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Sapozhnik posted:Well the other problem there is that the eye position in every stock MSFS aircraft is all jacked up and you see maybe an inch of horizon in front of you in level flight even in GA planes. Or you could switch to upper cockpit view and then the viewpoint is too high. The upper view is pretty accurate for me. A guy who’s head rubs on the headliner of most GA airplanes. 
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I ultimately wound up binding up/down and forward/back head position to some of the finger and thumb controls on my TFRP throttle so I could tick the view around when I'm not in VR. I wind up tapping it up in almost every single plane. EDIT: Just broke my Grassmonkey IR tracker headband 
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Sapozhnik posted:Well the other problem there is that the eye position in every stock MSFS aircraft is all jacked up and you see maybe an inch of horizon in front of you in level flight even in GA planes. Or you could switch to upper cockpit view and then the viewpoint is too high. Booster seats are common in Diamonds. The horizon is elusive.
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Yeah, the eyepoints in MSFS are way too low on almost all of the default airplanes. I assume that's down to Asobo wanting to have most of the instrument panel visible by default, and not realizing that seeing over the panel is often handy when taking off or landing.
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There's a slider in the settings that lets you set your default horizontal, vertical, and lateral position relative to the default eyepoint. If you raise the vertical to about 75 or 80 (default is 50) it's a more appropriate position without being super high.
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So I haven't touched MSFS for quite awhile now, but just caught that there's a PMDG made DC-6. That is exactly the kind of plane I wanted to fly all along (along with a DC-3 and MD-80). Anyone have experience with it? Well made and worth the price?
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Natsuumi posted:So I haven't touched MSFS for quite awhile now, but just caught that there's a PMDG made DC-6. That is exactly the kind of plane I wanted to fly all along (along with a DC-3 and MD-80). It’s every bit as good as the PMDG name on the tin would have you believe. It’s a bit heavy on the frame rates for VR, but it’s absolutely gorgeous. Big recommend.
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Natsuumi posted:So I haven't touched MSFS for quite awhile now, but just caught that there's a PMDG made DC-6. That is exactly the kind of plane I wanted to fly all along (along with a DC-3 and MD-80). It's really good, and I think it's on sale on the MSFS marketplace right now. Since most people don't have a full flight engineer panel at home, it's got a really handy "virtual flight engineer" that'll automatically adjust most of the relevant systems to make the workload more reasonable for one person, but you can also run everything manually if you really want to.
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Sagebrush posted:There's a slider in the settings that lets you set your default horizontal, vertical, and lateral position relative to the default eyepoint. If you raise the vertical to about 75 or 80 (default is 50) it's a more appropriate position without being super high. there's WHAT
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Am I the only person who spends the first half hour of any new game digging through the settings menus to see what I can change? Maybe I just do it because all new games come pre-hosed-up these days, with a field of view that's like looking down a toilet paper tube and a mouse Y axis that goes the wrong way. I have to immediately change stuff to make the game playable. I can't imagine someone just starting up a game and clicking play and never messing with the settings. lmao I bet you guys don't even read the manuals that come with every new product you buy.
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Sagebrush posted:Am I the only person who spends the first half hour of any new game digging through the settings menus to see what I can change? Same but because I'm used to having to invert the Y axis in every new game now so I may as well take a peek at the rest of the settings
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Alctel posted:Same but because I'm used to having to invert the Y axis in every new game now so I may as well take a peek at the rest of the settings yeah see they call it "inverted" but it's actually the correct way. goddamn mouthbreathers
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Also the mouse sensitivity and disable as much of the "makes the game look intentionally worse" settings as possible (motion blur, chromatic aberration, etc)
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Sagebrush posted:There's a slider in the settings that lets you set your default horizontal, vertical, and lateral position relative to the default eyepoint. If you raise the vertical to about 75 or 80 (default is 50) it's a more appropriate position without being super high. Sapozhnik posted:there's WHAT there's WHAT EDIT: Actually, to add a question: anyone with the Thrustmaster T.16000m, throttle, and TFRP pedals have suggestions for loving with the sensitivities in the settings to make them more realistic or just generally feel "better"? I kinda figured out that smashing the "Reactivity" slider down for the pedals makes them feel WAY less all-or-nothing, but I'm open to any and all tweaks if you suggest them. Alternatively: are rudder pedals on real GA planes this sensitive? I can barely make fine adjustments without the ball wobbling back and forth. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Real GA rudders are fairly sensitive but the main difference is you can feel the wind resistance through the pedals so you get a more tactile feedback. I've never used sim pedals so I don't know how loose they feel but can you adjust the resistance on the actual unit?
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kemikalkadet posted:Real GA rudders are fairly sensitive but the main difference is you can feel the wind resistance through the pedals so you get a more tactile feedback. I've never used sim pedals so I don't know how loose they feel but can you adjust the resistance on the actual unit? It's actually pretty tight as it is - it seems to be more a problem of even the most subtle of nudges translates into...not even too much, but too SUDDEN movement. I don't (EDIT: think I) have a deadzone set, but I need to tweak it tonight to see if I can make it feel a little smoother. I wish I could use more of the pedals range in a useful way.
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Oh right, you could do that by setting up the sensitivity curves, so like the first 50% of pedal travel only adjusts the rudder by 20% or something then the last 50% adjusts it by the remaining 80%. Something like this:
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For the thrustmaster pedals, take the heel rests off and push the pedals with the ball of your feet where your heel would normally go. You'll get a lot more control that way.
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I should get some pedals but I feel like they're going to slide around a lot on hardwood flooring.
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Sapozhnik posted:I should get some pedals but I feel like they're going to slide around a lot on hardwood flooring. I have a really old set of CH products pedals and the base is heavy enough that it doesn’t move around on my floors at all. Also has some rubber feet on it that help
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Hardwood is probably easier to plan for. Rubber feet are far more reliable in my experience compared to carpet combs. If your gear only has carpet combs then you just need to spring for some rubber feet or rubber wrap. Neither are perfect though which is why rigs ultimately exist.
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I cut my gaming teeth on X-Wing, and then used inverted settings in Half-Life (the first FPS I really played), and have been an inverted user ever since. My brain can't think the other way. I also for some reason adopted EDSF instead of WASD, so I usually remap keys as well. (I don't remember why I did it originally, but it gives me more modifier keys for my pinky to use)BMan posted:Also the mouse sensitivity and disable as much of the "makes the game look intentionally worse" settings as possible (motion blur, chromatic aberration, etc) I also do all of this. I really dislike all these camera effects in modern games... most of the time we're looking out someone's eyes, not a camera lens, and people's eyes do not have film grain or lens flare.
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Sapozhnik posted:I should get some pedals but I feel like they're going to slide around a lot on hardwood flooring. They absolutely do, even with the rubber feet - unless you're gross like me and spit on them. Then, once they were in position, they were pretty much stuck there until I picked it up again weeks later. EDIT: Another problem since the patch: has anyone ever had certain liveries split out into entirely separate (duplicate) planes? My Bonanza, for example, is currently split between one with the default livery as the only option, and the other liveries as the other. I've also got three versions of the Pilatus Porter. Just tried deleting the Bonanza's packages entirely to see what happens as they redownload, so we'll see. EDIT 2: Okay, deleting and redownloading the plane's packages worked - all one plane again. Now to see if I can get my Carenado planes to stop crashing on cockpit load since the update 
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kemikalkadet posted:Real GA rudders are fairly sensitive but the main difference is you can feel the wind resistance through the pedals so you get a more tactile feedback. I've never used sim pedals so I don't know how loose they feel but can you adjust the resistance on the actual unit? It’s basically the worst thing you can imagine. In a real airplane, you control the rudder by pressure on the pedals far more than any sense of how far the pedals have travelled. I’ve not used any of the more expensive sim pedals, but the usual suspects generally have less resistance than real rudder pedals do when the airplane is parked. I’ve frequently wondered whether a load-cell based rudder set might be an improvement over the present situation.
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MrYenko posted:It’s basically the worst thing you can imagine. In a real airplane, you control the rudder by pressure on the pedals far more than any sense of how far the pedals have travelled. I’ve not used any of the more expensive sim pedals, but the usual suspects generally have less resistance than real rudder pedals do when the airplane is parked. Could probably simulate it with force feedback ie belt driven racing wheels or maybe hydraulic like some of the professional grade brake pedals for racing sims. Do the best professional flight sim have force feedback / simulate aerodynamic pressure on controls? I’ve never thought about it.
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Force feedback joysticks have largely disappeared since Microsoft left the market around 2001-02, and apparently part of that is due to a single company that holds a poo poo-ton of patents that probably cover force feedback, so it's not worth trying to either license the technology or fight it out in court to produce a product that's a niche market in a niche market. FFB hardware is also a lot more expensive to engineer and build than a "normal" stick/yoke/pedals, which probably explains why the only FFB hardware on the market (a joystick mount) costs about $1300. Adding to all that, force feedback is tricky to implement in games, and I think there's only 3 or 4 that even support it, and all of them support it differently. Once you get into multi-million dollar flight simulators, the controls all have feedback, but even then, the sims don't fly quite like the airplane does. azflyboy fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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The force feedback patent expired a couple years ago apparently, but the economics and implementation roadblocks still make it something that nobody's really trying. Apparently Honeycomb has expressed interest in making a force feedback yoke, but that's about all I've heard.
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It would have to be Microsoft or the Xplane guy working directly with a manufacturer to figure out what the forcefeedback will be and how to implement it, I would guess. Though it seemed like Microsoft was working with the honeycomb people. Microsoft sent a bunch of the yokes to streamers to show off flight simulator.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The force feedback patent expired a couple years ago apparently, but the economics and implementation roadblocks still make it something that nobody's really trying. Apparently Honeycomb has expressed interest in making a force feedback yoke, but that's about all I've heard. My understanding is that the specific patent on force feedback has expired, but Immersion still has a huge number of active patents for "haptic feedback" that likely include force feedback because they're fairly broad. I know at least one of the companies making force feedback racing wheels still has "licensed from Immersion corporation" on their products, so it seems like the controller industry has decided it's easier to just license the technology than spend the time and money to figure out what is and isn't still under patent.
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Sapozhnik posted:I should get some pedals but I feel like they're going to slide around a lot on hardwood flooring. I use 3m Picture Hanging Command Strips on the bases of my stick and throttle, and the other half on my desk. It's basically like having a couple of pieces of Velcro. Then I can detach them and get them out of the way and I just put my giant mousepad overtop them when I don't want my sticks on my desk. This would work well on hardwood floors too. They're surprisingly strong and don't allow any movement when you put them on strongly.
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I got a piece of scrap wood and cut it to the distance between my wall and my pedals so it just pushes against that and doesn’t move.
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I got a roll of that rubber drawer liner stuff, cut a bit to the size of my pedals, and it does a great job of keeping them from scooting around on my hardwood floors.
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Ohhh...if anyone else is having their 3rd-party planes crash when the cockpit loads in, you're probably a dum dum like me and enabled DX12 thinking it'd be fine. It's not fine. It's not fine. Switching back to DX11 fixed it.
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Allegedly it's an issue with the latest Nvidia driver 497.09 too. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-nvidia-497-09-always-ctd/477825 Also Live Weather is simulating Venus today. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/oat-of-248-c-at-fl285/478029
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JayKay posted:Enhanced Skyscapes for X-Plane is on sale this week for $12 instead of the normal $15. Word of warning, make sure you do the free demo first to see if it works ok. I was having weird strobing effects with the clouds with the Hot Start TBM 900 and the Take Command SR22. Apparently "there's a known AMD driver bug which triggers only with some aircraft (mostly FJS and ini ones)" per their Discord.
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Zero One posted:Allegedly it's an issue with the latest Nvidia driver 497.09 too. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-nvidia-497-09-always-ctd/477825 Oh boy not again with the insane temps
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At this point, it's getting entertaining to watch Asobo continually find new poo poo to break every time they put out an update, but I feel bad for the poor 3rd party developers who have to keep fixing all the poo poo Asobo broke on their products each time an update gets released. Apparently one of the upcoming sim updates will be dedicated 100% to fixing bugs and won't add anything new, so I fully expect that it'll somehow turn off gravity make lift work backwards.
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