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Restarting? No. A draining ordeal of spikes, surges, and variant whack-a-mole lasting well into the 30s? Probably.
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(K)N95 masks are disposable, but not at all single-use. They also aren't expensive, at roughly $1 apiece. https://bonafidemasks.com/kn95-respirator-mask-headband-style-fda-authorized/
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Dec 2, 2021 22:07
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Dog on Fire posted:Mainly to not create so much trash with the single-use masks vOv Hospitalization is bad for the environment. If a hundred thousand N95s keep one person out of the hospital, they have more than offset their own burden.
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withak posted:Pausing for a minute at the Hitler stage is mandatory for anyone shaving off a beard. Hitler mustache is mask friendly, though likely to get you punched in the face if you take the mask off - so extra safe.
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Strep Vote posted:You are so vulnerable when pregnant that I would seriously consider severing from a partner that doesn't take it seriously. He's a great partner otherwise, the main problem is that he thinks he's taking it seriously (and compared to most people he is). I think I need to show him how different my body is in all ways now that I'm pregnant, which includes immune response, receptor sensitivity, etc, and then covid outcomes for pregnant people. It would have more of an impact though if I could show that, even vaccinated, I'm still far more at risk than he is. I've also been far more cautious through all of covid than he has, so he does think I have a level of paranoia that is over the top. Darth TNT posted:I'd need to dig up sources. I was certain I either read in the local news or saw it on some local talk show that (barring edge cases like imuno compromised and people above 50) generally the vaccin was good at keeping a serious infection from happening. Not that you're immune, but that you would generally at least not end up in the hospital any more. it is good at keeping serious infection from happening, but it does still happen. I think you could make an argument that pregnancy leads to a level of immunocompromise, but that would be a harder line to draw. I'll take all the data I can get. Definitely not going to relax my isolating, masking, or anything.
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Lol if you don't wear a KN95 or N95 in a red state
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Dec 2, 2021 22:43
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Hell I don't even live in a state
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Dec 2, 2021 23:13
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Dick Jones posted:Restarting? No. A draining ordeal of spikes, surges, and variant whack-a-mole lasting well into the 30s? Probably. the 30’s, gently caress me
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naem posted:the 30’s, gently caress me By way of comparison the last few pandemics were a couple of years.
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ShadowHawk posted:It's a baseless claim, not "probably" What are the last few pandemics? Swine flu and HIV?
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ShadowHawk posted:It's a baseless claim, not "probably" For example influenza which nobody has heard of since.
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Platystemon posted:What are the last few pandemics? Swine flu and HIV? facebook, twitter, instagram, tiktok
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Platystemon posted:What are the last few pandemics? Swine flu and HIV? Crypto
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If there is sufficient vaccine/immune escape Id say restarting is a fair approximation. Waiting eagerly for dem lab results.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:If there is sufficient vaccine/immune escape Id say restarting is a fair approximation. Waiting eagerly for dem lab results. Very unfair. It’s R0 is way worse than the Wuhan strain (even if no worse than Delta’s), or the mutants with D614G that quickly came out of Europe. The virus is now more stable in the environment, too—at room temperature and above and below. And there’s the whole changed geopolitical situation.
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ShadowHawk posted:It's a baseless claim, not "probably"
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Salt Fish posted:For example influenza which nobody has heard of since.
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ShadowHawk posted:To be clear I'm not saying COVID will go extinct I'm saying it will make that nebulous shift where it becomes a disease to worry about but isn't dominating the medical systems everywhere all the time Based on what selective pressure? Personally I think some C19 PREP equivalent is our only way back to some normalcy.
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Platystemon posted:What are the last few pandemics? Swine flu and HIV? Admittedly I forgot about HIV which is a very different beast due to its incredibly slow progression. Imagine the confusion we'd be in if COVID took years for symptoms to develop
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ShadowHawk posted:Imagine the confusion we'd be in if COVID took years for symptoms to develop we haven't ruled this out yet 
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-02/get-a-booster-now-and-don-t-wait-for-omicron-shot-experts-say "Only Monica Gandhi, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases doctor at the University of California at San Francisco, disagreed" classic Monica Gandhi!
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Is it not feasible to get a booster of the current vaccine now and an omicron-specific one later? Delta's still here, why not get both shots?
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HolHorsejob posted:Is it not feasible to get a booster of the current vaccine now and an omicron-specific one later? Delta's still here, why not get both shots?
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dwarf74 posted:You should absolutely get a booster now if you qualify. Delta is still around (at least for now!) and still a big loving deal regardless of the degree of immune escape for Omicron. Yeah don’t end up with both! Get boosted
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Dec 3, 2021 03:41
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I want every shot. Gimme polio and typhoid and even ones for diseases that only affect livestock. Rabies? Hook me up. Every Covid. I want Pfizer and Moderna and even J&J.
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Beachcomber posted:livestock Reckonin' yer hankerin' for the 'mectin, pardner. 
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Beachcomber posted:I want every shot. Gimme polio and typhoid and even ones for diseases that only affect livestock. You can get an anthrax vaccine. Hepatitis B exists too but it's 3 shots months apart so it's a pain.
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Chief McHeath posted:Reckonin' yer hankerin' for the 'mectin, pardner. No, though I've always had a bit of a fear of parasites.
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Unfortunately, I just recovered from Covid. I got sick around the 18th, and am now on day #2 of back to work. (I quarantined, and got the ok to return) I am still going to get my booster, and thankfully got both my Moderna Vaccines. I'm pretty sure I got it through the break room at work. A few weeks prior to my infection I had changed my eating habits and chose to sit in the break room because I had access to a microwave and a fridge. Not doing that again...
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Bina posted:Unfortunately, I just recovered from Covid. Oof, sorry to hear it. I always eat my lunch on the open dock at my job, or in my car if I drove in. Thankfully, we're pretty good about masking, though a few of my coworkers definitely eat their lunch at their desk in the middle of the room  How's your energy? How far out are you from your second shot?
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Bina posted:Unfortunately, I just recovered from Covid. How bad was the sickness itself?
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dwarf74 posted:You should absolutely get a booster now if you qualify. Delta is still around (at least for now!) and still a big loving deal regardless of the degree of immune escape for Omicron. Everyone qualifies now. If you are over 18 you should get a booster.
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Chief McHeath posted:Reckonin' yer hankerin' for the 'mectin, pardner. god dont joke about that, some of us have legitimate intestinal worm problems
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HolHorsejob posted:Oof, sorry to hear it. I always eat my lunch on the open dock at my job, or in my car if I drove in. Thankfully, we're pretty good about masking, though a few of my coworkers definitely eat their lunch at their desk in the middle of the room I had both of my shots in moderna and I need to schedule my booster. A co-worker yesterday told me that my fatigue is still obvious in my eyes, like I had been through something worse than a regular cold.
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Elea posted:How bad was the sickness itself? It felt like four days of the worst flu you've had in your life. Thankfully, I didn't have any breathing issues, including cough. My main symptoms were chills, fever, lost of taste and smell, and severe congestion/fatigue/soreness. I could barely gather energy to go to the bathroom, and didn't bother eating much the first two days.
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Gio posted:covid is airborne. wear a respirator or rawdog it, theres no point in wearing anything less. Besides the fact that rawdog should either be raw dog, or rawdawg (common grammatical error) I'm not understanding why these two true statements got probated  In a follow up post he pointed out (rightly so) that n95/kn95 are widely available for cheap, so it's not some kind of classist statement. I bought a 20 pack of 3M n95 Aura masks on Amazon the other day for $20, arrived in 48 hours
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Hadlock posted:Besides the fact that rawdog should either be raw dog, or rawdawg (common grammatical error) I'm not understanding why these two true statements got probated Its true that surgical and cloth masks block ballistic droplets and protect others, but anyone trying to breath filtered air should have upgraded by now.
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xposting, here's an "on the ground" story-- I live and work on a Native American reservation. Our vaccination rate continues to be abysmal, around 35%. I've posted about this before, but I attribute the low vaccination rate to apathy and the significant restrictions and lockdown measures we've had continuously since March 2020. Most people here have more pressing concerns in daily life than worrying about a pandemic which doesn't seem to affect them, personally. I was working remotely with a student today who has been quaranting due to lots of exposure. Four of her young children tested positive and have been quite sick; her mother and sister who stopped by before they had symptoms also tested positive and got very ill (kids, mother, sister all unvaccinated). She is vaccinated and has yet to catch COVID despite being quarantined with four young kids who are all positive for a week. She was remarking about how vaccines work and she's glad she got hers, and she's going to be telling people her story and encouraging them to get vaccinated. She herself was not anti-vaxx but rather apathetic and didn't see it as a big deal until my school required it in August, then she got shots. The low vaxx rate is still frustrating but it's a bit of a  moment to see small progress being made. Especially in an isolated community of very marginalized people who have good historical reasons to distrust state/federal government, that sort of word-of-mouth and personal testimony is key.
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Mu Zeta posted:You can get an anthrax vaccine. Hepatitis B exists too but it's 3 shots months apart so it's a pain. Isn't hep b a standard vaccine ? In Canada it is at least
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