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bobjr posted:Could the traitor thing be a sleeper agent type deal, where even they don’t know about it? It might fit better if they had no idea they were set up for being a traitor. I was thinking maybe all for one did some kinda quirk fuckery and he's literally seeing through her body (because light transmission nonsense) and she's none the wiser.
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Hagakure is just an obsessive tweeter and constantly leaves her location on
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Nov 28, 2021 21:08
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Nephthys posted:
Not gonna tell you your perspective is wrong cause it’s all subjective; but this, awkwardly enough, is exactly the reason I’ve been hating the writing recently. Nothing feels like it has any long-term consequence. Mirio gets his powers back and the bullets are basically gone, Shiggy gains and loses his army and power of friendship faster than he gains and loses powers, characters are brought in to further plot then disappear, and Deku changes his character in about 4 chapters? It feels like half-formed ideas being written on the fly right now, and bringing back a plot thread barely touched in a long time isn’t exactly giving me confidence. I feel like the story has been going up and down since Joint Training Arc/MVA, but since the War arc it’s just felt unfocused, kinda like an unprepped GM trying to tell a story. No this isn’t Naruto or Bleach levels of stupid, it just feels very half-baked imo, which makes it more disappointing than outright awful. I just want him to take a month off and actually map out exactly what he wants, I feel like the quick pacing would actually work if everything felt a little more planned out.
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Nov 28, 2021 21:20
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Bad writing is good, because it subverts expectations.
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Nov 28, 2021 21:25
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FartingBedpost posted:Not gonna tell you your perspective is wrong cause it’s all subjective; but this, awkwardly enough, is exactly the reason I’ve been hating the writing recently. Nothing feels like it has any long-term consequence. Mirio gets his powers back and the bullets are basically gone, Shiggy gains and loses his army and power of friendship faster than he gains and loses powers, characters are brought in to further plot then disappear, and Deku changes his character in about 4 chapters? It feels like half-formed ideas being written on the fly right now, and bringing back a plot thread barely touched in a long time isn’t exactly giving me confidence. I feel like the story has been going up and down since Joint Training Arc/MVA, but since the War arc it’s just felt unfocused, kinda like an unprepped GM trying to tell a story. Like everything, it's a Star Wars reference. Taking a page from the sequel trilogy with set-up --> build-up --> anti-climax subversion.
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I've been pretty meh about MHA for a while and don't expect my feelings to change, but I dunno if I'd outright wish cancelation on it.  Well, Hatsume is getting whacked for knowing too much.
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Nov 28, 2021 23:05
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*kicks door open breathlessly* GUYS. TRAITOR! ITS HAPPENING!
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Nov 28, 2021 23:59
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To be honest, I find it very funny that the culmination of the most forgotten plot point is in the most forgotten character. The only funnier person would be Momo.
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Nov 29, 2021 00:14
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Momo might've been exposed as the traitor before succeeding at anything, but it still feels like she outwitted us.
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Nov 29, 2021 00:28
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Probably Magic posted:To be honest, I find it very funny that the culmination of the most forgotten plot point is in the most forgotten character. Every student except Deku, gravity girl, explody guy, icy hot and probably the flash will be the traitors so they can conveniently write out the rest of the students in time for the final fight 
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Nov 29, 2021 00:36
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Hagakure is in a fighting stance in that page because she’s being attacked by the real traitor, Hatsume Mei.
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Nov 29, 2021 00:38
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Hagakure is going to beat up the rest of Class A all by herself, including Deku
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Nov 29, 2021 01:03
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lunar detritus posted:When Aizawa finally uses his quirk on Toru it'll be revealed she's actually Dabi: Touya's half brother and the traitor, neatly tying up all the hanging plot threads Can't wait for the next chapter.
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Nov 29, 2021 01:05
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Hagakure is obviously another Todoroki whose ice refracted her flames and rendered her invisible
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Nov 29, 2021 01:38
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Hagakure is All For One's daughter(and thus Deku's half sister). 
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Nov 29, 2021 01:46
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Rhonne posted:Hagakure is going to beat up the rest of Class A all by herself, including Deku She's going to unceremoniously kill AfO and reveal she's actually the mother of all quirks.
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Nov 29, 2021 02:05
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She’s the glowing baby obviously
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Nov 29, 2021 02:18
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She's doing the opposite of glowing though
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I just saw someone laying out all the foreshadowing for this plotline, and it was surprisingly extensive. (Although the anime cut some of it, making it more difficult to predict). Hagakure wasn't a voter in the class elections, which was about the time the class schedule got stolen. She claimed to be with Shoto during USJ, but he flash-froze the area instantly, which should have shown her outline, and she commented on Ojiro being alone which she had no way to know. She was missing from the student headcount after, like she slipped in separately. (But not in the anime.) She was one of only two students not to know about the Bakugo rescue plan, which 'coincidentally' completely blindsides AfO. Her Int score in the databooks was up there with Deku and Bakugo, but her grades were down with the dumbasses like Mina. She beat Izuku (strong enough to haul around All Might without using his quirk) in the quirk apprehension test, but later supposedly can't do a single pullup once expulsion isn't at stake. Her quirk is the only one that doesn't have an info-box explanation, and Horikoshi actively pointed that out in volume 2, saying he wanted to show her arc "properly". Basically, there's a lot to be suspicious of. It's just been so long since it was relevant that it's easy to forget. And it's now pretty clear that she's been sandbagging hard to avoid suspicion.
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Nov 29, 2021 02:43
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chiasaur11 posted:Basically, there's a lot to be suspicious of. It's just been so long since it was relevant that it's easy to forget. And it's now pretty clear that she's been sandbagging hard to avoid suspicion. Momo: "You mean that's why we lost to Kendo's team!?" Hagakure: "No, no you just suck."
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Nov 29, 2021 02:46
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 It was right there in our face the whole time!
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Nov 29, 2021 02:53
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It's really less that Hagakure doesn't make sense as the traitor and more that I don't care about her being the traitor because I've never been given a reason to care about her at all.
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Nov 29, 2021 02:59
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wokow6 posted:Yeah, I've pretty much enjoyed all of these arcs except the Star one. Also, I'm reserving judgment on the traitor arc until it's actually gotten underway. I mean, if the next arc actually puts the focus on the 1A side characters who haven’t really had any real spotlight time in years, that could be pretty cool.
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Nov 29, 2021 03:00
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Ironically, Hagakure is a red herring so nobody suspects the real traitor, Eraserhead.
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Nov 29, 2021 03:20
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All Might and All for One have been in cahoots the entire time!
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Nov 29, 2021 03:28
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christmas boots posted:All Might and All for One have been in cahoots the entire time! It's an elaborate plot to force the real traitor into the light: Inko Midoriya.
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Nov 29, 2021 03:35
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christmas boots posted:All Might and All for One have been in cahoots the entire time! Is he a fan of American Gods?
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Nov 29, 2021 03:45
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chiasaur11 posted:It's an elaborate plot to force the real traitor into the light: Inko Midoriya. The reason her physical appearance changed so much is because she's a nomu now
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Nov 29, 2021 03:45
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There is some weird degree of retconning reactions where suddenly everyone knew who the traitor was and also nobody cared about that plot anyway when it used to come up literally weekly and people were convinced it was someone else. Like it feels like you can at least see how it plays out before declaring it the worst plot thread ever.
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Nov 29, 2021 03:55
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Literal years ago I was pretty sure it was either Hagekure or Monoma if it wasn't someone completely out of left field.
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Nov 29, 2021 04:07
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It’s garbage because it means my headcanon is wrong, so
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Nov 29, 2021 04:09
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I do hope the traitor plot isn't "Hagakure forced into it or All For One will kill her family/loved ones, but Deku and Class 1A promise to beat him so that won't happen, so she doesn't traitor everyone", mostly because it's kind of too late to do that plot, and also wouldn't have much of a point at the end of the day. Granted I also don't know what a focus on it now would even be long term. If it's dealt with really quickly and without consequence then you have to wonder why it was even done, so it does need to be a big team shaking event I think to really be done well.
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Nov 29, 2021 04:22
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Even though each arc since My Villain Academia seems to swerve away from the plot point that I feel would be more interesting I don't think they've been outright terrible (except Star and Stripe, that was bad, and you can't convince me she was a real character by having them talk like they remember her fondly). If this arc leans too heavily on how sad it is to see barely-a-character Hagakure betray the class I don't think it'll work, but there's still plenty of time to see where things go. Personally I think it'd be funny if she's just played completely deviously but has no useful intel for AFO.
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Nov 29, 2021 05:55
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Hagakure isn't deliberately feeding intel to All for One, she's just been sharing every thing that happens with her pen pal who is also a Japanese high school girl that wants to be a hero. Little did she know that it was merely All for One pretending to be a teenage girl the entire time.
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Nov 29, 2021 06:04
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I half wonder whether Hagakure wasn't simply just a traitor/spy AFO placed into UA, but actually someone that AFO assigned to watch Izuku Midoriya, in particular, independent of whether or not he received One for All.
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chiasaur11 posted:I just saw someone laying out all the foreshadowing for this plotline, and it was surprisingly extensive. (Although the anime cut some of it, making it more difficult to predict). Going off those two The fact that the USJ villains weren't aware of her classmates' quirks means she might have protected them in a way. When the students are separated by Kurogiri she's on the opposite side of Shoto when they're teleported. Also, Aoyama was the only other person unaccounted for and he brought attention to the fact that no one knew where he was but that it was a secret. He might not be able to say what he knows but I feel like there's something between the two. It's fun to think about. I wonder if AFO gave her an invisibility Quirk and she's similar to Spinner or just a Nomu of some sort. If Toga hadn't shown up this chapter I would have suspected a kill and replace. RareAcumen posted:Ironically, Hagakure is a red herring so nobody suspects the real traitor, Eraserhead. I still don't trust Nezu. FireWorksWell fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 07:19
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Aoyama should only be the spy if we're treated to multiple panels of flashback where he's hinting at or outright admitting to it in front of everyone and they're not paying attention.
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Nov 29, 2021 07:26
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Oh, I don't think he's the spy, but I'm hoping he's just running interference in the background since he's onto Toru's poo poo.
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Nov 29, 2021 07:29
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AFO has the best blackmail material possible: Hagakure's baby photos.
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If Hagakure is just straight-up the traitor I hope there isn't a deep motive. I hope she's just an absolute evil prick and there's no way to power of friendship it away. Also, the true reveal should be that she hasn't even been naked the whole time. It was just a lie to make Aizawa not use his quirk on her (if she's a Nomu this would expose her immediately).
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