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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Sounds like the truth is in the middle somewhere. So like 9.5ish.

12 - 12 represents the harmony of the yin and yang: In Chinese numerology, one is a yang number, ruled by the sun and symbolizing independence and individualism. Two is a yin number ruled by the moon and represents symmetry and balance. Together in the number 12: harmony.

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 3, 2021

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1466860644578299907?s=19

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Young Labour... good?

https://twitter.com/YoungLabourUK/status/1466855477132894214

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."


Oh huh that's weird. The recommendation from JCVI is for all adults, the relevant ministers say they'll accept that recommendation, I'm under 40 with no known conditions and have been offered a booster by my GP but apparently the guidance hasn't changed yet.

Maybe they'll cancel my appointment?

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

therattle posted:

That’s a great analysis, although I think there is now a pretty large and incontrovertible body of evidence that China is doing a lot of awful stuff in Xinjiang. And I don’t think that the US is planning an invasion of China anytime soon.

:0

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

kecske posted:

over 40s still isn't it? I'm working round the corner from there tomorrow but am only a sprightly 35.

Nope, I got a walk-in and am 35 years young

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

therattle posted:

That’s a great analysis, although I think there is now a pretty large and incontrovertible body of evidence that China is doing a lot of awful stuff in Xinjiang. And I don’t think that the US is planning an invasion of China anytime soon.

I don't think anyone but the most terminally online tankie is refuting the idea that China is getting up to some shady stuff in Xinjiang. That can be true at the same time as 'things are being deliberately exaggerated by Western interests to manufacture consent'.

Intervention doesn't have to take the form of an outright military invasion. There is clearly an ongoing effort to drum up hostility to China and isolate it on the international stage.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't think anyone but the most terminally online tankie is refuting the idea that China is getting up to some shady stuff in Xinjiang. That can be true at the same time as 'things are being deliberately exaggerated by Western interests to manufacture consent'.

Intervention doesn't have to take the form of an outright military invasion. There is clearly an ongoing effort to drum up hostility to China and isolate it on the international stage.

No argument from me on any of that.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
China is making huge inroads into Africa, investing in ports, rail and road infrastructure amongst other things.
I can imagine why some Western powers of a hegamonic bent find that disconcerting.
Apart from anything, the Chinese don't demand various 'human rights' improvements the way Western countries do.

Good overview of Chinese investment in Africa here:

https://www.orfonline.org/research/chinas-belt-and-road-initiative-implications-in-africa/

Also in this link some reports of push-back from some African countries.
I know too that following covid and the Chinese being blamed for it anyone with oriental looks was getting spat at and abused in Egypt. (Not only Chinese, other foreigners too.)

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
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I AM THERESA MAY


StarkingBarfish posted:

Young Labour... good?
I thought Young Labour was always (recently) good.

It's Labour Students that can get to gently caress

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Borrovan posted:

I thought Young Labour was always (recently) good.

It's Labour Students that can get to gently caress

Didn't one of the YL leaders get suspended or something recently?

Fake ed: yes, here: she was suspended at 1am by email (as were a number of people) and then unsuspended.

https://labourlist.org/2021/09/young-labour-chair-under-investigation-by-party-over-anti-transphobia-tweets/

A fresh row between Young Labour chair Jess Barnard and the Labour Party has exploded as the activist was informed overnight that she is under investigation over two anti-transphobia tweets posted last year.


Labour Students alumni: Wes Streeting, and Luciana Berger who claimed she needed a police escort to labour party conference but it was a lie.


Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Dec 3, 2021

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

investigation over two anti-transphobia tweets posted last year.

Smh it's like getting investigated over saying "all Nazis should be shot and hanged."

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Niric posted:

:woop: congrats both!
7 weeks here and it's still very weird and exhausting but rewarding

Thanks (and also to the others who got in touch).

He was born this morning at 8am. There were some weird heart rate issues yesterday so we had to get a c-section this morning instead of inducing labor.

Managed to spend the whole day with him before getting kicked out of the hospital visiting hours which was awesome. Though he cried a hell of a lot less than i was expecting, barely anything at all, though getting him his initial feed was tricky. That's probably not gonna keep up is it (the lack of crying i mean)?

Currently crashing due to just getting 4 hours of sleep last night, but felt like it was worth it.

Kin fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Dec 3, 2021

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

Oh sub-bore ammunition goes back a long way to get more penetration (:quagmire:) out of your ageing gun. There's a reason it's in French and that's because a French dude invented it in the 30s.

I suppose of all the WW2 munitions to chose to stick up your arse he went for one of the safer ones - imagine if he'd got his hands on a sticky bomb or one of those spring-loaded mortars.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Lady Gaza posted:

Nope, I got a walk-in and am 35 years young

Well this isnt what they're advertising, they're explicitly saying online they wont stab you without a referral from your GP under 40 and less than 6 months, but I guess once you're there they're not going to say no most of the time.

theyre their there?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I suppose of all the WW2 munitions to chose to stick up your arse he went for one of the safer ones - imagine if he'd got his hands on a sticky bomb or one of those spring-loaded mortars.
I'm now imagining Elon Musk declaring himself head of the rescue mission to bring back the guy who decided to insert a V2 nose switch, attached.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I suppose of all the WW2 munitions to chose to stick up your arse he went for one of the safer ones - imagine if he'd got his hands on a sticky bomb or one of those spring-loaded mortars.

75mm white phosphorus shells were still in use by WW2. So yes, it could always be worse.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Kin posted:

Thanks (and also to the others who got in touch).

He was born this morning at 8am. There were some weird heart rate issues yesterday so we had to get a c-section this morning instead of inducing labor.

Managed to spend the whole day with him before getting kicked out of the hospital visiting hours which was awesome. Though he cried a hell of a lot less than i was expecting, barely anything at all, though getting him his initial feed was tricky. That's probably not gonna keep up is it (the lack of crying i mean)?

Currently crashing due to just getting 4 hours of sleep last night, but felt like it was worth it.

Congrats dude! Glad to hear it’s all okay. I’ve never had a kid but although I’d not get your hopes up on the crying, I was apparently a very quiet baby who slept through most of the time so you never know

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

75mm white phosphorus shells were still in use by WW2. So yes, it could always be worse.

I'm fairly certain they had a self-igniting Molotov cocktail that was just a milk bottle full of petrol and phosphorus - presumably some clever bugger thought "Aha, because they don't have to light this before throwing it'll be safer and not give their positions away!" and never considered the possiblity of someone dropping a crate of them or something (or, indeed, someone taking their War Christmas celebrations that little bit too far 80 years later)

e: Aha, half-remembered Dad's Army episodes remain undefeated as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._76_special_incendiary_grenade

quote:

The perfected list of ingredients was white phosphorus, benzene, water and a two-inch strip of raw rubber; all in a half-pint bottle sealed with a crown stopper.

Ridiculous, I'm sure they realised just how stupidly dangerous this was...

quote:

Mainly issued to the Home Guard as an anti-tank weapon, it was produced in vast numbers; by August 1941 well over 6,000,000 had been manufactured.

:aaa:

quote:

The Home Guard hid caches of these grenades during the war for use in the event of an invasion. Not all locations were officially recorded and some caches were lost.

:kingsley:

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Dec 4, 2021

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Kin posted:

Thanks (and also to the others who got in touch).

He was born this morning at 8am. There were some weird heart rate issues yesterday so we had to get a c-section this morning instead of inducing labor.

Managed to spend the whole day with him before getting kicked out of the hospital visiting hours which was awesome. Though he cried a hell of a lot less than i was expecting, barely anything at all, though getting him his initial feed was tricky. That's probably not gonna keep up is it (the lack of crying i mean)?

Currently crashing due to just getting 4 hours of sleep last night, but felt like it was worth it.

Congrats! Good luck and don't worry about forgetting something, it'll happen again and everyone does it

regards the crying, there's no reason he should be unless he's uncomfortable - he's probably happy :)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Convex posted:

Congrats! Good luck and don't worry about forgetting something, it'll happen again and everyone does it

E.g. the time my mum managed to leave my then-newborn sister in her pram outside a shop and get all the way home before realising she'd done it - family legend has her only going back because the pram was a Silvercross and so quite valuable.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Kin posted:

Thanks (and also to the others who got in touch).

He was born this morning at 8am. There were some weird heart rate issues yesterday so we had to get a c-section this morning instead of inducing labor.

Managed to spend the whole day with him before getting kicked out of the hospital visiting hours which was awesome. Though he cried a hell of a lot less than i was expecting, barely anything at all, though getting him his initial feed was tricky. That's probably not gonna keep up is it (the lack of crying i mean)?

Currently crashing due to just getting 4 hours of sleep last night, but felt like it was worth it.

Congratulations!

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm fairly certain they had a self-igniting Molotov cocktail that was just a milk bottle full of petrol and phosphorus - presumably some clever bugger thought "Aha, because they don't have to light this before throwing it'll be safer and not give their positions away!" and never considered the possiblity of someone dropping a crate of them or something (or, indeed, someone taking their War Christmas celebrations that little bit too far 80 years later)

e: Aha, half-remembered Dad's Army episodes remain undefeated as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._76_special_incendiary_grenade

Ridiculous, I'm sure they realised just how stupidly dangerous this was...

:aaa:

:kingsley:

Willie Pete is one of those things where the more you read, the worse it gets. It's just an absolute nightmare of a substance no matter the approach.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
There were also apparently a whole bunch of oil of vitriol/permanganate incendiaries being stashed about further north around the UK at the same time, at least by implication from one of the last remaining acid manufacturers in the area. It checks out, the combination would set off any low grade fuel you could stick in a bottle along with a test tube and an ampoule, from town gas tails to paper mill waste, but at least the long term effects aren't as worrying as coming across buried piles of white phosphorus and benzene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orYMyogS3io

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Missed this one.
Yeah, I know it's only a ward but still:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1466729259033104389?s=20

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Wow lot of new parents ITT

(including me, hence the 4am post oh yes)

Niric posted:

:woop: congrats both!
7 weeks here and it's still very weird and exhausting but rewarding

7 weeks here too, as of today! :hf:

It occurs to me SA needs a parenting subforum. Goons With Spawns

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm fairly certain they had a self-igniting Molotov cocktail that was just a milk bottle full of petrol and phosphorus - presumably some clever bugger thought "Aha, because they don't have to light this before throwing it'll be safer and not give their positions away!" and never considered the possiblity of someone dropping a crate of them or something (or, indeed, someone taking their War Christmas celebrations that little bit too far 80 years later)

e: Aha, half-remembered Dad's Army episodes remain undefeated as a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._76_special_incendiary_grenade

Ridiculous, I'm sure they realised just how stupidly dangerous this was...

:aaa:

:kingsley:

As I recall, the UK had a pretty big surplus of petrol because all the stuff that would be shipped to occupied europe from the US, was stuck in the UK.

So they tried to find all sorts of stupid ways to weaponise it, i think including burying large amounts of it to detonate in the event of an invasion.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Grats to all the new babby makers ITT!!

They're so lovely when they're new. I got a new niece a couple of months ago and she's very sweet. Very chill baby, although she loves being cuddled, 'ates not being cuddled (simple as) and will fuss without a certain amount of fussing

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
Congratulations goon parents. My second one is due in March and I anticipate it with joy and dread.

Re crying : they only cry if they need food / changing / sleep / cuddle. As long as you can pre empt those needs (by no means an easy feat) then you will generally not suffer too much.

Unless it's got colic, in which case you're basically just hosed for a few months.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Missed this one.
Yeah, I know it's only a ward but still:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1466729259033104389?s=20

That reminds me, there was a by-election for my ward on Tuesday. I didn't end u voting because I'm ill. The only candidate to visit was the Lib Dem one, who is running on the same platform as the Labour candidate. He said that it was an incredibly tight race between him and the Labour candidate so every vote counted, lets have a look at the results:

quote:

Gavin John Horton, Welsh Labour – 641 votes ELECTED

John Edmunds Miller, Welsh Liberal Democrats – 258 votes

Muhammad Tariq, Conservative and Unionist Party - 93

Oh yes, very close.

And streaming & music companies ripping off the artists again.

quote:

Despite her album having been streamed 750,000 times, The Anchoress has not made a single penny from it.

On paper, 2020-21 was singer Catherine Davies' most successful year, yet she ended it failing to break even.

She described the situation as "pretty bleak" and said action was needed to stop musicians leaving the industry.

At present, Spotify is believed to pay between £0.002 and £0.0038 per stream, while Apple Music pays about £0.0059 and YouTube around £0.00052.

Davies believes streaming services are a "double-edged sword", directing people who do not want to pay £10 for a CD or £25 for vinyl towards an artist's music.

She added: "It's a route to fans. I have 111,000 on Spotify and a top 40 record this year, but it doesn't trickle down.

"It needs to be better remunerated. None are doing it to become millionaires, but it would be nice to pay the mortgage."

About 90% of musicians earn less than £1,000 a month, but Davies said many were using services such as Bandcamp where the artist sells the music directly, or make more money from merchandise such as T-shirts and limited edition vinyl.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Wow lot of new parents ITT

(including me, hence the 4am post oh yes)

7 weeks here too, as of today! :hf:

It occurs to me SA needs a parenting subforum. Goons With Spawns

There's a mega thread
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3508127&pagenumber=613&perpage=40

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Kin posted:

That's probably not gonna keep up is it (the lack of crying i mean)?

Currently crashing due to just getting 4 hours of sleep last night, but felt like it was worth it.

Grats fellow spawn-haver!

They're going to be quiet for the first few days to weeks until their senses start to come online properly, then the fun begins.

Before that they're only going to cry when they're unhappy so if they're quiet it's good.

Get all the sleep you can, when you can. The adrenaline lasts about a month or so and this is a marathon.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Missed this one.
Yeah, I know it's only a ward but still:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1466729259033104389?s=20

As with most Labour successes in the last year or two (Wales, Preston) I believe this comes from the local party basically doing their own thing and ignoring the direction of travel from Southside.

In 2017 they got their first councillor, now they have as many as the Tories.

There's a good article about in on Labourlist

https://labourlist.org/2021/06/how-to-beat-the-tories-in-their-heartlands-the-story-of-east-worthing/

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


sebzilla posted:

As with most Labour successes in the last year or two (Wales, Preston) I believe this comes from the local party basically doing their own thing and ignoring the direction of travel from Southside.

In 2017 they got their first councillor, now they have as many as the Tories.

There's a good article about in on Labourlist

https://labourlist.org/2021/06/how-to-beat-the-tories-in-their-heartlands-the-story-of-east-worthing/

^^^ That's a really cool way to go about things.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Wow lot of new parents ITT

(including me, hence the 4am post oh yes)

7 weeks here too, as of today! :hf:

It occurs to me SA needs a parenting subforum. Goons With Spawns

Was going to say it's due to the covid lockdown, then i remembered....... Goons always stay inside. :ohdear:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Article by Sharon Graham on Unite's position now:

https://labourlist.org/2021/12/sharon-graham-im-trying-to-get-what-we-do-politically-to-mean-something/

quote:

“I said to Keir Starmer when I met him in this office, I find it disappointing – and I’m being diplomatic – I find it disappointing that Labour are not coming out far more robustly in terms of what’s happening to workers and communities.” Sharon Graham is speaking to LabourList in her Unite office to mark her first 100 days as the union’s general secretary.

Describing her meeting with the Labour leader, she continues: “I said to him, ‘look, my conversations with you will not be about the internal machinations of Labour, it will be about practical things that Labour should be doing in order to drive forward what’s happening to workers’. And obviously, I said to him that I think that they are not stepping up to the plate as far as workers are concerned.”

etc

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Borrovan posted:

fully sanctioned plausibly deniable torture
Ah, Bastani's difficult 2nd book.


OwlFancier posted:

and apparently there are still people going "hey now maybe it's just that we have the wrong people in charge, you can't just write off the system"
This is always going to be the frustrating thing about discussing capitalism and liberalism vs communism / socialism with anyone. The lib/cap side is always going to keep arguing an idealised fantasy version of their theory and ignoring real world attempts at them failing as not really being lib/cap, and it still being a noble goal. But com/soc of course is always argued in terms of the real world failures (that largely failed because of lib/cap interference or corruption), and then using that as an argument against the theoretical, idealised systems.

It's like someone trying to argue that their electric car is better because at some point in the future a wizard will make it self driving and carbon negative, and all the times they burst into flames locking their occupants into a fiery shell of death, or cost more carbon to manufacture and ship than the average petrol car uses in its lifespan, or tried to take a shortcut through a bus queue shouldn't count because they never meant to do those things.


OwlFancier posted:

Neither the NHS nor the gov.uk websites seem to agree with this.
Yeah my GP surgery has a big sign up saying they're closing their vaccine service and to use the government service to be assigned a private location. Which is trying to send me halfway across the country, because a lot of the vaccination sites have closed for this reason - they've gone back to more profitable, non-lockdown activities.

I saw this so now you have to as well:
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1466870397366845440?t=XstHirDZIgp59DuMQ2k9cA&s=19


goddamnedtwisto posted:

E.g. the time my mum managed to leave my then-newborn sister in her pram outside a shop and get all the way home before realising she'd done it - family legend has her only going back because the pram was a Silvercross and so quite valuable.
Your mum is David Cameron?

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Well this isnt what they're advertising, they're explicitly saying online they wont stab you without a referral from your GP under 40 and less than 6 months, but I guess once you're there they're not going to say no most of the time.

theyre their there?

I thought the same since online guidance said the same, but asked at the desk and they said it was now 3 months. Maybe the hospital is just ahead of what government planned.

Lady Gaza
Nov 20, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Missed this one.
Yeah, I know it's only a ward but still:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1466729259033104389?s=20

I’m originally from down that way, it’s always been full of old people, but anecdotally I know a lot of people who lived in London moving down there in their 30s to have a family by the sea. So maybe the change in demographic is the cause of this. I think something similar happened to Canterbury in a GE?

My wife and I recently moved to Tonbridge and were surprised that the council for the town itself is Green, and all the surrounding areas are Tory. Then again the town does seem to skew younger than the villages which seem to be gammon central.

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Bobby Deluxe posted:

This is always going to be the frustrating thing about discussing capitalism and liberalism vs communism / socialism with anyone. The lib/cap side is always going to keep arguing an idealised fantasy version of their theory and ignoring real world attempts at them failing as not really being lib/cap, and it still being a noble goal. But com/soc of course is always argued in terms of the real world failures (that largely failed because of lib/cap interference or corruption), and then using that as an argument against the theoretical, idealised systems.

It's like someone trying to argue that their electric car is better because at some point in the future a wizard will make it self driving and carbon negative, and all the times they burst into flames locking their occupants into a fiery shell of death, or cost more carbon to manufacture and ship than the average petrol car uses in its lifespan, or tried to take a shortcut through a bus queue shouldn't count because they never meant to do those things.

Lmao. This is excellent parody.

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