DaysBefore posted:

Giving a presentation to potential investors on why dynamic genital mutilation technology is necessary in the Space Fedex game

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1463664329492811776
https://twitter.com/hcvertigo/status/1464007328483536919

A rebuttal to the onslaught of "SC has raised $400M and isn't out yet" articles being written right now posted:

I was rewatching the Pyro gameplay from CitizenCon and someone in the comments talked about feature creep and how it could be frustrating, but comparing 5 years ago to today it's pretty unbelievable where they've come and that makes it worth the pace.

Arguments about their conclusions aside, this made me have a thought. I work as a physicist at CERN and we spend significant sums of money in the pursuit of advancing our understanding of the natural world with full understanding that there is no "end" to the endeavor and therefore an ever present need for funding. I'm starting to view SC in a similar light. Not that I don't think it will ever come out, quite the contrary, Instead, Roberts Space Industries' approach to Star Citizen shouldn't be though of as game development but as game research. This frames the game, the funding, and the development in a completely different and much more understandable light. Perhaps in the beginning RSI wanted to make a game, but they've transitioned into a game research collaboration asking the question "what can we do with gaming". The bugs, the performance, the good and bad aspects of the alpha, it's all a part of the research process as they and we continue to push forward and experience the boundary of what is possible for a game.

They've said time and again that development will continue after the game launches, which makes even more sense given the above mindset. Anyway, I don't mind continuing to fund gaming research, I can't wait to see just how far we can go.

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Very well stated, and I agree. It would seem a travesty to not pursue as much as humanly possible, considering the once-in-our-lifetime likelihood of a game ever getting this level of backer support. They could cut everything off now and deliver what's in the pipeline - but they'd be squandering opportunity by doing so.

That said, it's great to see them taking the less easy route; they've acknowledged that they need to get a more playable product in our hands, and they are both researching what the future of gaming might look like while focusing a great amount of effort on improving QoL and delivering more stable and compelling gameplay.

I'm completely fine with this approach, as I enjoy each new patch more than the last, while still knowing they're pushing boundaries for the future of the game.

It ceased being a game I backed a while ago, and has become a primary hobby for much more than just the gameplay.

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Being a game developer myself, in simple terms: "I want to make a great game, no time or money constraints? I'm going to do it!"

That's basically it, most of us want to make that great game, but there's always roadblocks in the gaming industry where you always have to compromise somewhere. That's why games in general haven't really advanced technologically beyond just better graphics.

Simulation hasn't changed much in the last 2 decades, all we have is better graphics, there hasn't been a true paradigm shift in the way games are made, their scope and complexity. SC breaks through all of that, that's what makes it special.

Now personally I'm convinced we've just entered the last Alpha phase, with that we're seeing the game starting to finally be optimized, with things like Vulkan and Server Meshing nearer than ever. After that's done, it's all "open road" for SC, the game will grow exponentially faster over the next two years, and with that we'll have a soft-Beta soon after with about 5 systems, maybe even SQ42 within these next few years.

I know there's a lot of speculation around this, but I'm saying what I'm saying from experience and personal professional knowledge, so let's hope I'm not wrong 😅 But on that note, I have tons counter-points to any "scam citizens" out there. Their logic is quite flawed and based on ignorance😅

Bronze Fonz posted:

Every mention of Derek Smart makes me wonder just how the hell we're still hearing about this guy at all. This legendary Game Director who produced a bomb in the mid-90's that was remade a couple of times as bargain bin pew pew games that barely anyone heard of much less played.

How is he still relevant? Is it only his own insistence we don't forget about him?

Mirificus posted:

I work as a physicist at CERN and we spend significant sums of money in the pursuit of advancing our understanding of the natural world with full understanding that there is no "end" to the endeavor and therefore an ever present need for funding. I'm starting to view SC in a similar light. Not that I don't think it will ever come out, quite the contrary, Instead, Roberts Space Industries' approach to Star Citizen shouldn't be though of as game development but as game research.

Mirificus posted:

I work as a physicist at CERN

Being a game developer myself

peter gabriel posted:

hour long quest to deliver a box

hour long quest to deliver a box

GreenBuckanneer posted:

look, I tolerate that in Death Stranding because at least that game is fun and not buggy

Tippis posted:

It also has box delivery mechanics as one of its core design features, with all the Kojima madness this entails.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1463664329492811776
https://twitter.com/hcvertigo/status/1464007328483536919

Kavros posted:

The three of us here at my house who play space sims are about to wrap up on cashing out literally everything star citizen has to offer. We could probably answer any question you have about it with complete fairness, except that one. But any other question, yes.

HiroProtagonist posted:

I don't even have any kind of fondness for Derek specifically, that was just a weird series of posts to read.

Kavros posted:

The three of us here at my house who play space sims are about to wrap up on cashing out literally everything star citizen has to offer. We could probably answer any question you have about it with complete fairness, except that one. But any other question, yes.

Blue On Blue posted:

How much are you in for, between the 3 of you?

Murgos posted:

Derek Smart was Chris Roberts before Chris Roberts became Derek Smart. Derek, among his other talents, is a time traveler.

Bronze Fonz posted:

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

I'll put every dime I have on this not happening for a huge list of reasons.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Imagine wanting stakes for investing 0.00125 % of total player "investment". Maybe come back when it's millions.

Bronze Fonz posted:

Every mention of Derek Smart makes me wonder just how the hell we're still hearing about this guy at all. This legendary Game Director who produced a bomb in the mid-90's that was remade a couple of times as bargain bin pew pew games that barely anyone heard of much less played.

How is he still relevant? Is it only his own insistence we don't forget about him?

trucutru posted:

The purple TMNT vehicle is the Xi'an Railen. It's main selling point is that it has "Bespoke triangular cargo-pods". Seriously.

Kavros posted:

We blew through star citizen in a month, basically. Ten years of development, and it took maybe 25 to 30 days to see every corner of it and do all there is to do. But we have the advantage of having done everything they put in the game, in case anyone wants to know ... like, REALLY, what that is.

trucutru posted:

The purple TMNT vehicle is the Xi'an Railen. It's main selling point is that it has "Bespoke triangular cargo-pods". Seriously.

Kavros posted:

$45 between us. One mustang alpha starter package they bought some time back. Then two of us playing on starter accounts generously donated by people who don't give a gently caress about the game anymore and were happy to let us go nuts in the eternal ∞lpha.

I used to say that you effectively lose nothing by just starting in the basic starter ships. But that's not even true. You GAIN a lot by not buying ships as a backer. If you buy the ships you like, then you just ... have them. You've skipped the quest to work your way up to the ship you want. And there's so precious little to do to begin with that you're stripping out the majority of the things to do with your time in the PU.

You're basically paying the game company hundreds of dollars to ... remove anything to do or quest for.

Fidelitious posted:

Well, you weren't joking, it really says that.
Bespoke triangular cargo containers. For easy inter-operability with the rest of the galaxy with a side bonus of making stacking containers into a puzzle!