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Lin Wood is going nuts on telegram and just doxxed hunter biden and tucker carlson (contact info as of 2014). The reason Carlson was reaching out to Hunter: https://twitter.com/rothschildmd/status/1466563575619600388
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Stultus Maximus posted:The Democrats have given up trying to even get themselves re-elected, why should anyone loving phone bank for them to do anything? Find a group that actually fights, maybe one that can force some action out of the Democrats. Supporting the actual party apparatus is like giving up, but also setting your money on fire at the same time. drat but what group is there that does that? There isn't and this isn't the time to screw around throwing your vote away so that's why you need to vote for Nancy Pelosi
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pretending that the democrats are anything other than a speed bump for our trip to hell is laughably naïve voting doesn't stop fascism
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Guitars stops fascism, duh
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No government shutdown! https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1466594136845336578 until the debt ceiling in two weeks
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Cugel the Clever posted:High gas prices are also a good thing. Good luck convincing terminally car-brained Americans if that, though. Last time gas prices were this nutty people couldn't sell their lovely giant trucks fast enough. I suppose a decade+ of CULTURE WAR has made the idiot class even more intransigent than they used to be and I have no clue if that'll happen again
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Zamujasa posted:voting doesn't stop fascism This is just loving asinine. How do you think Mussolini's original fascists got into power? They got elected. What did the Nazis do? They got elected while the communists and social democrats tore each other to pieces. Voting is often the only defense against fascism, because after they win they pull up the ladder and make it impossible to dislodge them.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Last time gas prices were this nutty people couldn't sell their lovely giant trucks fast enough. I suppose a decade+ of CULTURE WAR has made the idiot class even more intransigent than they used to be and I have no clue if that'll happen again There’s a car shortage so while I’m sure a lot of people are regretting their F-250 King Ranch Edition, there aren’t a lot of affordable options to replace them.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is just loving asinine. How do you think Mussolini's original fascists got into power? They got elected. What did the Nazis do? They got elected while the communists and social democrats tore each other to pieces. Voting is often the only defense against fascism, because after they win they pull up the ladder and make it impossible to dislodge them. Worth noting in the Nazis case: They were going to LOSE the election, Hindenburg and the Reichstag thought they could control Hitler and the Nazis by giving them power, which was loving stupid. Then Hindenburg sat back and let the Nazis burn the Reichstag and pass the enabling act.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is just loving asinine. How do you think Mussolini's original fascists got into power? They got elected. What did the Nazis do? They got elected while the communists and social democrats tore each other to pieces. Voting is often the only defense against fascism, because after they win they pull up the ladder and make it impossible to dislodge them. yes, exactly
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Zamujasa posted:yes, exactly Which is why you don't let them get into power in the first place when your vote still loving matters
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I'm afraid I have some bad news about the US, then E: specifically the constant and continual erosion of civil rights, incl. voting rights.
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Zamujasa posted:I'm afraid I have some bad news about the US, then We still have elections that matter and it's bullshit to say otherwise.
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Like, is poo poo bad now? Absolutely. But many things still have the capacity to get better. But they'll only get better if people remain engaged and, yes, vote - because the alternative is that the fascists get into power and make things a whole hell of a lot worse for a whole hell of a lot of people, and at this point they're not going to let themselves get voted out.
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Saying that elections don't matter right now directly feeds into fascist victories. If they didn't, the fash wouldn't be trying so loving hard to keep their opponents from voting. Some folks on the left are so eager to demarcate themselves from liberals that they'll fall for blatant fash psyops intended to undermine their opposition.
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Attn: Duzzy Funlop, the cops are onto your fuzzy bug scheme.
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I'm not saying that voting doesn't matter, it absolutely does. I'm just saying that it is not going to stop what's going on. It'll slow it down, maybe it'll give the US time to somehow unfuck itself, but no amount of checking boxes next to (D)s is going to solve things when we've allowed the system to get as corrupt as it has. Money buys politicians and the wealthiest and shittiest have been getting more of that faster than we've been getting votes.
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The problem with US politics is that the Republicans are willing to do anything to win, up to and including supporting a failed coup attempt now (or denying it was anything more than some "very patriotic people who just wanted to be heard"), whereas the Democratic leadership has decided that their only winning strategy is waiting for populist waves to carry them to occasional majorities. ...which they promptly squander, in the past due to "bipartisanship" and now because of active dysfunction, infighting, and overtly blatant sabotage. Nothing will ever get done in this country if we have to wait 12-16 loving years for every major sociopolitical shift. I used to envy the Parliamentary system because at least with Prime Ministers there's someone who has to ~go away~ when government ceases working, but now even THAT'S hosed.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is just loving asinine. How do you think Mussolini's original fascists got into power? They got elected. What did the Nazis do? They got elected while the communists and social democrats tore each other to pieces. Voting is often the only defense against fascism, because after they win they pull up the ladder and make it impossible to dislodge them. Okay, your two examples, how did they get out of power?
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CainFortea posted:Okay, your two examples, how did they get out of power? Well, in Mussolini's case he hung out at a gas station, just straight chillin'.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:We still have elections that matter and it's bullshit to say otherwise. No we loving don't lmao
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CainFortea posted:Okay, your two examples, how did they get out of power? An apocalyptic war that left tens of millions dead and the continent devastated. Hence the importance of keeping open fascists out of power! Zamujasa posted:I'm not saying that voting doesn't matter, it absolutely does. I'm just saying that it is not going to stop what's going on. It'll slow it down, maybe it'll give the US time to somehow unfuck itself, but no amount of checking boxes next to (D)s is going to solve things when we've allowed the system to get as corrupt as it has. It's absolutely fair to be pessimistic. It's honestly hard not to be these days.
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Zamujasa posted:...maybe it'll give the US time to somehow unfuck itself... The moment the average American citizen feels what it's like to be truly hungry for the first time in their lives is the day we cast all pretense aside of still being a democratic nation, and that moment is coming sooner than we all expect or want it (really looking forward to making friends in line for the grocery store at 3am to have a chance of getting enough food to last the week), and there isn't a goddamned thing either political party can do to stop it. But one of them will be perfectly willing to "make the hard choices" and make the rest of the world suffer in exchange for keeping a privileged populace cowed with some semblance of creature comforts in exchange for their political enshrinement.
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the last president is directly responsible for abortion not being available in about 1/3 of the country and people are still saying elections don't matter because ???? what exactly? The mentality that everything hasn't been fixed so nothing matters is such a lazy and entitled approach to life that it's no wonder that it's taken such deep root in a dying forum for middle aged sadsacks.
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I'm usually pretty sanguine about supporting the lesser of two evils even if there isn't really a good choice, especially given the nature of a two-party system, but it's hard not to be cynical in the face of this perfect encapsulation of absolute loving worthlessness: https://twitter.com/dscc/status/1466085902208450564
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Grip it and rip it posted:the last president is directly responsible for abortion not being available in about 1/3 of the country and people are still saying elections don't matter because ???? what exactly? The mentality that everything hasn't been fixed so nothing matters is such a lazy and entitled approach to life that it's no wonder that it's taken such deep root in a dying forum for middle aged sadsacks. Well now senate dems have a call to action about abortion and the opportunity to show the incredulous what they're willing to attempt to get abortion codified. I doubt yelling "Give us money and vote us into power 2022" is going to prove anything to them and I personally wouldn't be surprised if even a weird D super majority comes about that you wouldn't have random centrist d's navel gazing about decorum and states rights and tyranny of the majority
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Defenestrategy posted:Well now senate dems have a call to action about abortion and the opportunity to show the incredulous what they're willing to attempt to get abortion codified. I doubt yelling "Give us money and vote us into power 2022" is going to prove anything to them and I personally wouldn't be surprised if even a weird D super majority comes about that you wouldn't have random centrist d's navel gazing about decorum and states rights. And the Republicans will be able to pander to their base about accomplishing something they've been working towards for ~50 years while being the "minority party" if/when Roe dies, followed by 20+ individual "victories" in red state after red state. And what's worse, Trump will actually be able to validly claim HE made it happen.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'm usually pretty sanguine about supporting the lesser of two evils even if there isn't really a good choice, especially given the nature of a two-party system, but it's hard not to be cynical in the face of this perfect encapsulation of absolute loving worthlessness: If the "lol, voting don't matter" folks were instead saying "voting is a bare minimum requirement toward effecting meaningful change; work to win hearts and minds; get active locally and make a difference where you can," that would be great! But just griping not only sounds like folks haven't gotten out from behind their computers in far too long, but are actively discouraging others from doing anything to change the situation. The institutional Dems absolutely bear a ton of fault for their failures, it just seems many critiques amount to counterproductive, if cathartic, mockery. Cugel the Clever fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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in case you somehow missed it the democrats currently control the senate (50+1 - 50), house (221-213), and the executive branch. they could, you know, pass abortion rights. right now. e: dems: we control the legislative and executive branches of government. people: great do something with it dems: no
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No, the current split in the Senate is 48D/50R/2O. Manchin and Sinema belong to the Opportunists, a new political party that will be with us in perpetuity until everything burns. It won't be them forever, but rest assured people will follow their example.
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There's always a list of reasons why democrats can't do the things they "really want" to do when they're in power. Strangely, republicans stuffer few of those same constraints when they have their turns in power. Remember when dems were all saying "gee whiz the parlimentarian, a position that you've probably never heard of before and has no actual power, is preventing us from doing what we really want? Aw shucks." That was a classic. The "manchin and sinema are unmovable" excuse relies on the assumption that those two are taking an unshakable, moral stand and can't be bought off, which is a pretty tough one to believe imo. "We need sinema's vote, but doggone, her earnest, genuine principles keep getting in the way. We're stuck!"
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Dems want my vote to protect Roe? Where the gently caress have they been for the last 50 years on protecting Roe? Activists have been screaming about exactly this happening longer than I've been alive. Now I'm supposed to believe they'll do anything? Pick any god drat time you want when they had however many seats you think is the magic amount and let their actions prove what they're worth.
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"A man attended an NHS casualty unit with an artillery shell lodged in his rectum" - Amazingly he "tripped and fell on it" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10270067/Man-seeks-medical-help-artillery-shell-lodged-rectum.html
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Rectum? drat near killed ’em.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:This is just loving asinine. How do you think Mussolini's original fascists got into power? They got elected. What did the Nazis do? They got elected while the communists and social democrats tore each other to pieces. Voting is often the only defense against fascism, because after they win they pull up the ladder and make it impossible to dislodge them. So I'm reading this as voting is a way to put fascists into power which so far has checked out over the course of my lifetime.
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bird food bathtub posted:Dems want my vote to protect Roe? Where the gently caress have they been for the last 50 years on protecting Roe? Activists have been screaming about exactly this happening longer than I've been alive. Now I'm supposed to believe they'll do anything? Pick any god drat time you want when they had however many seats you think is the magic amount and let their actions prove what they're worth. Roe, immigration, etc.
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Platystemon posted:Rectum?
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Baconroll posted:"A man attended an NHS casualty unit with an artillery shell lodged in his rectum" - Amazingly he "tripped and fell on it" What great fortune he tripped and fell on a tube of lube beforehand
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Milo and POTUS posted:What great fortune he tripped and fell on a tube of lube beforehand The lube he fell on: 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:No, the current split in the Senate is 48D/50R/2O. Manchin and Sinema belong to the Opportunists, a new political party that will be with us in perpetuity until everything burns. It won't be them forever, but rest assured people will follow their example. New? Joe Lieberman's name ring any bells? There are a lot of good Democrats. I gave money and voted so that one of them (Cori Bush) is now in Congress. But there are, and always have been, enough lovely Democrats who will stop everything up because they don't give a poo poo about anything but their portfolio and/or face on the news. And there will be until everything burns because to get power you need money so the Democratic Party as an institution is controlled by these sort of people. Best Friends posted:There's always a list of reasons why democrats can't do the things they "really want" to do when they're in power. Strangely, republicans stuffer few of those same constraints when they have their turns in power. To be fair, the Republicans took as long to pass their one constant wish , tax cuts for the rich, as the Democrats just took to pass an infrastructure bill. And they never were able to repeal the ACA. They have these problems, too.
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