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I mean, when you run your own school and promotion, yeah, you're going to have a lot of students no matter how long you've been wrestling. Is her point that you don't get to train people if you haven't been wrestling as long as her? She's weirdly obsessed with tenure being equivalent to entitlement, when it demonstrably isn't.
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Mei Suruga has been wrestling for 4 years and most of Gatoh Move/ChocoPro are her students/trainees.
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sticklefifer posted:She's weirdly obsessed with tenure being equivalent to entitlement, when it demonstrably isn't. That one, I don't think is all her, when plenty of the elder statesmen who are all over the indies now that went through the WWE system would have been exposed to that very sort of thing - case in point longer tenured people in WWE getting buttmad because someone further down the card or *clutches pearls* a referee paid out of their own pocket to upgrade their seats. The backstage environment that the old fuddy-duddies look back at with rose-tinted spectacles is in the past, deserves to stay in the past, and the industry is still in the process of moving past that poo poo (although, not as quickly as it should, to be honest. Blackballing POS's like Riddle and Jay Lethal would be a good start), and she's increasingly being left behind. It's honestly loving pathetic that someone in their mid-30s who's been run off from every promotion she's been a part of for poor behaviour is so unwilling to or incapable of doing some self-reflection about their own careers and taking any ownership of their own bullshit.
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fez_machine posted:Mei Suruga has been wrestling for 4 years and most of Gatoh Move/ChocoPro are her students/trainees. oh she crazy.
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sticklefifer posted:I mean, when you run your own school and promotion, yeah, you're going to have a lot of students no matter how long you've been wrestling. Is her point that you don't get to train people if you haven't been wrestling as long as her? She's weirdly obsessed with tenure being equivalent to entitlement, when it demonstrably isn't. people in the comments are also pointing out that Rosa has wrestled many more matches in 7 years than Ivelisse has in 17 lmao
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there's also some potentially very interesting insight from someone who was genuinely awful and has improved rapidly. that's probably some useful perspective for someone trying to teach others how to not suck at wrestling too!
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The Ivelisse situation is objectively very funny. I don’t know if she’s done something actually cancellable, so forgive me, but this is just harmless crank behavior. I hope she never stops.
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edogawa rando posted:That one, I don't think is all her, when plenty of the elder statesmen who are all over the indies now that went through the WWE system would have been exposed to that very sort of thing - case in point longer tenured people in WWE getting buttmad because someone further down the card or *clutches pearls* a referee paid out of their own pocket to upgrade their seats. Dark this week actually had a tiny bit where Paul White and Mark Henry were exasperated that fans wanted pictures with the refs in AEW and seemed bitter. Far more importantly, check this thread: https://twitter.com/fakekinkade/status/1466451207891918857 Great thread to remember to be kind. The gigantic number of wrestler responses is a sight to see.
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sleepwalkers posted:there's also some potentially very interesting insight from someone who was genuinely awful and has improved rapidly. that's probably some useful perspective for someone trying to teach others how to not suck at wrestling too! Seriously. Rosa was Kobra Moon and it wasn't all that long ago in the scheme of things. Her improvement has been astonishing and while that doesn't necessarily automatically equate to her being a good teacher it does mean she has a hell of a perspective and is a valuable role model/aspirational figure.
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Name a greater comedy duo than Lance Storm and Dave Meltzer https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1466550050331389955
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fez_machine posted:Name a greater comedy duo than Lance Storm and Dave Meltzer name a better tsukkomi in the business than lance storm. you can't.
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Based on seniority as measured by number of matches recorded on Cagematch, wrestlers Ivelisse (299 matches) should respect: Emi Sakura - 2147 Hikaru Shida - 1336 Riho - 973 Ryo Mizunami - 885 Awesome Kong - 816 Ruby Soho - 693 Mei Suruga - 423 The Bunny - 415 Leva Bates - 405 Thunder Rosa - 386 Bea Priestley - 324 Wrestlers who should look up to Ivelisse, in order from "roughly her equals" to "begging at her feet for wisdom": Melanie Cruise - 297 Shanna - 285 Kiera Hogan - 283 Serena Deeb - 261 Penelope Ford - 259 Maki Itoh - 259 Yuka Sakazaki - 258 Kris Statlander - 255 Heather Monroe - 246 Nyla Rose - 241 Diamante - 240 Jamie Hayter - 220 Britt Baker - 211 Priscilla Kelly - 195 Christi Jaynes - 184 Tay Conti - 167 Leyla Hirsch - 145 Miranda Alize - 145 Big Swole - 143 Skye Blue - 142 Rebel - 142 Kenzie Paige - 130 KiLynn King - 127 Lulu Pencil - 121 Alex Gracia - 119 Red Velvet - 107 Dani Jordyn - 94 MJ Jenkins - 93 Abadon - 63 Brandi Rhodes - 60 Jazmin Allure - 46 Tesha Price - 45 Cassandra Golden - 42 Anna Jay - 32 Vickie Guerrero - 27 Julia Hart - 26 Jade Cargill - 21
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Edge & Christian posted:The Bunny - 415 
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Edge & Christian posted:Based on seniority as measured by number of matches recorded on Cagematch, wrestlers Ivelisse (299 matches) should respect: Holy poo poo
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It should say something that Jack Evans still tolerates Teddy Hart but can't stand Ivelisse. Maybe Jack has fallen off with Teddy since AEW but he certainly hasn't gone on long twitter rants about Teddy
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Tampa Bae posted:It should say something that Jack Evans still tolerates Teddy Hart but can't stand Ivelisse. Maybe Jack has fallen off with Teddy since AEW but he certainly hasn't gone on long twitter rants about Teddy Wow that does say a lot.
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Holy poo poo lmao
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Shard posted:https://twitter.com/EmiSakura_gtmv/status/1466507935182462979?t=99EQOT3QPn-1yAZTrlyYLg&s=19 Is he doing the Devitt pose or am I losing it?
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Gaz-L posted:Is he doing the Devitt pose or am I losing it? the devitt pose is just the natural state you get into when your grandma asks you to smile for the camera and garcia there is in a very similar situation
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Oil! posted:This and her promotion does a ton of customs, which wouldn't hit Cagematch due to not being released or just being a random YouTube link. Customs are such a weird edge case to count as matches. They're not done in front of an audience, they're not canon, and they're not ticketed, and that's if they're not outright pornography.
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fez_machine posted:Customs are such a weird edge case to count as matches. They're not done in front of an audience, they're not canon, and they're not ticketed, and that's if they're not outright pornography. if there's a ref and a bell it's a match imo maybe some people put a lot of effort into having banger matches for customs, regardless of whether someone is pulling off to it later. could also be good practice. they are, i assume, still doing wrestling moves, even if it is the lou thesz press 10 times in a row
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I mean most of the people in this picture were the future of a wrestling company just not the one intended lol
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:i really wish people would stop using cagematch for anything other than "this match happened" Though it was also a dumb joke, point taken.
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fez_machine posted:Customs are such a weird edge case to count as matches. They're not done in front of an audience, they're not canon, and they're not ticketed, and that's if they're not outright pornography. This reminds me of one of my favorite ever tweets: https://twitter.com/EFFYlives/status/1245425911987605506
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anakha posted:https://twitter.com/bryandanielson/status/1466499794898092035?t=gkS-rURNYGH2V-eX2wu6mA&s=09 It's amazing that Danielson is a good wrestler despite his overwhelming urge to do cock and ball jokes, generally at his expense.
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Unperson_47 posted:Holy poo poo one of my favourite random pieces of trivia is that Emi Sakura had her fourth ever pro match on the card where Cactus Jack won King Of The Deathmatch. And in the opening match on that same card? Yoshihiro Tajiri.
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