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Yeah I'd put my union at 95% Republican. It's just what you do when you're a six figure white guy who isn't performatively overeducated
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Barry Foster posted:David Graeber makes this exact argument in Bullshit Jobs, which you should read if you haven't Actually everyone in this forum should read The Dawn of Everything, his new book with David Wengrow. It is mind-blowing and makes his death even more tragic.
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Dec 1, 2021 00:59
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:The pandemic did indeed create those material conditions but the left has spent it hiding from the working class loving this as well. They have decided cozying up to Third Way Clintonite businessmen was a good idea, and we are seeing the results of that atm The biggest Labor Movement in our generation and the political Left is spending it making memes for Biden and fighting culture war poo poo that literally just Dipshit chuds care about.
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Dec 1, 2021 01:00
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Bel Shazar posted:It's sad that even these steps seem to be on the level as time travel or unicorn magic. The best part of those things I mentioned is it doesn't rely on state or local government administration. The masks could be sent out via the postal service, and I imagine the hiring for contact tracers could be done using whatever they already do for the census. They could hire people to take free masks to unhoused communities as well. Hell, I used to operate a pet food bank, I'd love to do something like that.
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Dec 1, 2021 01:00
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TulliusCicero posted:loving this as well. They have decided cozying up to Third Way Clintonite businessmen was a good idea, and we are seeing the results of that atm I mean the Left is over in cspam talking in lingo indistinguishable from the alt right bc if we do anything we get murdered like the Ferguson leaders lmao
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Dec 1, 2021 01:01
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TulliusCicero posted:
We did have some issues here with some unions fighting vaccine mandates tooth and nail. Not all of them and not the ones you'd necessarily expect. Toronto Transit has had noticable service disruptions lately because something like 16% of unionized employees refused vaccination (and are now all on leave pending firing if they don't change their mind soon) and the union is currently fighting to get the mandate overturned. To be honest it's probably encouraging a lot of holdouts to stick it out. From what I recall from another example, when it became clear that the nurses union was fully behind mandatory vaccination and wasn't going to fight the government on it, a lot of the remaining holdouts just sucked it up and got it.
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Dec 1, 2021 01:04
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Wang Commander posted:I mean the Left is over in cspam talking in lingo indistinguishable from the alt right bc if we do anything we get murdered like the Ferguson leaders lmao My bad: I guess I should have clarified the Democratic party "political left" (I know what a joke that is to say, but it's what we got here), and not the grassroots actual left wing people, who want to organize TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 01:07
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TulliusCicero posted:loving this as well. They have decided cozying up to Third Way Clintonite businessmen was a good idea, and we are seeing the results of that atm
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Dec 1, 2021 01:31
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VitalSigns posted:Well rather than do this tiresome "I didn't say that" song and dance why don't you just lay out what you are asserting directly. No, you still won't apologize for your personal attacks, and you don't get to shift the burden to me by reframing a small part of what I've said and ignoring the rest. The person making the claims or anyone else supporting them has the burden of proving them, not anyone else. You're still refusing to deal with clear points in an honest and clear manner. Here's the list again, with a few more thrown in for good measure in bold. Remember that Lion's original claim was "two months" and "it's easy". Solkanar512 posted:Please explain, in detail, how this actually works. You stopped at food production because you think farming is no different than playing Stardew Valley. You didn't consider that this lockdown would be happening in the spring when seed/fertilizer needs to be delivered to farms, fields need to be plowed and sown, livestock is being born and that's before you consider shorter term livestock like chickens. Those people can't be under lockdown, how are you going to keep them safe and how do you prevent them from catching/passing covid-19 onto others? Asking this question is not the same as saying it's impossible. You also didn't address the last bit where I specifically asked "how are people going to eat". Because presumably you need to have grocery delivery for 340 million Americans, so who is going to do that? Those delivery workers, as well as the folks who handle the upstream warehouses and whatnot. Those people can't be under lockdown, how are you going to keep them safe and how do you prevent them from catching/passing covid-19 onto others? Asking this question is not the same as saying it's impossible.
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Dec 1, 2021 01:36
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Wang Commander posted:Yeah I'd put my union at 95% Republican. It's just what you do when you're a six figure white guy who isn't performatively overeducated I’m in a trade union and I would say at my local level it’s 95%. On the International level it’s more Democrat. In a sense, I see it considering 4 of our largest companies are well, multibillion dollar global companies.
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Professor Beetus posted:The point is that if you're offering solutions like "bomb florida" and "destroy christianity" then you might as well be wishing for a magic unicorn to come and save you from Covid. I would prefer people discuss strategies and policies that might actually be doable rather than wishing for a benevolent dictator to come and save them. A couple of things I've mentioned before would be using something like the Defense Production Act to manufacture and distribute high quality N95 or equivalent masks to everyone in the US, or a federal jobs program for contact tracers. Those are things that could be done by the current government if it were actually taking Covid seriously. Also, jokes about military might aside, you could implement fines and push on that front. Places don't close that should for a real lockdown? Heavy fines and a tax audit. Sure, the republicans will scream about it, but monetary punishment has long been a trend that even dumb broke brained libs get behind. Executive orders would eventually get overturned by our garbage SC, but you could do a lot with the pen to help turn things around before they could rule on it. Lockdowns, monthly stimulus for everyone who stays home/shuts down their business while we actually try to stop things, no more travel, and so on. Shut off all aid to countries who don't do the same, for a period of two to three months. It's not that you could get to the China level of a lockdown, but you could go a lot further than we did last time. As for Churches, they regularly break federal law with preaching about who to vote for. Send the IRS, since there's a statue about that and they can be heavily fined over and over.
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Dec 1, 2021 01:52
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Wang Commander posted:I mean the Left is over in cspam talking in lingo indistinguishable from the alt right bc if we do anything we get murdered like the Ferguson leaders lmao black rights got to do marches and organize during this time, you’d think they would also identify themselves as “like Ferguson leaders”.
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Dec 1, 2021 02:06
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:black rights got to do marches and organize during this time, you’d think they would also identify themselves as “like Ferguson leaders”. if "got to" you mean got heavily arrested, targeted, and now tracked. Also, let's give it another year. Comparing the bigger leaders of some of those protests and see if they're still alive. I suspect a large number will have died "tragically".
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Dec 1, 2021 02:09
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Alctel posted:Honestly I just don't know what the gently caress you do when 30% of your country refuses to get vaccinated or take any precautions at all. Idk, what do you think a country would do if 30% of the population refused to pay taxes? probably arrest them
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Dec 1, 2021 02:37
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LionArcher posted:if "got to" you mean got heavily arrested, targeted, and now tracked. Also, let's give it another year. Comparing the bigger leaders of some of those protests and see if they're still alive. I suspect a large number will have died "tragically". Yeah, and they still did things, knowing for a fact that could happen, instead of hiding under a rock.
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Dec 1, 2021 02:41
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:We did have some issues here with some unions fighting vaccine mandates tooth and nail. Not all of them and not the ones you'd necessarily expect. Toronto Transit has had noticable service disruptions lately because something like 16% of unionized employees refused vaccination (and are now all on leave pending firing if they don't change their mind soon) and the union is currently fighting to get the mandate overturned. To be honest it's probably encouraging a lot of holdouts to stick it out. From what I recall from another example, when it became clear that the nurses union was fully behind mandatory vaccination and wasn't going to fight the government on it, a lot of the remaining holdouts just sucked it up and got it. The BC nurses Union originally opposed the vaccine mandate, got absolutely raked over the coals over it, the president stepped down for 'personal reasons' and they then backtracked on it https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-nurses-union-president-resigns-1.6183335 Vasukhani posted:Idk, what do you think a country would do if 30% of the population refused to pay taxes? What, a 1/3 of the country
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Solkanar512 posted:No, you still won't apologize for your personal attacks, and you don't get to shift the burden to me by reframing a small part of what I've said and ignoring the rest. The person making the claims or anyone else supporting them has the burden of proving them, not anyone else. You're still refusing to deal with clear points in an honest and clear manner. The most clear and honest way to deal with your questions is to take them one at a time, so let's start at the beginning. Then we can move on to the next and the next and so on. quote:Explain how you keep food production going. Yes/no: do you honestly believe that an effective lockdown requires stopping food production?
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Alctel posted:The BC nurses Union originally opposed the vaccine mandate, got absolutely raked over the coals over it, the president stepped down for 'personal reasons' and they then backtracked on it Yeah, they'd probably only need to make a small demonstration of force to bring them in line. If they couldn't, well thats real end of USSR type stuff indicating the society is on its way out anyway. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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VitalSigns posted:The most clear and honest way to deal with your questions is to take them one at a time, so let's start at the beginning. Then we can move on to the next and the next and so on. Food production won't have to stop, but food shipping and transportation would be extremely tricky if not impossible. But the biggest obstacle to an effective lockdown, even if the political and public will are both somehow there, is the unhoused population who don't have a place to quarantine in.
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Dec 1, 2021 02:53
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Youth Decay posted:Food production won't have to stop, but food shipping and transportation would be extremely tricky if not impossible. In Melbourne they put them all up in hotels. Easy peasy. The barrier to efficient lockdowns (under Delta at least) is absolutely the essential worker chain. Far too many people on here who WFH have absolutely no clue what it takes to keep a society ticking over long term.
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Dec 1, 2021 03:09
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freebooter posted:In Melbourne they put them all up in hotels. Easy peasy. Worth adding is that China took advantage of what was still a mostly regionalized (if rapidly spreading) epidemic to lock down specific hotspots with tight restrictions and surrounding areas with looser ones with less impact on the country as a whole. Only a small fraction of the country actually had to go full on stop everything lockdown until the cases dropped off far enough. That is something other countries could have emulated in early stages, sure. However, even in China, the logistics would have been much different if they tried it once covid was common everywhere. And as you say, harder still with Delta. Killer robot fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 03:21
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Wang Commander posted:What did the episode say? It focused on the Facebook Files, which were some alleged leaks from an internal source at Facebook. The episode connected the dots between Facebook's business practices and the influence they had on real world events. Overall my takeaway was that Facebook intentionally engineered its platforms to increase engagement (and therefore revenue) regardless of the effects it has on, uh, humanity. Highly recommend a listen. edit: i'm using the word "alleged" here because while I believe they are true, the WSJ published them, and Fuckerberg didn't deny their existence but claimed they were misconstrued, I'm just covering my rear end in case some pedant wants to come in here and play games. a_pineapple fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 03:24
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Killer robot posted:Worth adding is that China took advantage of what was still a mostly regionalized (if rapidly spreading) epidemic to lock down specific hotspots with tight restrictions and surrounding areas with looser ones with less impact on the country as a whole. Only a small fraction of the country actually had to go full on stop everything lockdown until the cases dropped off far enough. That is something other countries could have emulated, sure. Worth noting that this is still how China is managing Covid. Outbreaks still occur. When they do occur, authorities enact strict but highly targeted policies. By keeping them targeted like that, you don't burn out the whole population. Chinese people would get fed up and break rules, too.
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Moderna booster got today.  The worst that I had last time around was a sore arm and a killer headache. I could do without the headache but compared to some other folks I think that's getting off rather light.
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Youth Decay posted:Food production won't have to stop, but food shipping and transportation would be extremely tricky if not impossible. E: hey the cost of solving homelessness is about on the order of the amount Democrats are getting set to spend on tax breaks for blue state McMansions. And they're the good guys! The other team is even worse! VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 04:09
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Vasukhani posted:a better world is possible, you're just being blinded by christianity. Can you actually explain why this would be bad? it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress, i love this forum. the literal "government implanted mind control is good and you dislike it because you went to church" post oh my god i keep rereading it to see if i mistook something but loving no, lol, everyone here is just chillin with the mandated zombify guy. im in a They Live parody where I just put on the glasses and I twist my head left and see this loving post walking down the street, but then i realize the glasses have no lens
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The worst submarine posted:it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress, i love this forum. the literal "government implanted mind control is good and you dislike it because you went to church" post Thats what happens when thread shitters are allowed to just wander back in and engage in bad faith. I can see why people who have the first clue what is going on are driven away from here. If they yell about whatever it is enough and people become tired of engaging, they've successfully brought down the whole thread to a new level.
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The worst submarine posted:it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress Readability does suffer sometimes because i'll start a page and the first handful of posts are by ignored users.
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The worst submarine posted:it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress, i love this forum. the literal "government implanted mind control is good and you dislike it because you went to church" post Okan170 posted:Thats what happens when thread shitters are allowed to just wander back in and engage in bad faith. I can see why people who have the first clue what is going on are driven away from here. If they yell about whatever it is enough and people become tired of engaging, they've successfully brought down the whole thread to a new level. Fun fact: probes longer than 6 hours requested by an IK are subject to admin approval.
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Tarezax posted:How much of that is b/c people have that dude ignored Ding! Of course ignoring is useless when people constantly quote the poo poo.
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The worst submarine posted:it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress, i love this forum. the literal "government implanted mind control is good and you dislike it because you went to church" post
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Oracle posted:Ding! Yep. This is why "just ignore them" is not a viable alternative to proper moderation.
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"why didn't everyone take the bait and launch a multipage derail?? It's bait, and it's hanging right there! You HAVE to take it!"
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Okan170 posted:Thats what happens when thread shitters are allowed to just wander back in and engage in bad faith. I can see why people who have the first clue what is going on are driven away from here. If they yell about whatever it is enough and people become tired of engaging, they've successfully brought down the whole thread to a new level. nonsense, we need people that sound like they're writing dialogue for bad guys in dystopian sci-fi novels. for reasons.
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Tarezax posted:How much of that is b/c people have that dude ignored This is what it is, 100%. Continuing to engage with the guy isn’t a requirement.
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brugroffil posted:"why didn't everyone take the bait and launch a multipage derail?? It's bait, and it's hanging right there! You HAVE to take it!"
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VitalSigns posted:Do you uhhh actually think that the reason nobody bothered to argue with the "vivisection to fill the organ banks" guy over whether mind control is good or bad is because everyone agrees with him that being chipped would be lovely. It was never about that, it's about permitting bodily autonomy. Sorry liberty is such a scary idea. But I get it, gotta keep us alive so they can keep loving milking us (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The worst submarine posted:it has been 5 hours and many posts and not a single person has disagreed with this what the gently caress, i love this forum. the literal "government implanted mind control is good and you dislike it because you went to church" post Nobody's wasting their time on arguing with him, with or without ignore lists, for what I should hope are obvious reasons.
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The worst submarine posted:If you & your pals need more than one post to say its stupid then that's really funny People have been arguing with him all day
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