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Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

Azathoth posted:

that is my second favorite part of bigfoot lore, that they might be aliens

my favorite is that the bigfoot in the patterson gimlin film has gigantic tits and no one ever talks about it

Astonishing Legends did a pretty cool 5 part breakdown of the Patterson Gimlin film that explores every possible angle of what's on that reel and the backstories of everyone involved and I thought it was pretty good.

They raise the point that the hairy milkers aren't a thing we see in existing primates but also that's a very human-centric criticism considering we're comparing whatever Patty is to a subtropical gorilla when there's even the slimmest chance she's a relict Australopithecus Boisei living in the cold rear end PNW.

Also a fun fact: because the original film was shot at either 16 or 18 frames per second, the vast majority of the copies of the PGF that people wind up arguing about online are moot because they're comprised of "hallucinated" interpolated frames that don't exist in the original to bump it up to the 30FPS modern MP4s use.

e: lol Bigfoot snipe

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

https://twitter.com/SandiaWisdom/status/1464863238403895302?s=20

hrmm
it's probably just a coincidence that the peanutties sound like an old woman

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

has anyone tried going to Sandia mountain to find them

who wants to go with me to Sandia mountain to find them?

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


my bony fealty posted:

has anyone tried going to Sandia mountain to find them

who wants to go with me to Sandia mountain to find them?

maybe Anjali will pick us!

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


how good is your Naruto run

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Rime posted:

About a decade ago I was stalked by something for four straight days in the wilderness northwest of Vancouver, at the point it started I was a minimum two day hike in any direction from civilization. My route required cable car crossings over deep river channels with no nearby foot crossings. Don't know what it was, know 100% it was not a bear or a cougar and it was large.

That valley is filled with First Nations petrogyphs and for thousands of years is where the local bands were sent for coming of age rituals. Fascinating imagery, nothing remotely cryptid or woo that I saw.

Most Americans do not appreciate the vast amount of uninhabited terrain north immediately north of the border in the PNW, the states is overpopulated to a depressing degree with nothing remotely comparable outside of Alaska.

This is interesting to me because from your posts in other threads, you seem like you tell things as you see them & are not prone to bullshit.

Would you elaborate or is there not much to tell other than something followed you?

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

lots of pnw posters itt

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Azathoth posted:

that is my second favorite part of bigfoot lore, that they might be aliens

my favorite is that the bigfoot in the patterson gimlin film has gigantic tits and no one ever talks about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAt_nnE-9Ps&t=87s

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Trainee PornStar posted:

This is interesting to me because from your posts in other threads, you seem like you tell things as you see them & are not prone to bullshit.

Would you elaborate or is there not much to tell other than something followed you?

Not much else to elaborate.

Something followed me down the valley from the sub-alpine for multiple days, I had my hackles up the entire time and kept half-hearing things too rhythmic to be random wildlife, and every night at exactly 7pm it very audibly broke a tree and knocked it over. The first night I thought it was just a bear, because that's a thing they do (They'll forage rotten trees for grubs at the base), but a grizzly would not follow me for four days down the valley bottom across all those deep river ravines and then gently caress with me at the exact same time of day. Running into four bears breaking exactly one tree and not making any other noise or investigating my camp would be bizarre. Four trees all calling it quits at the same time of day, 40+km apart, defies reason.

I've had multiple run-in's and stalking incidents with Cougars, over the years, this definitely was not a Cougar. A cougar would have just fuckin' ambushed from above and eaten me by day two if it was that desperate.

I don't assign this to any particular cryptid or woo-woo related to the First Nations ritual usage of the terrain - because I have no visual or other evidence of what it was - but a decade of turning it over in my head has allowed me to rule out most natural causes I can think of. All I know is something absolutely followed me and poo poo felt extremely weird and "off" in that valley that week, in a way which has never repeated on the other trips I've done into the same area in the years since. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

This was up near the northern end of what is considered the "hotbed" of Sasquatch activity in the PNW, up around the Harrison Lake / Lillooet River, in a valley which has never had any industrial activity in it and the First Nations never built settlements in despite the richness of it. So the mind likes to wander, but I firmly do not believe that Sasquatch exists, certainly not in this century.

Why? Because I've flown over too much of BC and seen the staggering extent of the clearcuts and string roads from the air, seen logging in terrain so remote and extreme you couldn't believe it could be profitable. The Cariboo are going extinct from this poo poo, a man-sized mammal isn't hiding out there.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
That's a really cool story, thanks for telling it :)

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Rime posted:

Not much else to elaborate.

Something followed me down the valley from the sub-alpine for multiple days, I had my hackles up the entire time and kept half-hearing things too rhythmic to be random wildlife, and every night at exactly 7pm it very audibly broke a tree and knocked it over. The first night I thought it was just a bear, because that's a thing they do (They'll forage rotten trees for grubs at the base), but a grizzly would not follow me for four days down the valley bottom across all those deep river ravines and then gently caress with me at the exact same time of day. Running into four bears breaking exactly one tree and not making any other noise or investigating my camp would be bizarre. Four trees all calling it quits at the same time of day, 40+km apart, defies reason.

I've had multiple run-in's and stalking incidents with Cougars, over the years, this definitely was not a Cougar. A cougar would have just fuckin' ambushed from above and eaten me by day two if it was that desperate.

I don't assign this to any particular cryptid or woo-woo related to the First Nations ritual usage of the terrain - because I have no visual or other evidence of what it was - but a decade of turning it over in my head has allowed me to rule out most natural causes I can think of. All I know is something absolutely followed me and poo poo felt extremely weird and "off" in that valley that week, in a way which has never repeated on the other trips I've done into the same area in the years since. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

This was up near the northern end of what is considered the "hotbed" of Sasquatch activity in the PNW, up around the Harrison Lake / Lillooet River, in a valley which has never had any industrial activity in it and the First Nations never built settlements in despite the richness of it. So the mind likes to wander, but I firmly do not believe that Sasquatch exists, certainly not in this century.

Why? Because I've flown over too much of BC and seen the staggering extent of the clearcuts and string roads from the air, seen logging in terrain so remote and extreme you couldn't believe it could be profitable. The Cariboo are going extinct from this poo poo, a man-sized mammal isn't hiding out there.

Many thanks.

Thats probably the most compelling account I've read, not saying bigfoot or aliens but something weird is going on.

Mr. Barnesworth
Jun 28, 2008

I said GOOD DAY, sir!

my bony fealty posted:

has anyone tried going to Sandia mountain to find them

who wants to go with me to Sandia mountain to find them?

No need, DP does house calls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tErc2cO1Ls&t=90s

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Trainee PornStar posted:

Many thanks.

Thats probably the most compelling account I've read, not saying bigfoot or aliens but something weird is going on.
Reading that reminded that there was a palpable feeling of strangeness when I and my friend saw the cigar. Things were already visually strange with the bright low lying clouds, but things also felt off driving on the bridge prior to the sighting. It's almost comforting to know there is still a tantalizing thread of the inexplicable in our disenchanted and deteriorating world.

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
this thread unironically owns and it brings me much joy, happiness etc.

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
i know my posts on here are not so good but i promise that on the astral forums that exist in a perpendicular dimension to this thread i have some truly banger posts

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

endocriminologist posted:

i know my posts on here are not so good but i promise that on the astral forums that exist in a perpendicular dimension to this thread i have some truly banger posts

Get your binaural beats going & you'll be in business :)

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

endocriminologist posted:

i know my posts on here are not so good but i promise that on the astral forums that exist in a perpendicular dimension to this thread i have some truly banger posts

I am Ra. The third density is for shitposting.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

endocriminologist posted:

this thread unironically owns and it brings me much joy, happiness etc.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


endocriminologist posted:

i know my posts on here are not so good but i promise that on the astral forums that exist in a perpendicular dimension to this thread i have some truly banger posts

i have remote viewed ur astral posts and can confirm they are bangers

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


when u already p'nutted but shes still astral projecting

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

asstrawl

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Rah! posted:

when u already p'nutted but shes still astral projecting

new thread title please

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


toggle posted:

new thread title please

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

Rime posted:

Not much else to elaborate.

Something followed me down the valley from the sub-alpine for multiple days, I had my hackles up the entire time and kept half-hearing things too rhythmic to be random wildlife, and every night at exactly 7pm it very audibly broke a tree and knocked it over. The first night I thought it was just a bear, because that's a thing they do (They'll forage rotten trees for grubs at the base), but a grizzly would not follow me for four days down the valley bottom across all those deep river ravines and then gently caress with me at the exact same time of day. Running into four bears breaking exactly one tree and not making any other noise or investigating my camp would be bizarre. Four trees all calling it quits at the same time of day, 40+km apart, defies reason.

I've had multiple run-in's and stalking incidents with Cougars, over the years, this definitely was not a Cougar. A cougar would have just fuckin' ambushed from above and eaten me by day two if it was that desperate.

I don't assign this to any particular cryptid or woo-woo related to the First Nations ritual usage of the terrain - because I have no visual or other evidence of what it was - but a decade of turning it over in my head has allowed me to rule out most natural causes I can think of. All I know is something absolutely followed me and poo poo felt extremely weird and "off" in that valley that week, in a way which has never repeated on the other trips I've done into the same area in the years since. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

This was up near the northern end of what is considered the "hotbed" of Sasquatch activity in the PNW, up around the Harrison Lake / Lillooet River, in a valley which has never had any industrial activity in it and the First Nations never built settlements in despite the richness of it. So the mind likes to wander, but I firmly do not believe that Sasquatch exists, certainly not in this century.

Why? Because I've flown over too much of BC and seen the staggering extent of the clearcuts and string roads from the air, seen logging in terrain so remote and extreme you couldn't believe it could be profitable. The Cariboo are going extinct from this poo poo, a man-sized mammal isn't hiding out there.

:yum:

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster
Nth’ing that Rime’s experience/post is awesome.

Objurium posted:

Astonishing Legends did a pretty cool 5 part breakdown of the Patterson Gimlin film that explores every possible angle of what's on that reel and the backstories of everyone involved and I thought it was pretty good.

They raise the point that the hairy milkers aren't a thing we see in existing primates but also that's a very human-centric criticism considering we're comparing whatever Patty is to a subtropical gorilla when there's even the slimmest chance she's a relict Australopithecus Boisei living in the cold rear end PNW.

Also a fun fact: because the original film was shot at either 16 or 18 frames per second, the vast majority of the copies of the PGF that people wind up arguing about online are moot because they're comprised of "hallucinated" interpolated frames that don't exist in the original to bump it up to the 30FPS modern MP4s use.

e: lol Bigfoot snipe

There’s a book about the Patterson/Gimlin film that goes into all these details as well (it was 16fps). The whole story is fascinating and exposes how misconstrued it became in the hands of the media. Left me convinced that at the very least, the two of them didn’t fake it.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Fly Ricky posted:

Nth’ing that Rime’s experience/post is awesome.

There’s a book about the Patterson/Gimlin film that goes into all these details as well (it was 16fps). The whole story is fascinating and exposes how misconstrued it became in the hands of the media. Left me convinced that at the very least, the two of them didn’t fake it.

yeah, i dunno what is on that film, and i don't really think bigfoot is a thing but there's no way in hell that those two guys could fake something that'd look a tenth that good

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

I liked the internet theory that it's footage of the tail end of them killing a bunch of Sasquatch and the one in the film is retreating

Mr. Barnesworth
Jun 28, 2008

I said GOOD DAY, sir!

Rime posted:

Not much else to elaborate.

Something followed me down the valley from the sub-alpine for multiple days, I had my hackles up the entire time and kept half-hearing things too rhythmic to be random wildlife,

Are there grow ops out in that area? Wandered too close to the cartel and they followed you out? That was always my biggest worry wandering around the Cascades in Washington, bumbling into some opening through the brush and realizing I'm standing at the edge of a pot field. Shiiiiieeeet

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

I find it interesting that most indigenous cultures all have stories of some sort of bigfoot/yeti/bunyip type character just roaming their forests.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

goons have existed since the dawn of time

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?
okay, it doesn't have the ecological grandeur of Rime's, but here's one of my weird paranormal stories that is 100% true, that I have told many times (I can't remember if on the forums), and I have no explanation for:

i was a freshman in college at the nation's oldest — and legendarily haunted, i learned later — public university. the music building was next door to my dorm. i was lonely, and often went there to play in the piano rooms, trying to teach myself how to play a song about a dead girl.

late one friday night, i heard someone else practicing in a piano room on the other side of the wall. they were really going at it, angry angry classical. as i was packing up to go, i walked around, figuring i'd make a joke about a couple of dorks playing piano late on a friday night instead of partying.

the lights on that half of the room were off. so were the lights inside the specific piano practice room where the piano continued to thunder. there was a glass window in the door about a foot tall and six inches wide. there was visibly no one inside. the cover was down on the keys. the piano continued to play.

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!

Bob Socko posted:

This is something I've only told a couple of people, but what the hell, might as well post about it on a dead gay comedy forum:

Sometimes, I dream things that go on to happen in real life. It's happened to me about twenty times, give or take. It's never anything important, no lottery numbers or super bowl winners. The first time, I dreamt I drove by an old, rickety shed in the middle of a field. A couple of years later, on a family trip through a town I'd never been to before, we drove by the same shed. The second time was a dream about writing a letter. A couple of years later, as I was writing a letter, I realized it was the same as my dream. It was the same room, the same bed I was sprawled across, the same paper - and definitely a room I'd never seen before, as I was halfway around the world on my first international trip.

I thought I was nuts. I tried talking to a couple of people about it after the letter-writing incident, but they thought I was nuts, too. I didn't tell anyone else for more than twenty years. Instead, I'd just get freaked out when I remembered a dream in the morning (I almost never remember my dreams) because it might be one of those dreams.

You know what made me start thinking about it more positively? The goddamn trailer for Dune. The old mystic lady asking the main character if he dreams things that happen in real life, or whatever the line is. I realized what I experienced might be a real thing, or at least a plot device in books and movies.

Sure wish some bird would tell me what's going on.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6028740/

It's just Cassandra stuff mixed with weather balloons.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Petey posted:

okay, it doesn't have the ecological grandeur of Rime's, but here's one of my weird paranormal stories that is 100% true, that I have told many times (I can't remember if on the forums), and I have no explanation for:

i was a freshman in college at the nation's oldest — and legendarily haunted, i learned later — public university. the music building was next door to my dorm. i was lonely, and often went there to play in the piano rooms, trying to teach myself how to play a song about a dead girl.

late one friday night, i heard someone else practicing in a piano room on the other side of the wall. they were really going at it, angry angry classical. as i was packing up to go, i walked around, figuring i'd make a joke about a couple of dorks playing piano late on a friday night instead of partying.

the lights on that half of the room were off. so were the lights inside the specific piano practice room where the piano continued to thunder. there was a glass window in the door about a foot tall and six inches wide. there was visibly no one inside. the cover was down on the keys. the piano continued to play.

God drat you, why did you post this at bedtime? Now I'm gonna have nightmares.

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

This thread is a bright shining star in the middle of a vast, cold, unfeeling night sky

Look again at that forum. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every poster who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident image macros, bad takes, and shitposts, every :huh: and :holy:, every :q: and :shrek:, every :tinfoil: and :wtc:, every :btroll: and :krakken:, every :tinylue:, every :aatrek: and :downs:, :haibrower:, :2bong: and :ducksiren:, every :barf:, every :c00lbutt:, every :a2m:, every :circlefap:, every :3: and :eyepop: in the history of our species posted there--on a mote of dust suspended in a flooded New Orleans server room.

The Forums are a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those mods and admins so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless red text avatars visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this forum on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to report one another, how fervent their QCS posts.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position on the Internet, are challenged by this Alexa traffic rank. Our forum is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

Something Awful is the only forum known so far to harbor goons. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Forums are where we make our stand.

It has been said that posting is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our dead, gay forum. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the UAP thread in the lefist shitposting subforum of Something Awful, the only home we've ever known.

— Carl Sagan

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

holy poo poo

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Petey posted:

okay, it doesn't have the ecological grandeur of Rime's, but here's one of my weird paranormal stories that is 100% true, that I have told many times (I can't remember if on the forums), and I have no explanation for:

i was a freshman in college at the nation's oldest — and legendarily haunted, i learned later — public university. the music building was next door to my dorm. i was lonely, and often went there to play in the piano rooms, trying to teach myself how to play a song about a dead girl.

late one friday night, i heard someone else practicing in a piano room on the other side of the wall. they were really going at it, angry angry classical. as i was packing up to go, i walked around, figuring i'd make a joke about a couple of dorks playing piano late on a friday night instead of partying.

the lights on that half of the room were off. so were the lights inside the specific piano practice room where the piano continued to thunder. there was a glass window in the door about a foot tall and six inches wide. there was visibly no one inside. the cover was down on the keys. the piano continued to play.

I went there too for undergrad and the creepiest experience I had was in a cemetery a bit off campus. was walking through late at night with some pals, sticking to the paths because gently caress going off of em in the dark, we may or may not have been stoned. I'm looking around and what at first seems to be a particularly spooky grave marker of a hooded statue, maybe an angel or whatever, resolves after a second to really look like an actual person in a hooded robe standing there. it's maybe 30 or 40 feet away out where the graves are.

I'm spooked and kinda pause looking at the thing and it's not moving at all so ok, it's a statue, creepy but OK.

that's when I notice that it isn't the only one. on both sides there are similar looking figures, not evenly spaced out like you'd expect the graves to be but all around the area, one partially behind a tree. there's maybe 6 or 7 in total that I could see.

I got freaked the gently caress out and said we needed to leave and pointed my friends' eyes the same way. we were outta there maybe 2 minutes later.

I went back to that graveyard during the day later and nope, no statues there. maybe it was shadows and weed, maybe it was some secret society larping. maybe the cemetery hooded guy was the one playing piano angrily. alls I know is that campus and town is pretty fuckin creepy at night.

munce
Oct 23, 2010

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defence Region
December 2000
https://webarchive.nationalarchives...fenceRegion.htm

A previously secret report now available in the UK national archives. Some interesting points.

- UAP are real and occur daily, world wide
- Many kinds of lights/shapes reported
- Extreme speed, maneouverability, hovering etc
- UK actively collected reports and had a database at least 30 years long (as of 2000)

Then goes on to blame it all on on misidentifications of normal objects, or new not yet understood atmospheric phenomena/plasmas, like this:
"Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems that a field with, as yet, undetermined characteristics, can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, such that, depending on the viewing aspect, the intervening space between them forms an area (viewed as a shape, often triangular), from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been reported as black 'craft', often triangular and even up to hundreds of feet in length."

Nothing to see move along birdbrains. Anyway its an interesting read and i've only read the executive summary. The whole thing is huge and includes loads of reports as appendices.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

That would certainly be an as yet unknown phenomena. "An area from which the reflection of light does not occur" would be about as extraordinary as aliens; wouldn't it would imply it's possible to make cloaking devices?

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Rime posted:

Not much else to elaborate.

Something followed me down the valley from the sub-alpine for multiple days, I had my hackles up the entire time and kept half-hearing things too rhythmic to be random wildlife, and every night at exactly 7pm it very audibly broke a tree and knocked it over. The first night I thought it was just a bear, because that's a thing they do (They'll forage rotten trees for grubs at the base), but a grizzly would not follow me for four days down the valley bottom across all those deep river ravines and then gently caress with me at the exact same time of day. Running into four bears breaking exactly one tree and not making any other noise or investigating my camp would be bizarre. Four trees all calling it quits at the same time of day, 40+km apart, defies reason.

I've had multiple run-in's and stalking incidents with Cougars, over the years, this definitely was not a Cougar. A cougar would have just fuckin' ambushed from above and eaten me by day two if it was that desperate.

I don't assign this to any particular cryptid or woo-woo related to the First Nations ritual usage of the terrain - because I have no visual or other evidence of what it was - but a decade of turning it over in my head has allowed me to rule out most natural causes I can think of. All I know is something absolutely followed me and poo poo felt extremely weird and "off" in that valley that week, in a way which has never repeated on the other trips I've done into the same area in the years since. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

This was up near the northern end of what is considered the "hotbed" of Sasquatch activity in the PNW, up around the Harrison Lake / Lillooet River, in a valley which has never had any industrial activity in it and the First Nations never built settlements in despite the richness of it. So the mind likes to wander, but I firmly do not believe that Sasquatch exists, certainly not in this century.

Why? Because I've flown over too much of BC and seen the staggering extent of the clearcuts and string roads from the air, seen logging in terrain so remote and extreme you couldn't believe it could be profitable. The Cariboo are going extinct from this poo poo, a man-sized mammal isn't hiding out there.

I'll defer to your expertise in the area, but it seems to me as if a primate with the intelligence ascribed to bigfoot wouldn't have any trouble staying clear of those operations. Anybody cutting a road through that wilderness is going to be able to be noticed from several miles away and the same for any active logging site.

If you had the survival skills and were given an assignment to live in that area for several years while avoiding all human contact don't you think you could do so?

I grew up in the middle of nowhere Texas and have spent a lot of time in the wilderness hunting, hiking, camping, etc and in all those years there are many species I know are there that I've never seen or even seen sign of.

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

D-Pad posted:

If you had the survival skills and were given an assignment to live in that area for several years while avoiding all human contact don't you think you could do so?

I’ve lived in BC all my life and to echo Rime’s statements, there is simultaneously an amazingly vast expanse of unsettled territory here at a scale unimaginable in most of the world, and industrial incursions spread across its entirety from the deepest most secluded valleys to the tops of mountains.

Could a sufficiently skilled and equipped human or small group of humans avoid all human contact if they really wanted? Probably, for a while at least, but a large primate species that would have to exist at least in the thousands managing to avoid not only direct human contact but also leaving any indirect traces of their existence? Far be it from me to say ‘impossible’ in the UAP thread but the secret large mammal hypothesis is not likely.

Then again, people have been seeing them for a thousand or more years in spite of a complete lack of material evidence, so maybe there’s something there.

And yea the PNW is pretty heavily represented here it seems!

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