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Sagacity posted:Perhaps they did some market research and it seems like an investment that'll pay off to them? In the B2B technology market, there's a lot of weird poo poo that gets sold because it appeals to the top execs who sign the checks and make the purchasing decisions, even though the line employees who'll be forced to use the stuff will absolutely hate it. This Metaverse stuff sounds like the perfect example. The C-levels will love the idea of screwing around in VR during their meetings, at least for a few weeks...and that'll be enough to get them to buy several hundred VR headsets for the whole company along with a year-long subscription to something, regardless of whether it's any use to the people who do actual work. "Is it useful?" and "will top executives buy it?" often have different answers.
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Sagacity posted:Perhaps they did some market research and it seems like an investment that'll pay off to them? Why would this be the first time they do that?
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Nov 27, 2021 18:03
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nachos posted:Metaverse is a solution in search of a problem and is going to be willed into existence for the advertising opportunities More it was willed into existence to try to help cover up Facebooks bad press.
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My call is the B2B aspect is going to be attempting to replace tradeshows and other communal sales situations. No travel means a huge savings for a company and therefore money available for VR. There will be filters for recipients to change everyone's avatar to something they consider respectable (without the other person knowing) so that sales people don't have to converse with dragonload888's penis.
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Nov 27, 2021 18:47
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unknown posted:My call is the B2B aspect is going to be attempting to replace tradeshows and other communal sales situations. No travel means a huge savings for a company and therefore money available for VR. There will be filters for recipients to change everyone's avatar to something they consider respectable (without the other person knowing) so that sales people don't have to converse with dragonload888's penis. And they will call this feature "NFTs" or "No Furry Toons".
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unknown posted:My call is the B2B aspect is going to be attempting to replace tradeshows and other communal sales situations. No travel means a huge savings for a company and therefore money available for VR. There will be filters for recipients to change everyone's avatar to something they consider respectable (without the other person knowing) so that sales people don't have to converse with dragonload888's penis. These programs already exist. Having had to sit through one of these a few years back, it's hell.
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having a filter like that sounds like a bad idea. That means there's literally a different VR reality(lol already having nested reality levels) that an ingroup sees vs another group. Also there's a non zero / 100 chance that someone will fatfinger or forget to enable it and suddenly your very serious biz client sees all the dumbshit. its 0 risk just to have a 1000% sanitized boring zuck/fortnight style avatars. (also some people still dont get how to do basic 101 videochat stuff, if they dont care enough to do it in real life, theyre not going to do it if given the choice/freedom in wacky VR world)
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Main Paineframe posted:In the B2B technology market, there's a lot of weird poo poo that gets sold because it appeals to the top execs who sign the checks and make the purchasing decisions, even though the line employees who'll be forced to use the stuff will absolutely hate it. This Metaverse stuff sounds like the perfect example. The C-levels will love the idea of screwing around in VR during their meetings, at least for a few weeks...and that'll be enough to get them to buy several hundred VR headsets for the whole company along with a year-long subscription to something, regardless of whether it's any use to the people who do actual work. "Is it useful?" and "will top executives buy it?" often have different answers. One year our CEO was really into Yammer for some reason. He wanted everyone to be social so it got sent down the chain and every employee was required to make at least 4 posts or else it would count against you in your yearly review.
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Eh, Yammer isn't *terrible*. We mostly use it for technical questions that someone in the organization probably knows the answers to, but you don't know who or got anyone on hand to ask. Also a slightly more trustworthy facebook marketplace. But lol on Mandatory Social Fun on it.
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unknown posted:My call is the B2B aspect is going to be attempting to replace tradeshows and other communal sales situations. No travel means a huge savings for a company and therefore money available for VR. There will be filters for recipients to change everyone's avatar to something they consider respectable (without the other person knowing) so that sales people don't have to converse with dragonload888's penis. My company held an internal conference with one of these only recently. It was basically Zoom with a lobby, some menus, and gamification. It completely sucked - the A/V was worse than a proper VC platform, the UI added clunkiness to the experience and most people turned off any kind of “enrichment” feature anyway. It didn’t help that it was all browser based Web 3.0 garbage.
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Our corporate yammer is a circle jerk of toxic positivity about whatever dumb new "innovation initiative" upper management has put in place after reading a tech buzzword in a Forbes article. If you ever wondered what happened to those suspiciously cheerful overachieving rich kids with perfect attendance from high school, they are all spending their days on our yammer.
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Our yammer is like 30% obscure design/construction questions getting answered by experts around the world, and 70% people cutting and pasting corporate messaging to each other at their boss's direction (and liking/sharing same).
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There are people using yammer outside of MS? I can't imagine thinking it is a good idea unless you are all in on thought leadership and Microsoft cool aid.
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Mega Comrade posted:The research seemed to be "facebook are doing it, quick copy them" Remember the pivot to video?
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Nov 28, 2021 15:31
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Tech Nightmares: Improved meat probe accuracy
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Remember the pivot to video? Similarly, Remember the pivot to stories? Remember the pivot to the short videos? Remember the pivot to group audio spaces? MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Nov 28, 2021 |
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MiddleOne posted:Similarly, Clubhouse has an issue with the bandwidth it requires. I've done zoom video calls without issues in the same areas where Clubhouse breaks down because of lack of bandwidth.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Remember the pivot to video? Tbf that involved outright fraud
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If facebook's VR poo poo gives us the cool cyberpunk matrix from the 80s and 90s I can't be too mad at it. It won't, but you know, a goon can dream.
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PhazonLink posted:having a filter like that sounds like a bad idea. See also: that guy who couldn't figure out how to turn off the cat face snapchat filter during a Zoom call of legal proceedings
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The cat filter was part of the crapware included in his particular vintage of Dell laptop. Which if anything illustrates the problem better.
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aniviron posted:If facebook's VR poo poo gives us the cool cyberpunk matrix from the 80s and 90s I can't be too mad at it. I'm a facepunk 
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Xarn posted:There are people using yammer outside of MS? I can't imagine thinking it is a good idea unless you are all in on thought leadership and Microsoft cool aid. If they're like any of the last couple places I've worked, Yammer is the "tell the company what an absolutely perfect job it's doing in every way so that the C levels can see what a perfect immaculate job they are doing. And do it in a way that your name and all contact details are right next to it." Also, make it mandatory to have at least one post a week.
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https://twitter.com/tprstly/status/1460023033339551747 https://twitter.com/stillinbeta/status/1456679055562997760
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Play to... earn??
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aka it's a pyramid scheme, where new players fund payouts to older players
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Mods, please rename the thread "Tech Nightmares: Inexplicably this involves the blockchain". And then rename all of SA "mediocre website with 20mb of javascript".
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How are u posted:Play to... earn?? Imagine if there were capped numbers of good items in MMORPGs, and once that cap is hit, the only way to get your hands on those items is to buy them from other people. Also, imagine that instead of using an in-game currency, the game only uses outside currencies like Bitcoin and Etherium or a bespoke cryptocurrency, so it's encouraged to plow real money into buying the currencies necessary to engage in these inter-player sales. Now imagine crypto nerds and MMO poopsockers being able to tell their parents that they're spending eighteen hours a day grinding out MMO items as an investment, and that all that videogame time will surely lead them to massive profits in the player economy. Of course, in the end it boils down to the same dilemma as every other crypto scam - if the whole system is designed around letting early adopters and dedicated devotees hoard up the vast majority of the stuff while forcing later adopters and casual dabblers to buy it from that first gen at a huge markup, well...how many people do you really expect to get in on the bottom rung of Pyramid Scheme: The Game? Play-to-earn is basically play-to-win, except that instead of paying the game maker to not have a miserable experience, you have to pay the older players.
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Inferior Third Season posted:Mods, please rename the thread "Tech Nightmares: Inexplicably this involves the blockchain"..
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Main Paineframe posted:Now imagine crypto nerds and MMO poopsockers being able to tell their parents that they're spending eighteen hours a day grinding out MMO items as an investment, and that all that videogame time will surely lead them to massive profits in the player economy. Which is already happening in the Philippines and Argentina through essentially gold-farming schemes. Except of needing just computer and internet access, you also need someone to stake the initial ~$1500 USD to get started. And of course we've got someone trying to make a Roblox-style scheme work except that it appears they want their content-creator base to pay for every asset, every plot of land, and every gacha-like modifier to participate in their ecosystem. When the thing they're aping already has issues with exploitation, I can't imagine this ever getting off the ground without insane levels of investment from the parent company seeking out partnerships. Just like Atari has (sure, expected from a company pretending to be still doing video games) or brands like the Smurfs (?) and the Care Bears (?????).
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I think GBS's butt thread had an an article from some old man about "what if mario from mario kart was an nft." also is Jack stepping down as birdsite's CEO good or bad? Is it bad because its a sign of them jumping shark like Zuck's recent stuff?
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PhazonLink posted:I think GBS's butt thread had an an article from some old man about "what if mario from mario kart was an nft." It's good because Jack sucks, it's bad because the new CEO was hand-picked by Jack.
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jack doesn't seem to be having a fun time as a ceo so im guessing he's just off to spend more time working on his eating disorder in the woods somewhere
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He wanted to move to Africa and still be CEO a couple of years back .
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Silicon Valley was a documentary.
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Professor Beetus posted:Silicon Valley was a documentary. No Gilfoyle they're secured on the Blockchain and nothing you can do will ever take that away from me. I have right clicked on your jpeg Dinesh. I have your ape Dinesh. Now I am deleting the file. In the time it took you to explain it to me I made a perfect clone of your ape and killed it. In the future this is all our fate. The basilisk will torture us all.
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I chuckled at the 4/134 upthread thinking it was a joke. No there are 100+ posts in that tweet thread. Please dunk on me because I didn’t read all the way to THE ARISTOCRATS. …please?
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PhazonLink posted:I think GBS's butt thread had an an article from some old man about "what if mario from mario kart was an nft." Jack has been an aloof figurehead for years now, he's much more interested in ruining some new thing for everyone
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