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Leroy Diplowski posted:Excellent post Ty for that, I really appreciate it In other news a driver actually got what's coming to them quote:An unlicensed driver who escaped justice for years after she deliberately ran down a cyclist, leaving him to die beside a rural Queensland highway, has been sentenced to a decade behind bars. Lol it only took a decade but at least they got her
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Nov 29, 2021 16:52
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cars really are the perfect murder weapon.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:09
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Just follow the law and stop trying to abolish cops, jesus christ. i want to abolish cops and speeding sucker
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Nov 29, 2021 17:12
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its insane how many polygons utica has lost since then
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Nov 29, 2021 17:13
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Cars are like the easiest thing to make safer. it's just plainly obvious how many things we could do to reduce or eliminate their lethality and environmental impact but just refuse to because both society and capitalism loves cars and hates even the mildest inconvenience
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Nov 29, 2021 17:14
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The weird thing is that lot's of things that feel inconvenient when you have a car aren't actually, and you totally stop thinking about them that way when you no longer have one. I used to be like "ugh I can't be bothered to cycle to the shops, I'll drive", now that cycling is my only option it doesn't even feel like I'm missing out if it's raining or something, I just do it (and enjoy it!) because it's part of life
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Nov 29, 2021 17:16
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SPEEDING ISN'T A REAL PROBLEM i scream as i gun the accelerator on my sweet Mustang through a school zone, missing the giggling gaggle of school children holding hands and crossing the street in reflective vests until it's they've been ground to a gruesome paste beneath my tires. SLOWER SPEEDS COULDN'T HAVE PREVENTED THIS. I WAS JUST GOING THE SPEED I PERCEIVED THE ROAD WAS SAFE FOR AND ALL THESE OTHER CARS DRIVING THE POSTED LIMIT ARE SUCKERS
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Nov 29, 2021 17:22
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actionjackson posted:nice posts! I have a couple grocery stores a bit less than a mile away, I was thinking about finding some used bike on craigslist or w/e with platform pedals, I never need to carry more than two bags worth so maybe just panniers in the back? Yeah, panniers as needed. Keeping the weight on the front wheel is a little better from a handling perspective but its not that big of a deal if you're not carrying a ton of stuff.
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Be careful with front panniers, with a bunch of mass up there your center of gravity moves more than you expect when steering.
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Sphyre posted:
  I had to remove the speed lines unfortunately, they didn't look good shrunk down.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:37
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speeding can be enforced with automated cameras placed not just at lights but at random places along the road, and also with road design (narrow lanes, curves, other traffic calming measures), and most importantly by destroying most car infrastructure so its not convenient to drive while replacing it with pedestrian, bike, and transit friendly infrastructure. thank you.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:42
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THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD HAVE DONE, i sob as I scrub the toddler blood out of my 24" grill. I'M JUST AS MUCH AS A VICTIM OF THE BROKEN SYSTEM AS THEY ARE, I screech, wrestling the handheld stop sign (and a fifth-grader's arm) from where they've caught in my rear axle. I BEAR ZERO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY; WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS TO DRIVERS GOING 80 MPH AND TEXTING BEYOND THE WHEEL But seriously, we absolutely do need a fundamental transformation of our street infrastructure. That doesn't mean you or anyone gets a black check to be a reckless sociopath behind the wheel. Pretending otherwise enables those bad actors and feeds narratives against traffic calming measures.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:42
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lol i drive through two school zones when i drop off or pick my son up from daycare, most days i am the only person who actually gets below 20 mph. because these school zones (and, to be clear, the schools themselves) are on a stroad where its normally very easy to get up to 45 mph because its straight and flat and stoplights are far apart. never seen anyone get pulled over. americans are lovely drivers, for sure, but they are enabled by extremely forgiving road infrastructure and minimal enforcement. like i have had a cop speed past me, as in going 40-45 mph, through a school zone, no sirens or anything. nobody cares! i love going the speed limit through it rocks. i got cruise control on bitch you cant make me go any faster!
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Cugel the Clever posted:SPEEDING ISN'T A REAL PROBLEM i scream as i gun the accelerator on my sweet Mustang through a school zone, missing the giggling gaggle of school children holding hands and crossing the street in reflective vests until it's they've been ground to a gruesome paste beneath my tires. SLOWER SPEEDS COULDN'T HAVE PREVENTED THIS. I WAS JUST GOING THE SPEED I PERCEIVED THE ROAD WAS SAFE FOR AND ALL THESE OTHER CARS DRIVING THE POSTED LIMIT ARE SUCKERS even in this embarrassing hyperbolic hypothetical, there is a speed limit and it fails to save anyone's lives lmao Cugel the Clever posted:THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD HAVE DONE, i sob as I scrub the toddler blood out of my 24" grill. I'M JUST AS MUCH AS A VICTIM OF THE BROKEN SYSTEM AS THEY ARE, I screech, wrestling the handheld stop sign (and a fifth-grader's arm) from where they've caught in my rear axle. I BEAR ZERO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY; WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS TO DRIVERS GOING 80 MPH AND TEXTING BEYOND THE WHEEL actually, pretending that stricter traffic enforcement can save lives feeds narratives that systemic reform can be ignored in favor of greater personal responsibility, an excuse city engineers and state legislators have been using for years to not take meaningful action on traffic reform.
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Nov 29, 2021 17:52
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i hate this fugging cager styler of argument. you can do multiple things at once in society so gently caress off
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Nov 29, 2021 17:58
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Rockstar Massacre posted:actually, pretending that stricter traffic enforcement can save lives feeds narratives that systemic reform can be ignored in favor of greater personal responsibility, an excuse city engineers and state legislators have been using for years to not take meaningful action on traffic reform. 100% agree. Can I get some help scraping grandparent blood off my hood?
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Rockstar Massacre posted:even in this embarrassing hyperbolic hypothetical, there is a speed limit and it fails to save anyone's lives lmao You need to both change the infrastructure and the mindset to reach vision zero. That means having a meaningful heart to heart with your buddy who's amped to be roaring through busy streets or your mom whose nose is constantly in her phone about how dangerous their decisions are to themselves and those around them. lobster shirt posted:i love going the speed limit through it rocks. i got cruise control on bitch you cant make me go any faster!  cruise control gets a bad rap in some urbanist circles but I love it. Just set it and forget it, then sit back and focus on responding to conditions on the road. It could not be easier to go the limit or under.
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Peanut President posted:MARTA rules, kill anyone from outside marta range, tia 
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:i hate this fugging cager styler of argument. you can do multiple things at once in society so gently caress off except for having both public transit and automobiles exist simultaneously apparently lol hot cocoa on the couch has issued a correction as of 18:32 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 29, 2021 18:29
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Rockstar Massacre posted:even in this embarrassing hyperbolic hypothetical, there is a speed limit and it fails to save anyone's lives lmao wrong thread for this. this is the pure ideology thread. practical city design ideas and chat goes in the modernizing urban cities thread (did anyone end up making one of those?)
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Nov 29, 2021 18:32
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I've seen so many posts like this, and just did some research on my shithole hometown to gauge how much has been lost to cars. Just found out about a big park with multiple trollies and rail lines which would run from neighboring towns and cities:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe7WfoIHjdY Nowadays, my hometown is most known for being the spot in ct where 91, 691, and RT-15 intersect. People in meriden talk about this as if it's a good thing, but having so much car traffic, and being able to drive other places so quickly, obliterated everything of value in the town. If you ask the residents why meriden sucks nowadays, they'll blame "immigration + outsourcing of jobs" 
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:i hate this fugging cager styler of argument. you can do multiple things at once in society so gently caress off prove it
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Polo-Rican posted:I've seen so many posts like this, and just did some research on my shithole hometown to gauge how much has been lost to cars. Just found out about a big park with multiple trollies and rail lines which would run from neighboring towns and cities: My town was once one of a million little 2-3 town sized RR companies who were connected to the main lines and were locally expanding through 1910. Sometime after that the Pennsylvania RR came into control of most of them and today there's a NS line that doesn't stop a half hour out of town.
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:cops really are the perfect murder weapon.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:wrong thread for this. this is the pure ideology thread. practical city design ideas and chat goes in the modernizing urban cities thread (did anyone end up making one of those?) TBH it shouldn't even be legal to have a personal automobile. but if we're talking about bare minimum reforms to stop people from dying this week. AND in a climate where traffic laws just might as well not even exist then... YES people are going to talk about conceptualizing an authority to prevent those deaths
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Nov 29, 2021 19:59
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automatic speed limit enforcement in cities shouldn’t even be controversial, in suburban residential/school zones as well
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Nov 29, 2021 20:14
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uh no sorry instead we will have to do an exploratory survey for a restriping that might happen 10 years from now. We're helping!!
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Nov 29, 2021 20:16
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cars should also have speed limiters. i understand why engines should be made to be able to go way faster than they need to, but theres no reason to then put a governor on the engine to prevent the car from going too fast. its just the facts.
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Nov 29, 2021 20:19
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These speed limits will ruin my commute!
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Nov 29, 2021 20:22
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In the voice of a transportation wonk: oh so the town selectboard just shot down the restriping that would have happened in 2030, but don't worry we have a bike super highway concept as part of our future 2050 transit plan. We will definitely get to vision zero by then!
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indigi posted:automatic speed limit enforcement in cities shouldn’t even be controversial, in suburban residential/school zones as well we do it for electric scooters lol
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Nov 29, 2021 20:42
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indigi posted:automatic speed limit enforcement in cities shouldn’t even be controversial, in suburban residential/school zones as well Actually, this is racist against me. lobster shirt posted:cars should also have speed limiters. i understand why engines should be made to be able to go way faster than they need to, but theres no reason to then put a governor on the engine to prevent the car from going too fast. its just the facts. And this is ableist against me as well. Come back to the table when you're ready to talk like adults.
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Nov 29, 2021 20:59
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I'm very curious to hear if the folks arguing that enforcing speeding and other traffic rules is counterproductive think about mechanisms like speed limiters. If the criticism is purely one against demanding individual actors not to behave like sociopaths on their own, surely a direct, systemic limitation like that is an admissible solution.
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Nov 29, 2021 21:24
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Cugel the Clever posted:I'm very curious to hear if the folks arguing that enforcing speeding and other traffic rules is counterproductive think about mechanisms like speed limiters. If the criticism is purely one against demanding individual actors not to behave like sociopaths on their own, surely a direct, systemic limitation like that is an admissible solution. it is a great idea and also would be great for fuel economy on highways (and if it happened irl would actually foment revolution which while it would be for the wrong reasons would be cool)
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Nov 29, 2021 21:27
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A speed limiter??! So you're gonna put cops directly into my car to TELL ME WHAT TO DO??? NO THANKS, ADOLF. The only gas chamber THIS guy is going to is a one-way ticket to maximum acceleration
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you wouldnt need a speed limiter if you just made all the roads wider and straighter and free of pesky obstacles like humans
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