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Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Spangly A posted:

I'm excited to see if Keith and the gang actually think they can fire Rayner, because they're clearly briefing it

They can't fire her as deputy and they must know it.

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Lungboy posted:

Her letter reads like she wanted the whip returned to Corbyn https://twitter.com/CatSmithMP/status/1465287943669657600, but that wasn't why she left, she was kicked out by Starmer.

It says she was offered to remain but is choosing to leave, so she wasn't kicked out. I er... don't think.

But yes I think you are right, she wants Corbyn back in.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

NotJustANumber99 posted:

It says she was offered to remain but is choosing to leave, so she wasn't kicked out. I er... don't think.

True, although the mention of the reshuffle suggests she didn't like what was coming and felt she had to leave.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Starmer is a nonce

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

serious gaylord posted:

Starmer is a nonce

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Have you ever been within a thousand miles of Corbyn?
You're fired.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Not following the reshuffle, is it more humiliation being heaped onto hapless drunken loser (20 pints ahead) Starmer?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

keep punching joe posted:

Not following the reshuffle, is it more humiliation being heaped onto hapless drunken loser (20 pints ahead) Starmer?

It does seem a little like getting narrowly ahead in the polls for the first time has caused them to unseal a big envelope labelled "Purging Phase 2". There's no way this could end in humiliation!

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Lol

https://twitter.com/mrnickharvey/status/1465285032956805124

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


NotJustANumber99 posted:

It says she was offered to remain but is choosing to leave, so she wasn't kicked out. I er... don't think.

But yes I think you are right, she wants Corbyn back in.

There's no doubt about it, the SCG member wants Corbyn readmitted to the PLP

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
The new wizard wheeze to solve the NHS manning crisis:

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1465002206520827909?s=20

Just know this is going to be a classically Tory hosed-up implementation of what could be a decent idea.

Obviously in a better world, the NHS would just have the resources (of whatever sort) to have the staff it needs. In a non-ideal situation, having a 'reserve force' of skilled people to call in times of crisis is not a bad idea. And, directly aping the name of the military reserves, it gives this government and its voter base the warm tingly feelings with its imagery of the Home Guard, Are Boys, National Service and Doing Your Bit and all that.

But I really, really doubt that that Sajid Javid is going to spend money on organisations and infrastructure like the military reserves have - which train people in their chosen field, provide continual skill improvement and career progression and manage regular exercises or deployments to maintain currency (all of which you get paid for). Are IT specialists from outside the NHS going to get sent away on multi-week courses to learn how to use the NHSs systems and how the NHS as a whole works when they join the 'NHS-R' and then get sent on a two week 'deployment' every year for further training and to stay current? I really doubt it.

This is just the usual window-dressing so they can a) say they're doing something about the NHS staff shortage and b) putting part of the blame on all the NHS staff who have retired and left and then not 'signed up to do their bit' when they're provided with the opportunity. It'll either end up as a massive clusterfuck when the NHS finally reaches crisis point and loads of undertrained, underexperienced 'reservists' cause havoc and probably end up killing people through unfortunate but inevitable errors, or (like the military reserves in the early 2000s) the 'pool of people intended to help out in a crisis' end up being routinely used to make up the shortfall of 'regulars' (like when loads of TAs ended up on the front lines in Afghanistan, which is why it's no longer called the TA but the Army Reserve).

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Isomermaid posted:

That word just means whatever they want it to doesn't it
They briefly flirted with 'hard left' for a while, but I suspect that the problem there is that (whether you agree with its summary or not) if you google 'left vs. right wing politics,' the little summary it gives you would almost instantly clarify that left wing politics are good things people want, and right wing politics is for cunts.



Googling 'woke' leads you into a digital trash fire of grifters trying to steal your wallet so they can save you from people and things they made up so they could get mad at them.


BalloonFish posted:

The new wizard wheeze to solve the NHS manning crisis:

https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1465002206520827909?s=20

Just know this is going to be a classically Tory hosed-up implementation of what could be a decent idea.
It's so they can force jobseekers to do portering / admin. If they actually got retired nurses back in, the agencies would pitch a fit.

The funny thing is that the agencies seem to hold the NHS under the kind of grip that everyone fears from a union, but because they're private companies run for profit, Saj can't take a hard stance against them. Even though everyone hates agency nurses.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Looks like the Lib Dems are gaining influence in Honduras:

https://twitter.com/davidrkadler/status/1465327158738317315

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Comrade Fakename posted:

Looks like the Lib Dems are gaining influence in Honduras:

https://twitter.com/davidrkadler/status/1465327158738317315

CIA Winning Here!

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


I'm due to travel on Christmas to see my family in the Czech republic after a long time.

Will see how that goes, but the omicron is not making me happy at all.

e:
I've not spent more than probably 100 hours outside of my rented room this year thanks to remote working and having a lot of work; and I don't even have a partner right now (nor any friends locally for that matter) before anyone gets on my case about it.

I really need the trip to stay sane.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Nov 29, 2021

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Really useful press conference going on right now: the new variant may be a problem, or it may not: nobody really knows yet.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Pistol_Pete posted:

Really useful press conference going on right now: the new variant may be a problem, or it may not: nobody really knows yet.

Is it the standard Patrick Valance "there is no evidence that shows that... Masks work/ventilation works/children are at risk /children can transmit /this is a problem" *(delete as appropriate).

* also data and evidence from non-English speaking countries doesn't count, only data that we have gathered here which in three weeks time will tell us how badly we hosed it again.

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Nov 29, 2021

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

"We think this will scare the money off so we are not going to do anything."

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
LIVE: GOVT SPOKESMAN SAYS "SHUT UP AND DIE, PEASANTS. WE WILL NOT HELP YOU"

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
As I said before we're still *way* too early to be making any kind of confident pronouncements about Omicron and anybody claiming to know the truth - whether it's people telling us that it evades all vaccines and treatments and we need to start welding people into their houses, or that actually it's fantastic because it outcompetes Delta but doesn't kill you - is trying to sell you something.

Beefing up biosecurity *is* a good idea while we wait the couple of weeks (at minimum) we need to work out whether this is the next Plague of Justinian or not, but of course we're doing it in a completely half-arsed way because they're all scared of the Daily Mail.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Pesky North London elite strikes again.

https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1465334020213030920

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Private Speech posted:

I'm due to travel on Christmas to see my family in the Czech republic after a long time.

Will see how that goes, but the omicron is not making me happy at all.

e:
I've not spent more than probably 100 hours outside of my rented room this year thanks to remote working and having a lot of work; and I don't even have a partner right now (nor any friends locally for that matter) before anyone gets on my case about it.

I really need the trip to stay sane.

Survive, any way you can. :fluffy:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

But none of them are in charge of anything

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

goddamnedtwisto posted:

As I said before we're still *way* too early to be making any kind of confident pronouncements about Omicron and anybody claiming to know the truth - whether it's people telling us that it evades all vaccines and treatments and we need to start welding people into their houses, or that actually it's fantastic because it outcompetes Delta but doesn't kill you - is trying to sell you something.

Beefing up biosecurity *is* a good idea while we wait the couple of weeks (at minimum) we need to work out whether this is the next Plague of Justinian or not, but of course we're doing it in a completely half-arsed way because they're all scared of the Daily Mail.

Yeah, I know, I'm just at the stage where I want to say to them: when you know for sure that it's a problem, then you can start with the gloomy press conferences and regretful announcements that Xmas is cancelled, again; just give me a break from it until that point. I hate all the breathless media speculation that I feel compelled to scroll through, 'cos ignoring it makes me even more anxious.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I should be able to get a booster in time for Xmas now, so what's the booster efficacy like at 3 months over 6? Not that it's going to stop me getting it of course, just curious.

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

goddamnedtwisto posted:

As I said before we're still *way* too early to be making any kind of confident pronouncements about Omicron...
Yeah totally, but it does make a vaguely plausable 'reason' why they need to start enforcing the mask mandate a bit more, but not really because of the whole winter surge/NHS stress really doesn't want to have 25% capacity locked up in covid patients. But admitting any hint of that would have political cost, so a new variant to scapegoat is always welcome by the press.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Pistol_Pete posted:

Yeah, I know, I'm just at the stage where I want to say to them: when you know for sure that it's a problem, then you can start with the gloomy press conferences and regretful announcements that Xmas is cancelled, again; just give me a break from it until that point. I hate all the breathless media speculation that I feel compelled to scroll through, 'cos ignoring it makes me even more anxious.
Last time they got mildly critical harrumphing over not giving us enough warning, which to this government is a huge red flag that the press would dare even mildly criticise the government. Probably this is a pre-pre-warning that they might have to do something.

Or they're downplaying it so the big money donors don't panic. Who knows!

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Failed Imagineer posted:

But none of them are in charge of anything

Plus Starmer is "an Islington Lawyer".

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Prediction, government will maintain pandemic status quo for next fortnight and then be forced into hasty lockdown (loving up Xmas again) because the new variant is just as dangerous while also being more transmissible.

Press/public will give them a pass for not introducing travel bans/mask mandate sooner, or doing another soft lockdown to keep the R rate around 1 because no one could possibly predict in hindsight that it would be bad.

Speculation based solely on everything that has happened since March 2020.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

OzyMandrill posted:

Yeah totally, but it does make a vaguely plausable 'reason' why they need to start enforcing the mask mandate a bit more, but not really because of the whole winter surge/NHS stress really doesn't want to have 25% capacity locked up in covid patients. But admitting any hint of that would have political cost, so a new variant to scapegoat is always welcome by the press.

This is my theory too. Sure, omicron could be bad, but it's also a really useful excuse for tightening Covid restrictions before Christmas without admitting that your policy up until this point was the wrong one.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Lungboy posted:

Plus Starmer is "an Islington Lawyer".

He's a Camden lawyer, it's completely different.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

i don't know what this means

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
urururughghrugh keith stawbuhst my fawbur wuhked unna fuctury mehking wutughhghggs ururrghghhgh

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008
The speedy reaction to Omicron is extremely welcome but uncharacteristically ott that it being the scapegoat makes total sense. Like a post I made earlier, Omicron's dangers are theoretical: there seems to currently be less than 200 detected worldwide, it's supposed country of origin is barely at 3000 Beta cases a day and 70% of the population are wholly unvaccinated; take that and dump it onto 40,000 Deltas a day with 88% vaccinated and it just seems strange. But welcome.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Szmitten posted:

But welcome.

not if it needlessly buggers up international travel for xmas it wont be.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Szmitten posted:

The speedy reaction to Omicron is extremely welcome but uncharacteristically ott that it being the scapegoat makes total sense. Like a post I made earlier, Omicron's dangers are theoretical: there seems to currently be less than 200 detected worldwide, it's supposed country of origin is barely at 3000 Beta cases a day and 70% of the population are wholly unvaccinated; take that and dump it onto 40,000 Deltas a day with 88% vaccinated and it just seems strange. But welcome.

While all that is going on π is sneakily moving around with a one month incubation period and a 75% fatality rate that bypasses all the current vaccinations.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Szmitten posted:

The speedy reaction to Omicron is extremely welcome but uncharacteristically ott that it being the scapegoat makes total sense. Like a post I made earlier, Omicron's dangers are theoretical: there seems to currently be less than 200 detected worldwide, it's supposed country of origin is barely at 3000 Beta cases a day and 70% of the population are wholly unvaccinated; take that and dump it onto 40,000 Deltas a day with 88% vaccinated and it just seems strange. But welcome.

I think if you wanted to be cynical about the Omicron reaction, you could notice that all the ongoing stories about Tory corruption and chaos in Downing St have suddenly vanished out of the press.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Just Another Lurker posted:

While all that is going on π is sneakily moving around with a one month incubation period and a 75% fatality rate that bypasses all the current vaccinations.
Uhhh ??? This is just a bad joke or ???

Hallucinogenic Toreador
Nov 21, 2000

Whoooooahh I'd be
Nothin' without you
Baaaaaa-by

Regarde Aduck posted:

i don't know what this means

Those liberal, metropolitan elite types aren't racist enough to be a credible home secretary.

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Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

TACD posted:

Uhhh ??? This is just a bad joke or ???

There is no Pi variant so yes.

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