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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

gently caress, I love how they worded that so at a glance it makes Corbyn the evil one in this.
Leaving Dad of 3 penniless at Christmas!

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If anybody hasn't got one I recommend getting a thin, but king size blanket. Very helpful I find for turning yourself into a human fajita when it's cold indoors. Also good for sleeping in. I generally just drag mine around the house when it's the weekend.

happyhippy posted:

gently caress, I love how they worded that so at a glance it makes Corbyn the evil one in this.
Leaving Dad of 3 penniless at Christmas!

Corbyn should send the kids an xbox or something lmao.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Still noone has engaged as to why they think that courtcase was ok. Stupid photoshops are illegal now.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

WhatEvil posted:

I know this isn't mainly what your post was about, and I'm sure you're aware of this but for others: a reminder HS2 isn't even primarily about speed. It's about capacity. The West Coast Main Line is at capacity. AIUI they can't run any more trains on it because they have to keep minimum separation between trains, and the trains that do run on it are full.
Lots of what you'll see with people objecting to HS2 is like "We're spending all this money and destroying the countryside just to get from Birmingham to London 30 minutes quicker!"... and yes, that is going to be one outcome. But the main thing they're doing it for is this:



Total peak hour capacity at Euston will triple, which is a good thing if we're trying to take climate goals seriously.

Is the actual terminal going to be the same size though? Because tripling capacity and not making Euston bigger sounds like actual hell.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

If anybody hasn't got one I recommend getting a thin, but king size blanket. Very helpful I find for turning yourself into a human fajita when it's cold indoors. Also good for sleeping in. I generally just drag mine around the house when it's the weekend.

Corbyn should send the kids an xbox or something lmao.

Wooly hat & blanket over feet/legs is a winner, i also wear long fingerless gloves as i like warm joints. :)

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Still noone has engaged as to why they think that courtcase was ok. Stupid photoshops are illegal now.

Libel hasn't been OK for quite some time now, whether it's text, a cartoon, or stupid photoshops.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I just have a full-body snuggie thing that I zip myself into when necessary

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



NotJustANumber99 posted:

Still noone has engaged as to why they think that courtcase was ok. Stupid photoshops are illegal now.

If the photoshop is designed to implicate someone in terrorism (whether jokingly or not) then what's the difference between that and saying 'he's a terrorist' (whether jokingly or not)?

I know he donates the money but imagine being such a target for these wankers that you could literally live off continued libel payouts forever.

stev fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 27, 2021

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Failed Imagineer posted:

I just have a full-body snuggie thing that I zip myself into when necessary

If i wore one of those somebody from the Faroe Islands would gut me like a small beached whale. :(

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Corbyn should send the kids an xbox or something lmao.

How do we know Big Paul wouldn't just sell it to buy more San Miguel?

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Still noone has engaged as to why they think that courtcase was ok. Stupid photoshops are illegal now.




quote:

But not for one second will I turn the other cheek
They slap you, slap them back and take teeth
The only way a bully ever learn is getting beat

Dressed in slightly more flamboyant language

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Still noone has engaged as to why they think that courtcase was ok. Stupid photoshops are illegal now.

I'm aware you're feeling particularly threatened by the idea that posting stupid poo poo on the internet can get you sued, but it's not really on us to explain how the law works at your beck and call.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

WhatEvil posted:

all the internal walls are made of cardboard (no, not literally)
(sometimes literally)

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Trainee PornStar posted:

All I do is slice a potato really thin & soak the slices in salt water for about 30mins.
Then I just deep fry the slices for a couple mins until they look like crisps.

Beats the piss out of a bag of walkers :)

Ah, it's the soaking part i never tried. Thanks!

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Lady Demelza posted:

I've just watched the documentary about the Mary Rose, and I'm wondering why we can't name a fleet of warships after grandmas any more.

Frustratingly, The Terror isn't on Netflix any more. What else am I supposed to watch as I freeze in my poorly insulated, over priced British house?

Sonic the Hedgehog just got added

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you want something to watch then the nazis just got absolutely clowned by the red army in operation uranus this week in world war 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLFuHE1hu28

Can't wait to see how it ends! (pretty good series IMO, has helped to give a sense of when a lot of the WW2 stuff takes place as I think a lot of the time you hear about famous battles and stuff but it lacks an overall sense of time and place in the war)

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

kingturnip posted:

How do we know Big Paul wouldn't just sell it to buy more San Miguel?
No, he'd sell it and then hit the papers up with how he had to sell his kids xmas present to pay Corbyn (who is giving the money to charity but that part will be conspicuously absent).


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

My niece's 5 yrs old daughter has apparently got that.
Now that it's being better understood we think my wife has / had that. And her dad beating her didn't work, her gran trying to force feed her didn't work, her mum making her sit at the table until she ate didn't work. She's still very very selective about what she'll eat, though it's opened up a little since uni when I met her and she would basically only eat chicken nuggets.

Unsurprisingly the thing that got her to open up more was trusting that I would be patient and always having 'safe' backups in case she doesn't like things. And what do you know, taking things at her pace and creating a safe environment for her to try new things means she's eating a much, much wider variety of food.

But the comment sections of any article about the crisps girl are inevitably populated by either people calling her mum a bad parent and saying she should be taken into care, or bald nutcases raging about how she should be beaten.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Convex posted:

Ah, it's the soaking part i never tried. Thanks!
If you need someone to jump on the bed next to you let me know.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

My niece's 5 yrs old daughter has apparently got that.

It wasn’t named that at the time but my son had it until he was about 6 and the food therapy started to work.

He put himself on a feeding tube in the hospital when the only sippy cup he would drink out of broke, which forced them to take me seriously.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Lady Demelza posted:

Frustratingly, The Terror isn't on Netflix any more. What else am I supposed to watch as I freeze in my poorly insulated, over priced British house?

It's on the iPlayer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0954ks6/the-terror

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm aware you're feeling particularly threatened by the idea that posting stupid poo poo on the internet can get you sued, but it's not really on us to explain how the law works at your beck and call.

lol nice.

I just wonder how coldwar steve's works don't fall foul of the same issues?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

But the comment sections of any article about the crisps girl are inevitably populated by either people calling her mum a bad parent and saying she should be taken into care, or bald nutcases raging about how she should be beaten.

Ugh, as soon as I saw the crisp story I knew people would react like that :sigh:

Your wife sounds like me, and yes patience and absence of mockery are far more helpful than the median reaction (to either adults or children)

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Total Meatlove posted:

Just got a lovely letter from my local NHS trust, advising me that the referral made by my GP has been delivered, but they’re currently working to book in people from Jan 2019, so it might be a while.


Does anyone have the details for the ADHD specialist resource that I think was posted in this thread before?

Psychiatry UK https://psychiatry-uk.com/right-to-choose/

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

BalloonFish posted:

The Advanced Passenger Train is a good one:

As part of the second phase of the Beeching reforms, British Rail wanted to dramatically increase intercity passenger speeds to provide an alternative to both motorway and internal air travel.

BR was inspired by the first Japanese Shinkansen line but knew they were never going to get the £billions needed to build a dedicated high speed line. So they settled on running trains at 145mph on the existing infrastructure. Because no other country was trying to run trains at 150mph on infrastructure from the 1830s, BR not only had to develop swathes of new technology from scratch, but do loads of pioneering research into aerodynamics, brake systems, suspension design, pantographs and wheel/rail interface - research which forms the basis of modern high speed rail engineering to this day - to work out what sort of technology it had to develop in the first place.

Most famously this resulted in the 'tilting train' design of the APT. The project, on money-down-the-back-of-the-sofa budgets by global standards, ground on through the 1970s, becoming first a political football within BR as the bold new flagship that represented the future of the industry, then started attracting the attention of Whitehall, then Westminster, then Fleet Street.

That meant that the project came under scrutiny for failing to deliver after a decade (despite the objectively tiny budget) so the pilot production APTs were rushed into service by BR management before they were ready, which meant they became a massive public embarrassment and were quickly withdrawn.

Testing continued and the initial problems were pretty much solved. A 'squadron service' version of the APT was ready to go when the project was cancelled.

Over 15 years the APT programme (which, remember, had to virtually develop an entire field of rail engineering from scratch) had cost £50 million. That was about half the amount that British Leyland was given to develop the Austin Metro, which amounted to putting a hatchback body on the Mini and was also a paltry budget by auto industry standards.

The tilting technology was sold to Fiat, which later sold it back to the UK in the form of the Pendolinos, and much of the other technology went into the IC225s and was then lost when BR's engineering branch was privatised.

And the west coast main line remained overcrowded and Britain still lacked a comparable intercity passenger rail service to most of Europe. Which is what HS2 is supposed to solve at... significantly greater cost than £50 million.
My favourite British invention along those lines is the Fairey Rotodyne of the 1950s. The speed, load-carrying capacity and fuel economy of a fixed-wing aircraft, but the VTOL abilities of a helicopter? Sounds great! But despite the prototype being very successful in tests, enough to get provisional orders from airlines and military customers, Fairey didn't manage to crack the noise issue. The Rotodyne used little jets at the tips of its rotor blades to spin them, and these produced a painfully loud screeching noise during takeoff. No problem, though - a bit more R&D money to develop noise-suppressing jet exhausts (which they were already working on) will surely solve that?

Along comes HM Treasury, which has funded the prototype. No, they cry! You didn't get it right in one go, and we're looking for anything with a hint of red ink to cross off our ledgers, so this weird and radical design must be scrapped. Immediately. Yes, we mean chop up the prototype and destroy the pieces. No, you can't sell the technology to anyone else to develop. That would make us look dumb for cancelling it in the first place!

(Edit: the prototype was faster and longer-ranged than a modern Chinook, and could carry practically the same payload... in the 1950s. But nope, no reason anyone might want that technology developed any further. :rolleyes:)

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Nov 27, 2021

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

NotJustANumber99 posted:

lol nice.

I just wonder how coldwar steve's works don't fall foul of the same issues?
Because people have eyes and brain and can tell the difference between a topical satirical photo collage and a targeted image that basically boils down to 'Mr Corbyn suports blowing up hospitals' with zero satirical bent based around a story with no connection to Corbyn in the slightest.

Like if you're a politician don't share doctored pictures of other politicians you don't like supporting awful crimes its not hard

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
do you think corbyn was really at the hospital whilst the car bomb was still burning with a wreath?

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
I'm not really sure how to respond to that question?

Do you think the problem is anything to do with people believing the picture is real lol

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Mr Phillby posted:

I'm not really sure how to respond to that question?

Do you think the problem is anything to do with people believing the picture is real lol

Well if the photo was real i guess it would have zero satirical bent so kind of yeah?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

NotJustANumber99 posted:

lol nice.

I just wonder how coldwar steve's works don't fall foul of the same issues?

Because they're obvious parodies. Cunty boy councillor got hosed because his party in concert with the media have made it so parodies on Corbyn can be believed, so it's much easier to rule that they are libellous.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Cold War Steve's mockups give the impression of the Tories being a corrupt shambles and a running joke about the Emperor's New Clothes, which is true. The Corbyn photoshop gives the impression he's a terrorist sympathiser, which he isn't.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I see some of you seem to have taken the Tesla flavoured bait.

SpitefulHammer
Dec 27, 2012

kingturnip posted:

Some of the children I've worked with have sensory/behavioural feeding difficulties and... nope.
Some of them can taste differences neurotypical people can only imagine.
One kid would only eat McDonalds from one particular restaurant in the area and could tell if parents had got the takeaway from somewhere else.

I'm not really familiar with ARFID, but if it's anything like that, then... yeah, you better get your supply lines secured.

Yeah, I've worked with young people with ARFID. It's absolutely awful.

Really not as easy as subbing in food and there can be all sorts of rituals around eating that, if disturbed can mean the difference between a young person starving themselves or going straight to self-harm - for example, I have seen a child with both ARFID and autism go straight to headbutting walls for being given the wrong colour plate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Is there any understanding of why people have those sorts of problems nowadays? Or did they likely always exist and people just died of them early until quite recently?

I can believe that modern society is bad and breaks people's brains because it does, but is that also true for young children?

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Just finished the new Bond, I liked that he was actually pretty jolly nice throughout even without the plot reasons for him to be so. Why is M still in post lol.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Is there any understanding of why people have those sorts of problems nowadays? Or did they likely always exist and people just died of them early until quite recently?

I can believe that modern society is bad and breaks people's brains because it does, but is that also true for young children?

I'm inclined to think that children with the kind of severe sensory/behavioural feeding difficulties we're talking about probably just got malnourished and any passing virus/bacteria/[x] was enough to do them in.
Sounds harsh, but lots of these children also have other behaviours that put them at risk. I've had very stressed parents telling me that their child loves climbing on window sills, which is a problem in their 17th floor flat.
Or that if they aren't firmly holding onto them when they walk down the pavement, they'll just run straight out into the road.

Also, until ~30 years ago, those kids would have been packed off to the nearest special needs school basically never to be seen by members of the public again, because they'd go from school straight to a residential home. So the only people really aware of them would be their close family, staff at the schools/homes and medical staff.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
from the Victorian industrial era onwards till after the Second World War: If you were rich you got sent to a special home, if you were poor in a city you lived till you got your first illness and then no one really tried to save you.

Rural areas were much much better with people with learning difficulties, so far as any poor person was treated well - they would be put in with grandparents if the LD was very severe, but mostly they went to work at “the big house”. Plenty of menial repetitive work for all genders to do, in the grounds or in the kitchens.

Where it got really bad was the Edwardian era and the upper classes obsession with eugenics, if you were rich you were absolutely abandoned in a home in case people found out that your blood was “tainted”, in the Victorian era that stigma wasn’t there so the homes were more of a respite service than a permanent thing.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Like a lot of these things 'is it new' because we're the snowflakes generations, or did people die of 'unexplained causes' because we didn't understand them.

When I was at school (1970s), one girl had nut allergy. She was the only person doing A-level cookery and the practical exam included a recipe involving nuts. The school asked the exam board to set a different recipe given the nut allergy and they wouldn't so she did the exam with as much masking, gloves and ventilation as possible and a private ambulance on standby outside in case she needed medical attention.

As for being 'a fussy eater' no tolerance at all.
I was forced to eat boiled bacon at school by a teacher one day when I was 10, despite much protesting, went home with a horrendous stomach ache and threw up absolutely everywhere for hours on end.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

Thank you!

OwlFancier posted:

Is there any understanding of why people have those sorts of problems nowadays? Or did they likely always exist and people just died of them early until quite recently?

They died. Possibly not even of starvation caused by their disordered eating! Disease was everywhere and people who wouldn't eat the little food that was available to the general population were even more likely to keel over.

"Failure to thrive" was a cause of diagnosis that probably meant the infant had food intolerances or a digestive disorder or literally any one of a thousand conditions which we recognise today.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

OwlFancier posted:

Is there any understanding of why people have those sorts of problems nowadays? Or did they likely always exist and people just died of them early until quite recently?

Disabilities were often swept under the carpet, locked behind closed doors or buried 6 feet underground. Unless the parents were rich and willing, I doubt that ultra special dietary needs were even considered, let alone catered for.

We lived in a very pigeon holed society, and I've heard older people ask similar questions about why there are so many LGBT people today. It's because society didn't allow people outside of those pigeon holes to easily exist.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
it really was only from the Edwardian era onwards where disabilities were seen as shameful because of the whole eugenics thing, both in Christianity and Islam people with learning disabilities were traditionally treated better than anyone else by the church because they are seen as free of sin - this still stands in Muslim countries today.


This was an age of TB polio and smallpox where anyone could find themselves disabled.

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