic planks on its beaches instead lol

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Sep 6, 2006

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500 good dogs posted:

this is what virtually everyone in the tech industry believes, thus no one in the tech industry is working on the problem

i was gonna say something like "95% of the tech industry is software, how the gently caress are they gonna do anything?" but then realized there's a good chance they think blockchains and "disruption" are the solution to climate change

maybe i'm the one who's insane for not just going along with that stuff and not pretending everything is fine

goochtit
Nov 2, 2021



Technology™ scales exponentially. The net that today fishes one plastic bottle at a time out of a river will tomorrow fish two bottles out of that river at a time, and the day after that four bottles at a time, and so forth. There is no reason for alarm if you understand the exponential function; our issues are solved problems.

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014

Chamale posted:

I hate to ruin the joke, but Canada's chickpea crop failed this year, with a 67% reduction compared to normal yields

whats the difference between a lentil and a chickpea

no difference they are both doomed lmao

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

i was gonna say something like "95% of the tech industry is software, how the gently caress are they gonna do anything?" but then realized there's a good chance they think blockchains and "disruption" are the solution to climate change

maybe i'm the one who's insane for not just going along with that stuff and not pretending everything is fine

look, you have to understand, everything's going to be solved the moment anyone cracks the physics console with a brilliant bit of computer hackery

we'll just type in

while(true)
{ pollution--;}

to the reality console and let a trillion terahertz eat the problem in a heartbeat

so when you think about it everything's gonna be just fine

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oh no it underflowed and everyone instantly suffocated gg

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i know people who are still absolutely convinced that technology will solve climate change, that we'll just throw a lot of money at it when things inevitably get bad enough (i.e. when it becomes "cost-effective" to do so) and a solution will be invented, just like the covid vaccines

And that solution will be war.

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

oh no it underflowed and everyone instantly suffocated gg

nobody could've seen it coming

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i know people who are still absolutely convinced that technology will solve climate change, that we'll just throw a lot of money at it when things inevitably get bad enough (i.e. when it becomes "cost-effective" to do so) and a solution will be invented, just like the covid vaccines

do they know that mRNA vaccines have like 40 years of solutions research behind them

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that's fine we got like a century before this climate thing becomes serious

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

that's fine we got like a century before this climate thing becomes serious

I have put a reminder in my Google calendar for 2121, "fix climate". I made sure to make it send an email notification the day before.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

that's fine we got like a century before this climate thing becomes serious

I say as I am escorted to the forced labour camp for climate refuges.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

that's fine we got like a century before this climate thing becomes serious

that’s why i live listening to fall of civilisations

it’s episode after episode of “community develops a highly sophisticated society, climate change/ disease, generations of descendants speak of fantastic monuments and living gods”

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Cup Runneth Over posted:

do they know that mRNA vaccines have like 40 years of solutions research behind them

And were shelved after it was determined that the OG SARS and MERS they'd been temporarily unshelved for weren't going to meaningfully do anything to the first world's economy.

Lostconfused posted:

I say as I am escorted to the forced labour camp for climate refuges.

That one's going to be worse than the forced labor camp for debtors.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Tabletops posted:

i get this is the black pilled climate thread, but extreme rain events are not what is going to kill you from gcc. in fact, if you live in the americas there is a good chance you'll live to old age (or not die from gcc fallout) or whatever 5g per day of plastic consumption age that is.

generally it's cool to be like, wow poo poo's gonna suck so much 30 years from now, but I mean realistically you'll be fine. it's gonna suck a lot for developing countries in africa, central asia, the mid east and the developed countries that border them.

basically really really poor people are going to die, not you

Did your Lexus dealer tell you it was immune to mudslides and building collapses and bring swept away in floods or

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Drought, fire and floods: Famously unknown in "the Americas"

munce
Oct 23, 2010

Canada news

https://twitter.com/ScottDuncanWX/status/1463565884828565520
"Some parts of British Columbia have not recovered from the disastrous floods earlier this month...
Unfortunately, multiple rounds of tropical moisture from atmospheric rivers are incoming - we are looking at one of the wettest Novembers in recorded history here."

and

https://twitter.com/climate_unit/status/1463147729283162120
"Extreme weather is hitting both coasts.
'1 in 100-year storm' could drop 350 mm of rain on southwestern Newfoundland | CBC News"

an egg
Nov 17, 2021

Marenghi posted:

A quick google indicates they are narrow streams of moisture in the upper atmosphere capable of carrying 15 times the volume of the Mississippi before they make rainfall.

Massive invisible rivers in the sky bigger than anything on land.
how beautiful

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow
wow three “1 in 100 years storms” hitting Canada in a week. what are the odds huh?

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
they should just dig a big hole to put the water in

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Popoto posted:

wow three “1 in 100 years storms” hitting Canada in a week. what are the odds huh?

Well one in 100 cubed, right? It's amazing.

an egg
Nov 17, 2021

Their property was beautiful, Elliott said. Seven-and-a-half acres on the valley floor and richer soil than much of the surrounding area.

They had thousands of fruit trees, about 100 blueberry bushes, and a 25-metre greenhouse “that was really hitting its stride,” he said.

Instead of a retirement plan, Elliott said he and his wife Erin were creating a sustainability plan that would support their family for a long time.

And then it was covered in thick mud and boulders.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Popoto posted:

wow three “1 in 100 years storms” hitting Canada in a week. what are the odds huh?

Gambler's fallacy :nono:

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


an egg posted:

Their property was beautiful, Elliott said. Seven-and-a-half acres on the valley floor and richer soil than much of the surrounding area.

They had thousands of fruit trees, about 100 blueberry bushes, and a 25-metre greenhouse “that was really hitting its stride,” he said.

Instead of a retirement plan, Elliott said he and his wife Erin were creating a sustainability plan that would support their family for a long time.

And then it was covered in thick mud and boulders.

lol loving owned

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go


i know it's all doom and floods and famine etc but



this seems so canadian :3:

american sites that block EU access are just like ACCESS FORBIDDEN gently caress YOU COMMIE

munce
Oct 23, 2010

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-rain-storm-wednesday-1.6260478
Storm washes away areas of Trans-Canada Highway in southwestern Newfoundland
Community of Port aux Basques cut off in both directions

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Popoto posted:

wow three “1 in 100 years storms” hitting Canada in a week. what are the odds huh?

no no no it doesn't work like that

it's one in one hundred years for any particular place

[is presented evidence that this is the Nth storm of that level in that place in five years]

look you have to understand it's just a model created for insurance purposes it doesn't indicate a trend statistical outliers happen

[is presented more evidence for other places]

look, statistical outlier years happen but really it's not going to be bad until past 2100 so it'll be

[is shown things happening decades ahead of predictions]

this means nothing shut up everything's fine lalalala

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Complications posted:

no no no it doesn't work like that

it's one in one hundred years for any particular place

[is presented evidence that this is the Nth storm of that level in that place in five years]

look you have to understand it's just a model created for insurance purposes it doesn't indicate a trend statistical outliers happen

[is presented more evidence for other places]

look, statistical outlier years happen but really it's not going to be bad until past 2100 so it'll be

[is shown things happening decades ahead of predictions]

this means nothing shut up everything's fine lalalala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-YfuVQmX8

petit choux has issued a correction as of 01:08 on Nov 25, 2021

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

munce posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-rain-storm-wednesday-1.6260478
Storm washes away areas of Trans-Canada Highway in southwestern Newfoundland
Community of Port aux Basques cut off in both directions

canada is falling apart faster than ever and people will keep demanding their godgiven right to live, fully-serviced, wherever the hell they want

newfoundland should be turned into a national park. it's not like these people are plumbing a fertile sea of cod for generations to come

donoteat
Sep 13, 2011

Loot at all this bullshit.
Who lets something like this happen?

munce posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-rain-storm-wednesday-1.6260478
Storm washes away areas of Trans-Canada Highway in southwestern Newfoundland
Community of Port aux Basques cut off in both directions

for context the truck ferry to the mainland is at port-aux-basques so uh, stock up now

toggle
Nov 7, 2005


I read a book recently called Song for the Blue Ocean by Carl Safina. It's a big book about the overfishing of tuna, the logging of forests and blocking of rivers of salmon and the poisoning/overfishing of reefs in Palau. So it makes sense that fish sizes are decreasing as they're being fished way before reaching any sort of maturity.

The book was ok, woffled a bit, and I was kinda exhausted by the end of it. It was just one shocking gently caress up after an other. Just when you thought one chapter could be worse, the next one trumps it.

I've read a couple of his books, Beyond Words (what animals think and feel) was great. I have the Eye of the Albatross to get into, but I don't think I'm ready to read about birds drowning from drift net fishing or the amount of plastics baby albatrosses are eating just yet. read em if ur keen

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munce posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-rain-storm-wednesday-1.6260478
Storm washes away areas of Trans-Canada Highway in southwestern Newfoundland
Community of Port aux Basques cut off in both directions

wait there's a part of the trans-canada highway in newfoundland? how does that work? it's not connected to the rest of canada. there's no bridge or tunnel

that's stupid. everything is stupid

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