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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



sleep with the vicious posted:

Remember when Andrew Cuomo stapled to a wall a bunch of masks that well meaning kids had knitted and donated for a meaningless press conference, and then was commended as a real leader and he wrote a book about his leadership through covid

Lol

with omicron they'll just pin the kids up

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zone
Dec 6, 2016

I would say the people responsible for this farce should be trialed for crimes against humanity, but America doesn't recognize the international court of justice's jurisdiction over its own citizens, so it doesn't matter anyway lol, lmao
:theroni:

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012


That CDC link says "Updated Oct. 25, 2021"

I'm guessing they haven't ever changed the N95 recommendation?

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Lacrosse posted:

What the gently caress they're back to no n95s for the general population?!

hahahahahahahahaha

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


WrasslorMonkey posted:

That CDC link says "Updated Oct. 25, 2021"

I'm guessing they haven't ever changed the N95 recommendation?

They said n95s were OK to use in August iirc

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




Slider posted:

covid would be so much cooler if it had really obvious progressively worse physical symptoms. i'm talking like horrible boils and discolored skin. why does reality have to be so lame

well you do have the potential to end up being strapped down and slowly choking to death, with tubes rammed in your orifices and bruising to the point of your face and dick falling off

but you're not allowed to show that reality to the public so everyone thinks Uncle Buck was gently escorted into god's waiting arms :angel::angel::angel:, not weeks/months of pain culminating with a bloated purple corpse in a meat trailer

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

welp i can't afford to buy new masks, i just upgraded to "doesn't fog my glasses all the time" even :(

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



my favorite part of the n95s for healthcare is the hospitals don't order them or use them lmao lol

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Got into an argument with people online and it ended with me saying:
We should just give South Africa money to set up their healthcare.

The guy responded: I shouldn't be responsible for another country.
I said: We have the largest military in the world, and we go into other countries and say "Give us all your resources, or we kill you."

This forum deserves the credit for those sentences because my brain is infected with your C-spam hive mind.

yore welcum

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


Schmeichy posted:

Congrats on being patient zero for Squirrel Fever

Bearjew posted:

don't worry, it's just a little piss

Looks like Leptospirosis is the major concern here. Great. Excited to be nervous about this for the next couple weeks. :(

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

hahahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Lacrosse posted:

They said n95s were OK to use in August iirc

Could be, but that page doesn't seem to have ever changed the recommendation

https://web.archive.org/web/20210101073130/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20210626140912/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20210901010532/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20210930152110/https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

AppleNippleBOB
May 13, 2007



Fireside Nut posted:

Also, my toddler just went out to play in the snow and immediately got into a bunch of squirrel pee on a bench and then I cleaned him up and got new gloves but I realized I had a pretty fresh cut on my hand :negative: I'm not sure sure if I even want to google this one.

:rip: died with squirrel piss not of squirrel piss.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Anyone wearing ear loop kn95s or whatever needs to switch to these asap, they actually seal https://www.industrialsafetyproducts.com/3m-9210-aura-n95-particulate-respirator-niosh-approved

These have the knit elastic straps rather than the rubber band style sold at homedepot

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Fireside Nut posted:

Looks like Leptospirosis is the major concern here. Great. Excited to be nervous about this for the next couple weeks. :(

worst comes to worst you turn into your avatar, no biggie

"hey kids you lost a parent but you got a zooboomafoo"

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

Lmfao

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Lacrosse posted:

What the gently caress they're back to no n95s for the general population?!

hey it's okay, they clarified to not buy any masks that say SURGICAL on it!!

https://twitter.com/scdhec/status/1465760785687359497?s=20

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
At this point, I just want Omicron to infect some anti-vaxxers I know so they get sick enough to shut the gently caress up but then recover.

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006

Wang Commander posted:

You'd have a civil war with like whole unit military defections over this

Yea it's always amusing when posts demanding the US government do something or complaining about lack of action fail to realize state authority basically no longer exists when it comes to public health.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



lmao

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Google Butt posted:

Anyone wearing ear loop kn95s or whatever needs to switch to these asap, they actually seal https://www.industrialsafetyproducts.com/3m-9210-aura-n95-particulate-respirator-niosh-approved

These have the knit elastic straps rather than the rubber band style sold at homedepot

I don't think they're even shipping stuff out at all. I used that very link as week and for whatever reason they never got around to it at all. Customer service isn't responding to me at all. I'm guessing they're getting really slammed

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry

Louisgod posted:

hey it's okay, they clarified to not buy any masks that say SURGICAL on it!!

https://twitter.com/scdhec/status/1465760785687359497?s=20

Yeah for such a low engagement account that tweet is getting adequately roasted (hopefully by all of us)

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Pillowpants posted:

At this point, I just want Omicron to infect some anti-vaxxers I know so they get sick enough to shut the gently caress up but then recover.

yeah i gotta be honest, having done the whole thing except for the part where you don't wake up again i literally wouldn't wish covid death on my worst enemy who actually ruined my life

it is horrifying and no one deserves to die that way, no matter who they are or what they did. yes, even whomever you're thinking about right now.

but a mild case that just gets people to smarten up? yes, please do get slammed and lie in bed for a week feeling like you're pinned under iron slabs

Cyber Punk 90210
Jan 7, 2004

The War Has Changed

Spergin Morlock posted:

a what now? lol

A bun in the lung

Lansdowne
Dec 28, 2008


down in the replies they're trying to draw a distinction between n95s and "surgical" n95s which apparently have to pass some sort of additional liquids penetration test

at least the cdc page has finally updated to make this specific wording clear instead of sounding like a blanket recommendation against n95s and that graphic is out of date even though they're sharing it today

cdc mask page as of now posted:

Do NOT choose masks that:
* Are specially labeled “surgical” N95 respirators, as those should be prioritized for healthcare personnel

them saying cloth is sufficient remains stupid, but at least whatever weird specific point they were trying to make about reserving n95s is clearer now

Rauros
Aug 25, 2004

wanna go grub thumping?

Fireside Nut posted:

Looks like Leptospirosis is the major concern here. Great. Excited to be nervous about this for the next couple weeks. :(

edit: sorry, just saw the cut on hand part

Rauros fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 30, 2021

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006

Arivia posted:

yeah i gotta be honest, having done the whole thing except for the part where you don't wake up again i literally wouldn't wish covid death on my worst enemy who actually ruined my life

it is horrifying and no one deserves to die that way, no matter who they are or what they did. yes, even whomever you're thinking about right now.

but a mild case that just gets people to smarten up? yes, please do get slammed and lie in bed for a week feeling like you're pinned under iron slabs

Counterpoint: Trump and Miller

Edit: lol just remembered covid nearly killed Trump when he caught it and he still dismissed it as no big deal afterwards. A lot of chuds are incapable of learning because that would be an admission they were wrong.

tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

MAGNetic AttITUDE


mod sassinator posted:

the fact we are halfway into a bad delta surge, and starting a potential omicron surge and there's still no CDC recommendation or mandate that people use N95 or higher masks is loving criminal. just complete abdication of responsibility to public health from all public health officials in charge.

JUST loving TELL PEOPLE TO WEAR BETTER MASKS! THEY'RE AVAILABLE! THEY WORK!

I wore cloth masks for over a year before getting a box of N95s that wrapped around my head, and the difference in seal quality and comfort is like night and day. Getting a dozen of them into the hands of every single person in the country should have been job number one for every government.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Fireside Nut posted:

Also, my toddler just went out to play in the snow and immediately got into a bunch of squirrel pee on a bench and then I cleaned him up and got new gloves but I realized I had a pretty fresh cut on my hand :negative: I'm not sure sure if I even want to google this one.

congrats on the new superhuman squirrel powers

Glumwheels
Jan 25, 2003

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ
Update, found out the same people wanting to visit Adele are going to Belgium this weekend where they had 50k new cases yesterday.

Very smart.

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Louisgod posted:

hey it's okay, they clarified to not buy any masks that say SURGICAL on it!!

https://twitter.com/scdhec/status/1465760785687359497?s=20

Oh good grief, yeah I see that change on the wayback machine now. Why wouldn't you add non-surgical N95's to the left?

nm I know why

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

tinstaach posted:

I wore cloth masks for over a year before getting a box of N95s, and the difference in seal quality and comfort is like night and day. Getting a dozen of them into the hands of every single person in the country should have been job number one for every government.

The USPS was this close to doing exactly this

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
hey thread, i'm also confused about the rules so just to clarify, mine are:

- only trust your respirator
- the government is acting in the interest of capital, not the citizenry

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Vernii posted:

Counterpoint: Trump and Miller

Edit: lol just remembered covid nearly killed Trump when he caught it and he still dismissed it as no big deal afterwards. A lot of chuds are incapable of learning because that would be an admission they were wrong.

genuinely honestly not even them. no one deserves covid death.

e: tbf i am a gentle soul who would also not put the aforementioned person who ruined my life in jail for five years.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fireside Nut posted:

Also, my toddler just went out to play in the snow and immediately got into a bunch of squirrel pee on a bench and then I cleaned him up and got new gloves but I realized I had a pretty fresh cut on my hand :negative: I'm not sure sure if I even want to google this one.

the piss scrape is real

CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK

a_pineapple posted:

Honestly just asking for perspective, but based on some cogitatin' I'm starting to wonder if my understanding of the recommendations were shaped by the information disseminated in this here thread.

The basic recommendations as I've always understood them (and which I've followed and recommended to others) are:
* Wear a mask around people and especially when indoors
* Wash hands frequently especially after touching surfaces others may have touched
* Keep 6 ft from other people whenever possible
* Get vaccinated and boosted as soon as possible
* Avoid "non essential" travel
* Avoid "high risk" places such as gyms, bars, places of worship


edit: forgot one

the problem is that all of those are close-but-no-cigar measures.

Wear A Mask was preceded by don't wear a mask and then was concurrent with don't wear n95s, leading to people wearing lovely cloth masks at best and loving bandanas almost as commonly. cloth masks did Okay, Not Great, Not Terrible against the original virus but do very little against delta (only because it takes more virus to cause infection, they still don't contain it very well), and lol at their chances against omicron. based on the number of friends who are shocked to hear me explain this, i don't think it was ever corrected.

Wash Hands was always a stupid policy based on bad science about droplet sizes from around the time of the 1918 pandemic. china figured out early that it was respiratory and fomite transmission was not how it spreads, and made that publicly known. the cdc, however, continued to focus on droplets (again, based on a number someone made up whole cloth for something entirely unrelated 100 years ago) and ignored the current science in favor of locked in dogma.

Keep 6 ft Away was also based on the incorrect droplet size statistics again, and should have been 25 ft based on what we know about actual physics instead of guesses. but also, it's airborne! stop all the droplets you want, you still have to deal with the airborne aspect. unless you're the cdc, in which case just ignore it.

Get Vaccinated and Boosted is a good policy, aside from access being repeatedly restricted in ways that caused a stupid number of doses to get dumped down the drain instead of giving them to "the wrong people." however, the vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity, so transmission and infection are still entirely possibly, even if somewhat less likely. that would be fine if we were still using non-pharmaceutical intervention, but instead the cdc said masks off. they essentially gave some people a bullet-proof vest and gave them the okay to walk down a firing range. you'll probably survive if you only get hit in the chest, but god help you if someone scores a headshot.

Avoid Non-Essential Travel would be more meaningful if "number go up" were not considered an essential reason to travel. but since it is, let's keep cramming 100 people at a time into small metal tubes with no ventilation for hours and tell a bunch of them not to wear masks.

Avoid "High Risk" Places would once again be more meaningful if there was an actual recognition of risk. instead it's get vaxxed and immediately go huff body odor at Planet Fitness (fitness roni in yo lungs lol)


the entirety of the cdc's response has been making bad calls based on bad science and refusing to correct it until they can no longer deny reality, then shifting the goalposts with the excuse that "we didn't know" because apparently this thread has better access to major medical and scientific journals than they do. the information has been there. from the start, and anyone who tells you it wasn't is a liar or a rube

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
all i hear when someone says "this is for people in medical settings" is "this really works"

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

sleep with the vicious posted:

Remember when Andrew Cuomo stapled to a wall a bunch of masks that well meaning kids had knitted and donated for a meaningless press conference, and then was commended as a real leader and he wrote a book about his leadership through covid

Lol

he wanted to be president and the DNC clearly wanted that as well. oops lol

navigation
Sep 30, 2009

NeonPunk posted:

I don't think they're even shipping stuff out at all. I used that very link as week and for whatever reason they never got around to it at all. Customer service isn't responding to me at all. I'm guessing they're getting really slammed

seems like they are backordered now, that's what my order status says now despite showing in stock when I ordered. checked zoro, same there; which other sites were people using?

tinstaach posted:

I wore cloth masks for over a year before getting a box of N95s, and the difference in seal quality and comfort is like night and day. Getting a dozen of them into the hands of every single person in the country should have been job number one for every government.

biden choosing not to deliver at-home tests and n95 masks to everyone in america is genocide. whenever I talk to someone who doesn't think the US should have done it (and it still could be done) I go completely insane and drift into the sky.

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Vernii posted:

Counterpoint: Trump and Miller

Edit: lol just remembered covid nearly killed Trump when he caught it and he still dismissed it as no big deal afterwards. A lot of chuds are incapable of learning because that would be an admission they were wrong.

remember when he took steroids and they made him want to gently caress literally everyone? lol

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