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I actually think Golden Wind is good I'm just fuckin around. Best Jojo so far is 2 and 4 tho
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 00:25 |
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Reqiuem stands are bullshit imo.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 00:30 |
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Never got into jojo, I got to whichever season had the younger dude, jotaro I think. It was pretty lame that his mum was so weak as a woman her jojo superpowers were killing her The best part of it was Roundabout I'm reading thru Alita 2 and 3 and it kinda owns? The most recent series is hilariously grimdark and features so many kids being killed at the start but it's super inventive and every few pages something completely insane and cool happens and then is forgotten about forever. I really like all the weird cyborg technology it's like warhammer 40k but pushed much further into the absurd and comical which is very much my poo poo. I love the crazy space marines whose heads they screw into their bodies like light bulbs Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 00:58 on Dec 3, 2021 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:Never got into jojo, I got to whichever season had the younger dude, jotaro I think. It was pretty lame that his mum was so weak as a woman her jojo superpowers were killing her So that's Stardust Crusaders (part 3) and it's probably the most famous part - especially in the west. Like nowadays that's not especially true especially since the anime helped make it mainstream but back in the day (when the manga wasn't even getting translated over here) it was the part that got some exposure. It was also neat when it came out because it introduced Stands and instead of doing a traditional tournament arc like everyone was it did a whole globe-trottingt thing. Now that the years have gone on and the novelty has worn off, it's probably aged the least gracefully. There's nothing it does that another part doesn't do better, and between later arcs and things that were inspired by it, pretty much everything good that did work has since been refined and improved upon. If you ever feel like giving it another shot, I would suggest either Part 1+2 (Part 1 is really short, like 8 or 9 episodes and with Part 2 it only totals about 26 so watching them together is like a normal 2-cours show) because those are weird and goofy and Part 2 is dumb in the best way, or Part 4 where the Stand powers are more interesting than the the kind of boring/generic lineup from part 3. E: none of them are really great about having strong female characters except for the new one
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 01:22 |
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Jotaro's mom is just a ditzy broad, and that's ok.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 01:27 |
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Joeseph creeped and saw his mom naked lmao.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 01:53 |
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while season 2 is my favorite jojo season i will say it is brought down by all the nazi apologism
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 02:12 |
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Lol wtf? Jojo is literally a pioneer in having strong female characters. Like half the bad guys in part 3 are women. Lisa Lisa. Jolyne obviously. Trish's stand (underutilized) would be remade in part 8 as one of the best ones. Part 7 and 8 are full of strong women as well. Obviously it's not perfect, but nothing is. Jotaros mom can't get a stand not because she's week, but because she doesn't have "killer instinct". Also it's just a macguffin for the plot. A literal baby and gorilla can get one lol.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 02:14 |
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Serf posted:while season 2 is my favorite jojo season i will say it is brought down by all the nazi apologism The Nazis are responsible for bringing the Pillar Men back in the first place. For the first half of the season they're practically Indiana Jones villains, and they all get the karmic justice they deserve.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:04 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Nazis are responsible for bringing the Pillar Men back in the first place. For the first half of the season they're practically Indiana Jones villains, and they all get the karmic justice they deserve. too bad they wind up teaming up with joseph and stroheim is just a doofy guy who comes along for the ride. and cesar zeppeli crying over his dead nazi friend. and the fact that speedwagon is a nazi collaborator
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:06 |
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Serf posted:too bad they wind up teaming up with joseph and stroheim is just a doofy guy who comes along for the ride. and cesar zeppeli crying over his dead nazi friend. and the fact that speedwagon is a nazi collaborator It'd be unrealistic if the Western industrialist wasn't a Nazi collaborator.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:08 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It'd be unrealistic if the Western industrialist wasn't a Nazi collaborator. oh absolutely. you just hate to see it happen to the fun sidekick from season 1
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:11 |
https://twitter.com/SolidusJJ/status/1466494294324301824?t=dfMTgYMk1aI9lFVq3IE_gA&s=19
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:13 |
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Serf posted:too bad they wind up teaming up with joseph and stroheim is just a doofy guy who comes along for the ride. and cesar zeppeli crying over his dead nazi friend. and the fact that speedwagon is a nazi collaborator who cares, it's funny
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 03:42 |
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Mirello posted:Lol wtf? Jojo is literally a pioneer in having strong female characters. Like half the bad guys in part 3 are women. Lisa Lisa. Jolyne obviously. Trish's stand (underutilized) would be remade in part 8 as one of the best ones. Part 7 and 8 are full of strong women as well. Obviously it's not perfect, but nothing is. I was more thinking about the protagonists and tbh I don't remember what she does in part 2 except that time Kars plays guitar with her. And 7 and8 haven't been adapted yet.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 04:05 |
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I literally got to the current last episode of AOT before I realized that there's still half a season left to go. This final season has been dogshit. I'll probably watch the back half after it's all aired to just see the end of the train wreck. this show is pretty much the anime equivalent of Lost. huge mystery box where the driving force of the story is hoping for another lore dump so you’ll actually understand what’s happening, but after the show put all its cards on the table at the end of season 3 it just exposed how awful the plot and characters all are now that they have to carry the story. Retromancer has issued a correction as of 04:36 on Dec 3, 2021 |
# ? Dec 3, 2021 04:24 |
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when is the rest of stone ocean / stone free coming out i inhaled those 12 episodes i need more
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 05:16 |
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the nazis in jojo part 2 are indeed evil, they are shown doing extremely evil things. but that is pretty quickly rendered irrelevant cause the main conflict has nothing to do with it and even the nazis don't want all human life on earth to be extinguished so they basically have to oppose the pillar men should he have just not put the nazis into it at all? well, yeah, probably that would have been better
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 07:34 |
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If it didn't have the Nazis then we'd never have the squirrel scene.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 07:38 |
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the best nazi villains were in indiana jones second best: hellsing
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 07:41 |
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the best jojo part is this MAD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvF90NJS-84
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 07:41 |
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I tried to watch a jojo, but it suffers extremely from pausing to overexplain every single scene like I'm some developementally challenged child. Each episode is like 5 minutes of things happening and 15 minutes of the characters going "Oh no, a thing is happening, we need to stop it, or else it will be bad. We can't allow this, since this is bad and can't happen. But I have a plan, I will do another thing that will counter the bad thing. Oh no, the bad guy predicted I'm foing the thing and he's countering with another bad thing. Luckily I also predicted it and can counter it with third thing. Ok, here i go, I'm doing the thing". All of this while there's barely anything moving on the screen. When something did happen, it was pretty cool, but it's just too much for me. I peaced out in the middle of pillar men.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 08:02 |
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wow the new run of alita sure is something! lots of grimdarkness and body horror in a pretty hilarious change of tone from the rest. the reveal of alita's backstory 24 years into her manga is pretty hilarious shes the excised tumour of a woman who got hit by a trap from a treasure chest, inhaling a gas that causes heads and faces to be grown all over your body, alita is one of those tumours attached to a robot body made doubly funny by the fact that current alita has basically nothing to do with OG alita biologically so it has absolutely no bearing on the story also christ he's been writing it since 2014 and its barely gone anywhere, this is gonna take til 2030 at least
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:04 |
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grate deceiver posted:I tried to watch a jojo, but it suffers extremely from pausing to overexplain every single scene like I'm some developementally challenged child. Each episode is like 5 minutes of things happening and 15 minutes of the characters going "Oh no, a thing is happening, we need to stop it, or else it will be bad. We can't allow this, since this is bad and can't happen. But I have a plan, I will do another thing that will counter the bad thing. Oh no, the bad guy predicted I'm foing the thing and he's countering with another bad thing. Luckily I also predicted it and can counter it with third thing. Ok, here i go, I'm doing the thing". lol, if people stopping to explain whats going on padding things out gets on your nerves, I feel as though anime might not be your thing. tough for me to think of one that doesn't drown in over-exposition. it's just a trait of the genre
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:07 |
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there's a lot of anime that don't overexplain, watch stuff that isn't shonen
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:13 |
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the 90s ova adapted for an animated medium with actual budget, david prod goes another route, i do miss the color layers they used to do to fun things up though
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:36 |
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Srice posted:there's a lot of anime that don't overexplain, watch stuff that isn't shonen Dude, I watch tons of romance shows with my wife. If you think shonen shows over explain, or draw things out, never ever watch a shoujo. Spend 24 eps waiting for the couple to hold hands, then it happens, then it turns out it was a dream / not canon and you've gotta wait until the next season for them to make any progress.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:38 |
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Just read the manga imo. If it's an anime only thing those tend to have good pacing anyway
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:42 |
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Mirello posted:Dude, I watch tons of romance shows with my wife. If you think shonen shows over explain, or draw things out, never ever watch a shoujo. Spend 24 eps waiting for the couple to hold hands, then it happens, then it turns out it was a dream / not canon and you've gotta wait until the next season for them to make any progress. yea a lot of those get pretty rough too!
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 13:48 |
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i do think jojo, like all anime, has those scenes where it pauses to overexplain things, but a lot of those times its in the middle of a fight and the thing that its explaining is some wacky asspull bullshit and i love it. its almost like a parody of the concept when the characters stand around thinking/talking about the scheme they cooked up .5 seconds ago to win, and then we do it again in 2 minutes as the next wild idea unfolds. personally its my second favorite part of the show (behind dio)
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:11 |
Everybody who says that all anime over explains things should watch Reconguista in G
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:39 |
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ffffuck I cant wait for Steel Ball Run so we can finally get the true evilest villain ever animated: The President of the United States of America
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:41 |
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Gripweed posted:Everybody who says that all anime over explains things should watch Reconguista in G G no reconguistaaaaa
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:42 |
Honest Thief posted:G no reconguistaaaaa Yeah let me amend that. Everyone should watch Reconguista in G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXcb2rXuTPo
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:43 |
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Gripweed posted:Everybody who says that all anime over explains things should watch Reconguista in G I was thinking pretty much any yuasa anime but that is also a good example
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:50 |
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Serf posted:i do think jojo, like all anime, has those scenes where it pauses to overexplain things, but a lot of those times its in the middle of a fight and the thing that its explaining is some wacky asspull bullshit and i love it. its almost like a parody of the concept when the characters stand around thinking/talking about the scheme they cooked up .5 seconds ago to win, and then we do it again in 2 minutes as the next wild idea unfolds. personally its my second favorite part of the show (behind dio) I do get this kinda, but I think it just happens at the worst time in Jojo. I would like to actually see the ridiculous asspull poo poo happening on screen, but instead it's a mostly static frame of two guys flexing, and then someone narrates what is actually happening for like 5 minutes. There's just not enough action to keep my interest - I peaced out at the episode when they're fighting Kars in Switzerland, and half of the ep was spent falling off a cliff. And yea, I watchted DBZ like literally everyone else on this planet.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:53 |
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also Demonslayer is shonen and that is dope as hell, so it's not an excuse
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:54 |
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it's totally a devotion to the manga panels and them saving money while doing it, which lead to anime being what it is today tbf but yeah.. part 2 can get ridiculous
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:58 |
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grate deceiver posted:I do get this kinda, but I think it just happens at the worst time in Jojo. I would like to actually see the ridiculous asspull poo poo happening on screen, but instead it's a mostly static frame of two guys flexing, and then someone narrates what is actually happening for like 5 minutes. There's just not enough action to keep my interest - I peaced out at the episode when they're fighting Kars in Switzerland, and half of the ep was spent falling off a cliff. oh yeah i could see that for sure. different strokes and all that. i just remember when, in season 1, johnathan stabs dio with a sword but gets frozen and it looks like he's hosed but actually he stabbed the blade of the sword into a brazier and the heat is transferring down and melting the ice on his arm and that poo poo just hooked me. the whole show is kids on a playground going "actually i have a forcefield that your bullets bounce off of" and the other kid going "my bullets bounce down into the earth and burrow up at you from below!" and its so stupid that i like it.
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# ? Dec 3, 2021 14:58 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 06:35 |
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the kind of slow overexplaining anime pacing I like is in a particular kind of sports anime where it takes like 5 minutes of internal monologue before the pitcher throws the ball
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