PoliToons 2021: the Hent is to damn Tai

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Selachian: Oct 9, 2012

Meanwhile back in 1947 with Parrish and Orr:

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Orr anticipates Ramirez by 50 years!

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The Trib doesn't think much of Britain going more socialist post-WWII:

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Nor does it like the Marshall Plan:

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On the other hand, here's an example of a right-wing cartoonist saying no, government is actually good:

(It's also an example of cartoon shorthand that has fallen out of style, by the way. The Stetson hat, string tie, pince-nez, and soft leather briefcase all used to be symbols of a politician.)

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And an example of Parrish's hatred of Europe putting him on the right side for once:

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(Gosh, I wonder what Parrish is going to have to say about Korea and Vietnam!)

And Orr comes out against the draft:

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Plus there's this, by C. D. Batchelor, who was the cartoonist for the New York Daily News for most of the mid-20th century:

Selachian fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Nov 27, 2021

# ? Nov 27, 2021 19:57

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 03:21

Jagged Jim: Sep 26, 2013; I... I can only look though the window...

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

The defense attorney in the Ahmaud Arbery case declared that Arbery had long dirty toenails, therefore a bunch of racist shitbags chasing him down and shooting him were totally justified.

More specifically that Arbery could not possibly be out jogging with long toenails therefore he was casing the area to rob people and completely justifies killing him.

# ? Nov 27, 2021 20:12

kartikeya: Mar 17, 2009

Raised By Birds posted:

Rob Rogers

It's this one, this is the dumbest version of 'thing labeled inflation'. Just...what?

# ? Nov 27, 2021 20:46

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Selachian posted:

The Trib doesn't think much of Britain going more socialist post-WWII:

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Incredible. Somehow managing to do anti-colonialism wrong.

# ? Nov 27, 2021 20:57

Raised By Birds: May 5, 2013

David Horsey posted:

Even with so much evidence to the contrary, some media commentators cling to the creaky shibboleth that the �wisdom of the American people� is expressed in every election. Wisdom is not the word that springs to mind when contemplating what drives this country�s citizens to cast their votes the way they do. At best, an election is a collective gut reaction that is derived as much from deep-seated biases and misinformation as by rationality and serious research.

We may be sentient beings, but we are no geniuses when it comes to politics.

A little over a year ago, Americans made a choice for president between a calm, competent, seasoned professional politician and an amoral, ignorant, narcissistic con man. Nearly half of the voters went for the con man. At the time, there was a modicum of comfort in the fact that a bare majority of Americans voted the other way, but now, if polls are correct, quite a few of those folks appear unhappy with their choice. Do they want the con man back?

In one year, Joe Biden has managed to help millions of Americans navigate through the COVID-19 shutdown of the economy by providing billions of dollars in direct aid to individuals and businesses. He has signed into law a massive infrastructure bill that will fix highways, bridges, electrical grids, transportation links and other vital underpinnings of our economy, something past presidents � the con man in particular � failed to do. Biden has also ended the endless war in Afghanistan and has brought coherence back to American foreign policy. And, in the federal bureaucracy, he has replaced criminality with competence.

Nevertheless, the president�s poll numbers are sinking.

Voters on the left complain that Biden has not done enough, as if it is not a political miracle that he has accomplished so much in less than a year, given the razor-thin Democratic majority in the U.S. Senate. Voters on the right see Biden through the distorted lenses provided by Fox News, Alex Jones and QAnon and await the imminent restoration of Donald Trump�s regime, either through the Pillow Guy or the ghost of John F. Kennedy Jr.

Perhaps most dispiriting of all, the middle-of-the-road, suburban swing voters seem to be swinging away from Biden. Ask them why, and they cannot really tell you. If their comments to the media are a true indication, they have no clue what Biden has been doing for them. They know more about who Kim Kardashian is dating or where to get the best Black Friday deals.

Yes, the voters get it right now and then, but it is not wisdom. It is dumb luck.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 02:02

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

Raised By Birds posted:

Pretty impressively smug to be a 'both sides bad, I'm a sensible centrist moderate' while still claiming you know better than other centrists to maximise your smugness.

Even if you agree that Biden has accomplished all of those things deciding not to support a politician who has accomplished some good things while failing to do other important things is a reasonable position.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 02:11

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Raised By Birds posted:

lol he made his DASGDC strawman for the left a black woman. She's just so unreasonable, demanding that Biden do more to combat systemic racism against her in society, or that he do more to prevent the planet from becoming uninhabitable.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 02:44

Raised By Birds: May 5, 2013

Clay Bennett

Steve Breen

Gas Pump Face Hitler is shocked.

Jeff Danziger

Al Goodwyn

Clay Jones

Steve Kelley

polls polls polls polls polls polls polls

Drew Sheneman

# ? Nov 28, 2021 05:38

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Sinfest Sunday! :kstare:

....what the gently caress was that?

And what the gently caress is this?

So it's all fake, but black women dressed as fascist strippers really are trying to get us to improve our immune systems, I guess?

# ? Nov 28, 2021 07:16

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Raised By Birds posted:

Too many words; did not read.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 08:16

By popular demand: Jul 17, 2007; IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!

Ignoring the first one, Sinfest this week has a semblance of a running plot and focused hate only for vaccine policy.
a good week for a poo poo comic.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 08:25

Skeleton Mom: Aug 11, 2008

oh no what did jesse ventura do this time

# ? Nov 28, 2021 08:48

packetmantis: Feb 26, 2013

One of those had an actual joke in it, even!

# ? Nov 28, 2021 08:54

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

That's quite the week to portray a driver ramming his car into a crowd of people as the good guy.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 09:18

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Alhazred posted:

That's quite the week to portray a driver ramming his car into a crowd of people as the good guy.

Yeah, holy poo poo Ishida, read the room even slightly.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 09:22

By popular demand: Jul 17, 2007; IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!

Things Ishida constantly fails to read include : the room, history, basic code of conduct and the facts.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 09:26

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Cloud Potato posted:

Telegraph:

German parties agree coalition deal to make Olaf Scholz chancellor

Alright, I have to ask.

Why is the Telegraph cartoon always wrong and frequently the exact opposite of what happened?

The coalition talks were remarkably calm compared to normal, the parties agree on a whole lot of things especially on social matters and the remaining stress points are completely normal in a coalition government.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 09:52

SimonChris: Apr 24, 2008; The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.; Grimey Drawer

If I didn't know the artist, I would have no idea if this was supposed to be pro- or anti-vax.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 10:11

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

So it's all fake, but black women dressed as fascist strippers really are trying to get us to improve our immune systems, I guess?

Don't forget the title of this particular strip, "me govern you long time"

So I guess someone, or something, in this strip is Vietnamese but gently caress knows what

# ? Nov 28, 2021 10:33

Trapezium Dave: Oct 22, 2012

By popular demand posted:

Things Ishida constantly fails to read include : the room, history, basic code of conduct and the facts.

And also, critical to the only plot element in Sinfest I remotely care about, a calendar.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 11:58

TheFlyingLlama: Jan 2, 2013; You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?

it's actually shocking that this group of cartoons is not only an improvement, but like, among the best cartoons ishida's released in the last year.

they're still terrible! it's the bare minimum and somehow also his best

# ? Nov 28, 2021 12:09

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Antigravitas posted:

Alright, I have to ask.

Why is the Telegraph cartoon always wrong and frequently the exact opposite of what happened?

The coalition talks were remarkably calm compared to normal, the parties agree on a whole lot of things especially on social matters and the remaining stress points are completely normal in a coalition government.

A few reasons spring to mind:

1) The coalition has somewhat left wing people in it and thus must be terrible
2) Blower and the telegraph fully bought into brexit and everything bad in the uk being the EU's fault, so coupled with those mean europeans not giving the uk everything it demanded after brexit, they have an interest in showing germany as a failing shitshow
3) The UK, with it's First Past The Post voting system, is dominated by two parties and so it's only experience of coalitions is the 2010-15 Conservative/Lib Dem government which everyone hated (Tories because they couldn't 100% Tory all the time and Lib Dem voters because lib dem leader Nick Clegg completely folded on issues his voters cared most about, e.g. university tuition fees). That and the theoretical Labour/SNP coalition touted each election because it would let Evil Nicola Sturgeon demand an independence referendum merely because Scotland voted for a party advocating for one. The UK much prefers Strong Leaders without fully contemplating what the implications of that could be.
4) Blower is a hack idiot moron rear end in a top hat

# ? Nov 28, 2021 12:36

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Raised By Birds posted:

Clay Jones

Also does this have a big black bar over it for everyone else or is my computer being weird again

# ? Nov 28, 2021 12:43

Raised By Birds: May 5, 2013

Angepain posted:

Also does this have a big black bar over it for everyone else or is my computer being weird again

You know, I had just assumed this was a bit. Like "my cartoon about information got censored."

But no, turns out this was just GoComics loving up. Jones himself left a comment about it. Someone else linked to Jones' wordpress page where it shows up fine:

# ? Nov 28, 2021 12:59

Vib Rib: Jul 23, 2007; God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss
🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

hooman posted:

Yeah, holy poo poo Ishida, read the room even slightly.

No, no. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's done it before. This is not an accident.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 12:59

Srice: Sep 11, 2011

Raised By Birds posted:

Of all the cartoonists that get posted regularly in this thread, if I could give a wedgie to one it'd be Horsey

# ? Nov 28, 2021 13:39

Wipfmetz: Oct 12, 2007; Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

Angepain posted:

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2) Blower and the telegraph fully bought into brexit and everything bad in the uk being the EU's fault, so coupled with those mean europeans not giving the uk everything it demanded after brexit, they have an interest in showing germany as a failing shitshow
...

Germany is currently surprised of covid, nearly 2 years into covid. But calm, quick and discreet coalition talks between kinda-opposing parties are supposed to be part of our shitshow? Huh.

Wipfmetz fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Nov 28, 2021

# ? Nov 28, 2021 14:22

Mr. Squishy: Mar 22, 2010; A country where you can always get richer.

Some more background info on the Telegraph. It has always been the broadsheet for old, rich, conservatives (earning it the nickname the Torygraph) but has in recent years has gone to poo poo as the owners try to increase ad revenue and decrease staffing cost. They have done this by forming their editorial policy on what they think would please the big spenders, and firing any journalist who objects.
They are also the home-paper for Boris Johnson, long before he was Prime Minister (and, amazingly, long after). They had him as a columnist when he was making poo poo up about the EU, and now they are now unabashed cheerleaders for whatever the government chooses to do.

e:

Skeleton Mom posted:

oh no what did jesse ventura do this time

be a wrestler from the 80s who the cartoonist remembers.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 14:44

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Wipfmetz posted:

Germany is currently surprised of covid, nearly 2 years into covid. But calm, quick and discreet coalition talks between kinda-opposing parties are supposed to be part of our shitshow? Huh.

this would require admitting that covid is dangerous, when blower and the telegraph are more concerned about not getting to go to the pub and office workers being allowed to work from home outside the watchful gaze of their social superiors

# ? Nov 28, 2021 15:15

Alhazred: Feb 16, 2011

By popular demand posted:

Ignoring the first one, Sinfest this week has a semblance of a running plot and focused hate only for vaccine policy.

And also glorifying an act of terrorism.

packetmantis posted:

One of those had an actual joke in it, even!

You have to be more specific than that.

The wrestling strip also remind me of that Futurama strip where the joke is that wrestling is all about caricatures of groups of people that the public doesn't like being beaten up by the "good guy". And since the guy who's watching admits that he knows it's fake it's hard to tell what point the strip is trying to make. Is Jesse Ventura the hero for beating up the woke wrestler? Is it that the woke wrestler and Ventura is just acting out roles? Is it some sort of "bread and circus" metaphor?

Alhazred fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Nov 28, 2021

# ? Nov 28, 2021 15:45

Mr. Squishy: Mar 22, 2010; A country where you can always get richer.

Alhazred posted:

The wrestling strip also remind me of that Futurama strip where the joke is that wrestling is all about caricatures of groups of people that the public doesn't like being beaten up by the "good guy". And since the guy who's watching admits that he knows it's fake it's hard to tell what point the strip is trying to make. Is Jesse Ventura the hero for beating up the woke wrestler? Is it that the woke wrestler and Ventura is just acting out roles? Is it some sort of "bread and circus" metaphor?

WWF Beltway in the first panel suggests to me it's saying politics is a punch and judy show, where two factions with purportedly conflicting idealogies are actually working for a common goal. Wrestling being fake is integral to the metaphor.
I genuinely don't know if Jesse Ventura is being Jesse Ventura, as I've not been following him. Is he still in politics? Is he still in the public eye?

# ? Nov 28, 2021 16:08

Dr. VooDoo: May 4, 2006

This is like what? The fourth or fifth time Sinfest has had the bad woke people being run over by a car? At this point it�s less a Freudian slip and more a freudian fog horn :laffo:

# ? Nov 28, 2021 16:43

readingatwork: Jan 8, 2009; Hello Fatty!; Fun Shoe

Alhazred posted:

That's quite the week to portray a driver ramming his car into a crowd of people as the good guy.

Jesus Christ Ishida...

# ? Nov 28, 2021 17:37

Pants Donkey: Nov 13, 2011

Skeleton Mom posted:

oh no what did jesse ventura do this time

Nothing, from what I can see. Look at all of the references in the strips this week: they�re, at the most recent, twenty years old. This guy has been, for a decade now, using a Matrix reference as a metaphor for�being woke but not THAT kind of woke. He�s probably just too lazy to bother looking up the current big names in wrestling, and he apparently stopped keeping tabs on pop culture since 2005.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 18:05

Cloud Potato: Jan 9, 2011; "I'm... happy!"

Observer:

"The tragedy in the Channel � Chris Riddell on the drowning of refugees trying to reach Britain"

Sunday Telegraph:

Macron tells Johnson to �get serious� on Channel crisis after tweeted letter

Matt:

Treasury sets aside up to �1.7bn to cover Bulb�s winter running costs after collapse

Sunday Times:

New UK Covid measures to be announced to tackle Omicron spread

Mail on Sunday:

# ? Nov 28, 2021 18:36

readingatwork: Jan 8, 2009; Hello Fatty!; Fun Shoe

Skeleton Mom posted:

oh no what did jesse ventura do this time

He news man on the tv.

The weird part of that comic is how the first wrestler is a caricature of the left but the other is an actual person who exists. Shouldn�t it be a caricature of a right wing pundit instead? You�d actually have something resembling a point then. I suppose that would require making fun of the right in some capacity though which is why he did this instead.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 19:30

Kevin DuBrow: Apr 21, 2012; The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Cloud Potato posted:

Sunday Times:

New UK Covid measures to be announced to tackle Omicron spread

Nosferatu? I don't get it.

Kevin DuBrow fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 28, 2021

# ? Nov 28, 2021 19:59

Mr. Squishy: Mar 22, 2010; A country where you can always get richer.

Kevin DuBrow posted:

Nosferatu? I don't get it.

That's just what he looks like.
e: the he being Sajid Javid, the present health secretary.

# ? Nov 28, 2021 20:11

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Mr. Squishy posted:

That's just what he looks like.
e: the he being Sajid Javid, the present health secretary.

Oh wait did the tories finally just go a head and vote in an actual vampire? I mean they obviously always wanted to, but the annoying fact they don't actually exist, in the past has always got in the way.

Guess where there's a will there's a way. :shrug: