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Dungeon Ecology
Feb 9, 2011

if you could engineer an inner-atmosphere orbit with a very gradual degradation, that could be considered a fall

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Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
There has to be an easier way to kill a squirrel

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

flavor.flv posted:

It is very clearly false, because that would put it well outside Earth's atmosphere and it would die in about 30 seconds from a combination of oxygen deprivation and internal rupturing from exposure to vacuum.

If you dug a hole for it to fall into instead, it would die of the heat and pressure before it cleared the earth's mantle

No, nothing about this checks out at all

I will not stand by and let you ignore the possibility of a squirrel in a space suit.

Danaru posted:

There has to be an easier way to kill a squirrel

If you know one I'd love to hear it, making all these tiny space suits is getting loving tiring.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

EL BROMANCE posted:

Finally a use for that set of portal guns I bought from AliExpress.

Shoot the portal holes 10 feet from each other, end up at the core of Jupiter

That's the AliExpress guarantee

Friend
Aug 3, 2008

I realized that he would probably die of dehydration before starving, and squirrels apparently need water every day, so assuming he doesn't hit any rain on the way down it would probably be more like 1,600 miles (two days of falling the distance from the north pole to jamaica)

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

I bet I could beat a squirrel in a fight.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



With an atmosphere that thick, there might be a point where it gets crushed by the pressure first?

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
If the squirrel can start this thought experiment already at terminal velocity, then we could probably reduce it to 300 miles or the thickness of Earth's atmosphere. If the squirrel's starting from a standstill, then add however much distance it would take to accelerate to where it'd burn up on reentry.

Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters

Danaru posted:

There has to be an easier way to kill a squirrel

This is in fact the only way to kill a squirrel

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Dungeon Ecology posted:

if you could engineer an inner-atmosphere orbit with a very gradual degradation, that could be considered a fall

That's silly. Just drop him on a treadmill.

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


Son of Thunderbeast posted:

If the squirrel can start this thought experiment already at terminal velocity, then we could probably reduce it to 300 miles or the thickness of Earth's atmosphere. If the squirrel's starting from a standstill, then add however much distance it would take to accelerate to where it'd burn up on reentry.

Mach 5 is the transition point to hypersonic flight and is typically when you would expect something to “burn up” due to air compression heating.

The speed of sound varies based on a host of atmospheric factors so Mach 5 at sea level does not equal Mach 5 at the Karman line. Speed of sound at sea level is about 340 m/s and at 100 km up it’s 285 m/s.

Mach 5 = 5 * 285 = 1425 m/s

Let’s teleport a squirrel into space above the Earth and let it fall from rest until it hits the Karman line at Mach 5.

V = a*t
a = 9.8m/s^2
V = 1425 m/s
t = 145.4s
X = 1/2a*t^2 + v0
v0 = 0
X = 103,592m = 64 miles

So you teleport your squirrel 64 miles above the atmosphere and gravity pulls it in and before it can deploy its elaborate drag devices it hits the air like a bullet and ignites.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Ahhh yeah, that's the stuff. Thank you space uncle

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

space uncle posted:

Mach 5 is the transition point to hypersonic flight and is typically when you would expect something to “burn up” due to air compression heating.

The speed of sound varies based on a host of atmospheric factors so Mach 5 at sea level does not equal Mach 5 at the Karman line. Speed of sound at sea level is about 340 m/s and at 100 km up it’s 285 m/s.

Mach 5 = 5 * 285 = 1425 m/s

Let’s teleport a squirrel into space above the Earth and let it fall from rest until it hits the Karman line at Mach 5.

V = a*t
a = 9.8m/s^2
V = 1425 m/s
t = 145.4s
X = 1/2a*t^2 + v0
v0 = 0
X = 103,592m = 64 miles

So you teleport your squirrel 64 miles above the atmosphere and gravity pulls it in and before it can deploy its elaborate drag devices it hits the air like a bullet and ignites.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"
I just jumped into this thread, so apologies if this was posted earlier!

https://twitter.com/BlackKnight10k/status/1466817299290243076

:drat:



I would tip this dude so much money.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/lolennui/status/1466931994974031872

https://twitter.com/jpbrammer/status/1466862896550400003

https://twitter.com/ja_labrecque_/status/1466872000396369928

https://twitter.com/OhNoSheTwitnt/status/1466777448062853122

https://twitter.com/RealSardonicus/status/1466919897670332416

Fools Infinite
Mar 21, 2006
Journeyman
I've seen a squirrel fall out of a tree and be killed from the fall. The dead squirrel was in the same spot for about a week. I guess squirrel math doesn't really account for rocks strewn about the forest floor.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
PYF Tweets: squirrel math

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

That wasn't squirrel math that was TREE LAW

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
To return to the whole "bees shut off when the lights go out", even though a bee wouldn't be killed at terminal velocity (although apparently a squirrel could), there are plenty of things that a bee could be killed by when it lands, like a body of water, or quicksand, or fire/lava, or one of those plants that traps and eats flies

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


Cream-of-Plenty posted:

To return to the whole "bees shut off when the lights go out", even though a bee wouldn't be killed at terminal velocity (although apparently a squirrel could), there are plenty of things that a bee could be killed by when it lands, like a body of water, or quicksand, or fire/lava, or one of those plants that traps and eats flies

do you live in a super Mario level

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
I mean if they kept flying they'd have to worry about Bullet Bill and that fella in the cloud so it's a wash really.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
the bee could fall into a perfect anti-matter replica of itself destroying itself and its hive

Shitshow
Jul 25, 2007

We still have not found a machine that can measure the intensity of love. We would all buy it.
Edit: wrong thread

Paper Tiger
Jun 17, 2007

🖨️🐯torn apart by idle hands

https://twitter.com/steph_mcca/status/1466840223686430724?t=NQnbWAeJryTRgjQ3OqF_Uw&s=19

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Also governments

"Yes this is the AUSTRALIAN TAXATION OFFICE with a VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE in your SPECIFIC GOVERNMENT INBOX that we cannot send straight to your email because REASONS"

Then you open it and it's like "tax tips for small businesses" which I am not nor ever have been.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/AshleyGWinter/status/1466817461798391812

https://twitter.com/fcampbellhowes/status/1466463897792221188

https://twitter.com/MicroSFF/status/1466739301534908422

https://twitter.com/sadmathboi/status/1466522804342468608

https://twitter.com/griffraff97/status/1466717466193707012

https://twitter.com/missjellinsky/status/1466555889813442563

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

This was probably just sorted out with a signature on a piece of paper that said "I transfer the rights to this thing which didn't happen before because our lawyers missed it first time 'round" but with the replies to this being like "yeah I sold an apartment in Paris once that was three different lots" and "yeah I bought a place and it turns out the previous owner still owns the half of the living room that has the entrance and the heater in it" I'm not so sure.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Fools Infinite posted:

I've seen a squirrel fall out of a tree and be killed from the fall. The dead squirrel was in the same spot for about a week. I guess squirrel math doesn't really account for rocks strewn about the forest floor.

Yeah I’ve also seen this happen a couple times and found dead squirrels who were ostensibly killed by a fall. They might not be heavy but they’re still squishy little mammals and pavement is hard.

My coworker and I were walking across campus a few years ago and found a freshly dead (still warm) squirrel under the branch it fell off and we were looking at it when a guy walked up and was really concerned. He asked if we should call someone and when I said “No man, there will be a crow here soon,” he was not satisfied.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Hmmmmm

https://twitter.com/SaphiaFleury/status/1466793522133188612?t=FsAtTJAEqQaAUUEtPbH39A&s=19

Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014



Fools Infinite posted:

I've seen a squirrel fall out of a tree and be killed from the fall. The dead squirrel was in the same spot for about a week. I guess squirrel math doesn't really account for rocks strewn about the forest floor.

Obviously that was a squirrel that fell from 4800 miles up.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

ultrafilter posted:

There are limits on the complexity of the behavior you can get from bee brains, that almost never happens outside of a lab setting, and hitting the ground at terminal velocity is no big deal for a creature that small.

Possibly, but what is terminal velocity for a bee? Surely it takes more than just the few metres of that box to fall far enough to reach it

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Hyperlynx posted:

Possibly, but what is terminal velocity for a bee? Surely it takes more than just the few metres of that box to fall far enough to reach it
You know that thing where under conventional physics bees' wings don't produce enough lift for them to actually fly but they do anyway? Through a related quirk, bees don't have a terminal velocity. A falling bee will continue to accelerate until it hits the hard light speed limit of the universe. A bee falling from high enough would impact the earth with the same force as an atomic bomb. This is what happened in Tunguska.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

as someone who has moved a beehive in the dark I can assure you that bees can fly perfectly well in the dark and are not loving happy about it.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/spurtmagoo/status/1466658667151847425?s=21

Flint_Paper
Jun 7, 2004

This isn't cool at all Looshkin! These are dark forces you're titting about with!

To be fair if it was nighttime and I thought some loving goon was trying to steal my house I'd be pretty pissed off too

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

I loving hate reddit

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

https://twitter.com/JamColley/status/1466937854622273538

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

El Mero Mero posted:

as someone who has moved a beehive in the dark I can assure you that bees can fly perfectly well in the dark and are not loving happy about it.

....?...??
Why were you moving bees in the dark?

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smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Tree Bucket posted:

....?...??
Why were you moving bees in the dark?

They enjoy the buzz

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