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Watched the first episode of the Watch and it's so bizarre it's honestly hard for me to judge weather it's bad or not. It's looks like something from the nineties with added dirt. The bit about the goblins talking about how poor their working conditions are in a language no one understands was genuinely funny though.
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Alhazred posted:Watched the first episode of the Watch and it's so bizarre it's honestly hard for me to judge weather it's bad or not. It's looks like something from the nineties with added dirt. The bit about the goblins talking about how poor their working conditions are in a language no one understands was genuinely funny though. I ended up watching most of it, and the sad part is, the parts which were pure inventions for the show (the goblin socialists, the weird Guild of Assassins personalities) were actually pretty good, it's just that every time they tried to adapt a Pratchettism if fell flat on its face. The terrible irony is, if they had just tried to make an original fantasy-punk police show, it'd probably be a fondly remember cult classic.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I ended up watching most of it, and the sad part is, the parts which were pure inventions for the show (the goblin socialists, the weird Guild of Assassins personalities) were actually pretty good, it's just that every time they tried to adapt a Pratchettism if fell flat on its face. The show has some fun parts, like the archchancellor's spells backfiring (making it impossible for him to curse and a typewriter that explodes if you hit the y button) but also some things that are just baffling. Like, Carrot is sent away because he's too tall for the dwarf society. Then we meet Cheery who is even taller and explains it away with that dwarfs comes in all sizes and that it's not really a problem. And the way Detritus dies seems like a piss take. He barely has any character development and dies at the start of the second episode. Despite being made out of stone all it takes is one crossbow bolt.
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Nov 21, 2021 15:31
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Alhazred posted:The show has some fun parts, like the archchancellor's spells backfiring (making it impossible for him to curse and a typewriter that explodes if you hit the y button) but also some things that are just baffling. Like, Carrot is sent away because he's too tall for the dwarf society. Then we meet Cheery who is even taller and explains it away with that dwarfs comes in all sizes and that it's not really a problem. And the way Detritus dies seems like a piss take. He barely has any character development and dies at the start of the second episode. Despite being made out of stone all it takes is one crossbow bolt. They killed Detritus?!
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Nov 22, 2021 03:22
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I got someone to buy a Discworld book at my job today. Feels good
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Nov 22, 2021 03:31
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Tooter posted:They killed Detritus?! Yes. Unfortunately the crossbow he was shot with was poisoned with WeDontHaveTheBudgetForCGI-ium.
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Nov 22, 2021 04:09
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Kiddo lost a tooth and the Bone Litch is leaving her a copy of Hogfather so we can read it heading up to Christmas. We finished "Gaurds Gaurds" last night. I really liked this one, its mostly it's own story and there are arent a whole lot of characters so I dont have to make up a bunch of voices.
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Nov 22, 2021 04:13
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Tooter posted:They killed Detritus?! In dramatic slow motion while "Where Is My Mind?" by the Pixies played, no less. It's where I stopped watching.
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Nov 22, 2021 05:14
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Kiddo lost a tooth and the Bone Litch is leaving her a copy of Hogfather so we can read it heading up to Christmas. 1. Lich 2. Teeth aren't bones 3. Guards This has been a pedant post.
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Nov 22, 2021 08:02
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Kiddo lost a tooth and the Bone Litch is leaving her a copy of Hogfather so we can read it heading up to Christmas. Hogfather's got a pretty large cast, prepare yourself
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Nov 22, 2021 08:34
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GodFish posted:Hogfather's got a pretty large cast, prepare yourself Prepare yourself for Death! (and also Albert)
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Nov 22, 2021 11:01
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It's pronounced Tea-ah-time-uh! I might have gotten that wrong, it's been a while
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Nov 22, 2021 11:50
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Narsham posted:Serafinowicz has a bit more expressiveness, which does work for me, but I agree, the heaviness just isn't present. Not as sepulchral as the other Death versions. Then again, I wouldn't want to compete with Ian Richardson or Christopher Lee, so taking a different approach is pretty much the only alternative. Yeah, he's never going to be Christopher Lee, so better that he lean into his own voice.
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Nov 28, 2021 02:22
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I have been reading these books for the better part of 20 years, Death is my favorite series, and I just now realized that Pratchett named them the Auditors because of the only two inevitable things: death, and taxes. Goddamnit, Terry.
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Nov 28, 2021 07:44
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Kestral posted:I have been reading these books for the better part of 20 years, Death is my favorite series, and I just now realized that Pratchett named them the Auditors because of the only two inevitable things: death, and taxes. asfkas;dlfkjasfkjasfd;lksdflkjasfkjas'dflkj How'd I miss that one?
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Kestral posted:I have been reading these books for the better part of 20 years, Death is my favorite series, and I just now realized that Pratchett named them the Auditors because of the only two inevitable things: death, and taxes. Bloody hell, I never caught that either.
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Nov 28, 2021 19:12
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Miss Flitworth pretty much spells it out multiple times in Reaper Man.
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quote:On the other hand, a gag that no-one's ever said they've got is the Patrician's name, Lord Vetinari. I always think of the Patrician as a vaguely Florentine prince, a sort of Machiavelli and Robespierre rolled into one. And of course there was Medici. So I thought if you had the Medici then you would have the Dentistri and the Vetinari. The Discworld is full of things which don't look like gags but are gags if only you can work out what the intervening step is which I haven't given. One person's obvious resonance is another person's lateral leap.
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Nov 29, 2021 02:55
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Which is spelled out by the nickname Dog-botherer in Night Watch
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Nov 29, 2021 10:24
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Total Meatlove posted:Which is spelled out by the nickname Dog-botherer in Night Watch And the reaction of Angua's family to the name in Fifth Elephant.
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Nov 29, 2021 13:32
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I keep watching the Watch because the show actually have some good ideas and funny bits. But I also can't stop wondering this is for. It won't work for people that isn't familiar with Pratchett because a lot of the stuff in the show kinda requires knowledge of the setting, but at the same time so much is changed that I guess a lot of Discworld fans will feel alienated.
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Nov 29, 2021 16:33
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Alhazred posted:I keep watching the Watch because the show actually have some good ideas and funny bits. But I also can't stop wondering this is for. It won't work for people that isn't familiar with Pratchett because a lot of the stuff in the show kinda requires knowledge of the setting, but at the same time so much is changed that I guess a lot of Discworld fans will feel alienated. For a scary second there I thought your phrasing "keep watching" meant that the show was actually renewed for a second season. My wife and I hate-watched our way through it, but I couldn't recommend that hot mess to anyone.
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Nov 29, 2021 16:49
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Dave Syndrome posted:For a scary second there I thought your phrasing "keep watching" meant that the show was actually renewed for a second season. Hate-watching is the only way to describe it. Surely it will never be renewed?
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Nov 29, 2021 16:57
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Dave Syndrome posted:My wife and I hate-watched our way through it, but I couldn't recommend that hot mess to anyone. I will never understand hate-watching. That's three and a half hour you could watch something you actually enjoy. Andoman posted:Hate-watching is the only way to describe it. Surely it will never be renewed? Well, if enough people hate-watches it...
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Nov 29, 2021 17:34
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Alhazred posted:I will never understand hate-watching. That's three and a half hour you could watch something you actually enjoy. In my case it was a mix of morbid fascination and a misplaced hope that it would get better.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:57
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Andoman posted:In my case it was a mix of morbid fascination and a misplaced hope that it would get better. That's probably a much more appropriate way to describe what happened to us as well. Also, we're both huge Pratchett fans (we fell in love during a stage production of Wyrd Sisters, with me playing Death and my wife playing Nanny Ogg) and have watched every adaptation of his works so far, so it felt wrong to leave one out.
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Nov 29, 2021 20:28
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That’s a relationship dynamic and a half
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Dave Syndrome posted:That's probably a much more appropriate way to describe what happened to us as well. Also, we're both huge Pratchett fans (we fell in love during a stage production of Wyrd Sisters, with me playing Death and my wife playing Nanny Ogg) and have watched every adaptation of his works so far, so it felt wrong to leave one out. 
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Dave Syndrome posted:That's probably a much more appropriate way to describe what happened to us as well. Also, we're both huge Pratchett fans (we fell in love during a stage production of Wyrd Sisters, with me playing Death and my wife playing Nanny Ogg) and have watched every adaptation of his works so far, so it felt wrong to leave one out. I think that was the biggest issue for me is that the other TP adaptions have been of a pretty high standard and so I went into this one with, it turns out, unrealistically high expectations - it made it a double whammie of a rubbish series and a massive disappointment at the same time. Out of curiosity, if y'all had a magic wand what TP would you like to see adapted to screen next? For me it would be the Bromeliad Trilogy
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Andoman posted:Out of curiosity, if y'all had a magic wand what TP would you like to see adapted to screen next? For me it would be the Bromeliad Trilogy Just so long as they kept the terrifying stop motion style from the 1992 Truckers series.
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Dave Syndrome posted:That's probably a much more appropriate way to describe what happened to us as well. Also, we're both huge Pratchett fans (we fell in love during a stage production of Wyrd Sisters, with me playing Death and my wife playing Nanny Ogg) and have watched every adaptation of his works so far, so it felt wrong to leave one out. Sex, Death, and Rock and Rock and Roll. Well, 2 out of 3, at least. Andoman posted:Out of curiosity, if y'all had a magic wand what TP would you like to see adapted to screen next? For me it would be the Bromeliad Trilogy If it's indeed a magic wand and not a monkey's paw, I would have to choose Small Gods.
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Nov 30, 2021 12:37
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Beachcomber posted:Sex, Death, and Rock and Rock and Roll. Well, 2 out of 3, at least. That isn't bad.
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Andoman posted:Out of curiosity, if y'all had a magic wand what TP would you like to see adapted to screen next? For me it would be the Bromeliad Trilogy This comes up every few pages so I'm just going to quote myself Gravitas Shortfall posted:Of all the series, I think the Witches (including the Aching books) would work best as a live action adaption. Maybe skip Witches Abroad. Just shoot the whole thing in various parts of the UK, which also luckily happens to have a bunch of extremely good old female actors to draw a cast from. Do any studio work in Pinewood or Shepperton, use the London FX houses for the magic, job's a goodun. Gravitas Shortfall posted:Oh, and Miriam Margoyles cameos as Nanny Ogg EDIT: Tell me that this isn't Nanny Ogg, you would be a liar 
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Beachcomber posted:Sex, Death, and Rock and Rock and Roll. Well, 2 out of 3, at least. Strong choice and definitely my favorite stand alone Discworld book.
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Nov 30, 2021 13:46
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Andoman posted:I think that was the biggest issue for me is that the other TP adaptions have been of a pretty high standard and so I went into this one with, it turns out, unrealistically high expectations - it made it a double whammie of a rubbish series and a massive disappointment at the same time. Tiffany Aching series (but maybe hold off on the last one). Nation would be great as a stand-alone but it would be very difficult to shoot live-action and the risk of some bullshit whitewashed casting is very real. (I have still not forgiven the Wizard of Earthsea adaptation.) I’d second the Witches series. Monstrous Regiment is another interesting possibility.
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I'd like to see an adaptation of The Long Earth series.
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I've been reading the Discworld books for the last couple of years off-and-on, it's the first time I've ever read any of them. I'm kicking myself for not having given them a chance when I was in my teens, they would have been my favorite books ever, hands-down. I've mostly read them in publication order for no particular reason, but I skipped over a few to start Soul Music so I would be caught up on the Death books and could read Hogfather at a seasonally-appropriate time. I'm... not really enjoying it. It's maybe only the third book of all of them so far that hasn't grabbed me at all, but it has a lot in common with one of the other two (Moving Pictures) in that I think I just don't enjoy the books that are built largely or entirely on poking fun at or making references to one particular genre or media. I think the humor doesn't play as well for me as it does in more character-centric books. Like the last one I read was Men At Arms, and even though that lampoons police procedurals in a lot of ways, it's still very much about the members of the Watch and even the referential jokes worked better because of who was delivering them and how it related to their character, IMO. Soul Music so far isn't doing it for me, Susan is just kind of there, the band members are pretty blah, it's another Death has a crisis and quits his job story... It doesn't help that Dibbler doesn't really do anything for me either. I'm about a third of the way in but kind of struggling to continue, does the book pick up or change course at all in the near future? (I have no idea what the spoiler policy is in this thread given that most of the books have been out for 30 years so that may be an unnecessary tag, but I figured I'd play it safe.)
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MockingQuantum posted:I've been reading the Discworld books for the last couple of years off-and-on, it's the first time I've ever read any of them. I'm kicking myself for not having given them a chance when I was in my teens, they would have been my favorite books ever, hands-down. If it helps, think of Soul Music more as the first Susan story, as it's her character that really starts to progress from there on. Hogfather and Thief Of Time are very much Susan books, with Death more as a secondary character who needs her to do something. I have a soft spot for Soul Music simply because it's one of the few Pratchetts I had when I was young and I've read it so many times, but I agree the story is a bit of a halfway house between the type of Death story you've described, and the Susan-gets-things-done stories coming up. It also relies on a lot more specialist jokes, as you say - I loved Moving Pictures for the cinema jokes but I know a lot of people who bounced right off them. It's worth sticking with it to get to Hogfather, which isn't a book that repeats the plot theme you've spoilered (very much the opposite, really!). Thief Of Time, which is one of my favourites, is even better.
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Just shortlisted a handful of Discworld books for the store I work at. I wish we could have a bigger section for his works but for some reason his stuff doesn’t sell too well/get new printings like other authors
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