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SKULL.GIF posted:this is an extremely useful lesson to draw from particularly for the climate collapse future yeah it's great can't wait 
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Thoguh posted:It's hosed up to me that we're still waiting on 6 months to 5 years trials to complete to determine the exact level of protection rather than giving them an EUA as soon as we had dosage determined and data on side effects from the shots. We’re still waiting on boosters for sixteen– and seventeen‐year‐olds. I’m not suggesting that their situation is worse than your kid’s. I am suggesting that it is beyond parody that FDA said “yup, seems like a great plan to give them two shots” on December eleventh, 2020, and here we are one year later and they’re like “O.K. so we see that the third shot is providing eighty‐five percent more protection than the two alone in eighteen‐year‐olds, but do the benefits really outweigh the risks in seventeen‐year‐olds? 🤔”
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Rynn posted:Well my fiancé’s sister now has Covid again. She’s an EMT, only got the vaccine because it was required for her job (J&J) and didn’t want a booster. She also fits the definition of morbidly obese. An oxygen level of 80 is permanent brain damage territory 
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Louisgod posted:think a while ago some psychologists postulated peoples’ denial of an endless COVID and even the pending climate disaster is an outright unconscious survival technique of the brain to shy away from their changing environments. People trade in critical thought for low hanging information that tells them actually, everything is fine and is on the mend. it’s genuinely interesting but clearly leads to dangerous outcomes. The brain does some interesting things when you put it under stress but it seems to default to going along and hoping for the best. I'm reminded of all of those Iraqi soldiers who were lined up to get shot after ISIS took Mosul. They knew that when they got to the front of the line they were going to catch a 5.56 to the dome and get tossed into the river, but they stayed in the line anyway because the brain's response to that sort of overwhelming stress is to just do whatever their captors said and hope that it didn't happen to them.
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Omnicarus posted:An oxygen level of 80 is permanent brain damage territory this is the first I’ve heard of it! Disregarding - I am sure Fauci would have told me if that was a real thing
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:ha ha ha the american years of lead are gonna be absolutely lit the American Years of Lead but with the current distribution of firearms. ruh roh
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Omnicarus posted:An oxygen level of 80 is permanent brain damage territory All I know is she said it was low 80s. But she’s near 300lbs easily and that can’t have been good on her heart/lungs, I can’t imagine how it’ll be the second round
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Rynn posted:All I know is she said it was low 80s. But she’s near 300lbs easily and that can’t have been good on her heart/lungs, I can’t imagine how it’ll be the second round I’m sorry… I’m sure Uncle Omi will be gentle with her
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jinx_player posted:I’m sorry… I’m not celebrating it either but she’s definitely against the vaccines, thinks it’s still just the flu after all that etc. She made her choice
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related to the conversation of hopium addicts yesterday i called my brother. i called him to try and smooth over some tensions as pf late. we skipped out on thanksgiving bc his MIL recently caught covid after halloween. (he never told my wife and i and probably never would have told us. my parents told us.) first a bit of backstory: my brother last year isolated and distanced as he and his wife worked from home. he was every bit as mad at covid-debialists/minimalists as me, frequently calling me to bullshit bc all his friends were ostrasizing him bc they were off to suck n gently caress land. then he got vaxxed. he put his kids into daycare and said, i dont care anymore. he told me his plan was to catch covid. he got his wish and caught covid in july. he initially dismissed a faint positive rapid test and assumed the PCR that said he and everyone in the house were negative was right. just a cold. he even went to a concert later in the week, symptomatic. the day after the concert he lost his taste and smell. he took another PCR and wow susrprise—he caught covid. this didnt stop him from cancelling his family vacation where they all spread covid at multiple indoor public locations, including a hotel and restaurants. if they gave covid to someone else, he told me it was their fault for not wearing a mask and/or for not getting vaccinated. since then he now frequents restaurants. his wife shares cute stories about how their son has to wave goodbye to everyone in the restaurant as they leave. he now frequents large family get-togethers. so obviously his tune changed. he went from getting mad at my parents for attending a get-together in march (after everyone was vaxxed) to catching and spreading covid and not caring at all about it. he’s “safe,” he survived—now he doesn’t care. back to yesterday’s phone conversation. i basically said, hey, there’s a rift here and im not sure what to do about it. i said i felt like we live in two separate realities. he of course said he “respects” my wife and i’s decisions wrt covid, but when pressed everything he said was MAGA rhetoric. * wgaf about variants, media is scaremongering * i believe everyone is just gonna get it eventually, no point in delaying the inevitable i got mad but calmed down enough to switch the topic, but there is a gulf between us i dont see being repaired any time soon. i think in a lot of ways his is the “sane” one. not bc he’s right about covid, he’s not. but that pretending it’s not happening is the sane and rational approach. i dunno, even though the stereotype is that those itt thrive on doom and gloom, i loving hate distancing and calculating risk every time i go somewhere or see someone. its way easier to just give up, but it’s also hard to just give up bc that means i’ll be playing chicken with nature sometime in the near future.
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He's not wrong that you can roll the dice with the present variants and the vaccines and get lucky for a long long time, maybe the rest of your life. Omicron is going to scythe through these actively denialist populations like nothing we've seen
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Gio posted:snip brothers wife, btw, is a blue MAGA mommy. when she was sick in june my brother told us bc we recently saw them. he gave me updates and told me the rapid (which i suggested he buy) came back negative. next day told me still no covid. i said, basically, plz let me know the PCR results. then he out of nowhere flipped the gently caress out and said i was intruding on their privacy for asking about the PCR results—which i wanted to know since we were going on a vacation with my parents that weekend. turns out it was all her flipping out, not my brother.
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poop butt Anyway, I'm done here. Bye.
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Wang Commander posted:He's not wrong that you can roll the dice with the present variants and the vaccines and get lucky for a long long time, maybe the rest of your life. Omicron is going to scythe through these actively denialist populations like nothing we've seen absolutely. without a doubt. he is not wrong.
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:ha ha ha the american years of lead are gonna be absolutely lit The murder rate during the Years of Lead was lower than the rate at which unarmed Black men are killed by police in the US.
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SKULL.GIF posted:this is an extremely useful lesson to draw from particularly for the climate collapse future Republicans have already mastered the 'the virus is why China/Biden is the world's greatest threat' and 'the virus is nothing' doublethink. I think the next step in our inevitable neo-fash society is that they pick up the ball that Democrats dropped and promise compensation for those hindered from the virus (selectively, of course) while also punishing companies or states that so much as thought about mandates.
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Koirhor posted:going pokemon hunting in the car with my son stopping at home depot to pick up 3 boxes of auras order them on curbside or for home delivery. the HD website will say they are on the shelves in a particular place but they can be stocked in the store at like five different places or even in a box in the back.
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mod sassinator posted:a lot of "we loving told you and you told us off" energy on twitter in last couple days. good thread here drat go off Adam
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Wang Commander posted:He's not wrong that you can roll the dice with the present variants and the vaccines and get lucky for a long long time, maybe the rest of your life. Omicron is going to scythe through these actively denialist populations like nothing we've seen Yeah, it's important to remember that most people that act like COVID is over are not going to get COVID (at least not in any given wave) and if they do they probably are going to have a mild case with no lasting repercussions. Most people that gently caress around will not find out. That's a big part of why our COVID response is so stupid. Everyone assumes that they will be part of the majority for which COVID is no big deal.
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mastershakeman posted:But 90 % of the country isn't going to be able to taste or smell very well Obesity epidemic, meet COVID pandemic.
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i am harry posted:i cope by feeling like im that guy in clockwork orange with his eyes held open and i just go with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DmWb4GvHpI&t=147s
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Lots of "I told you so you loving assholes" energy on COVID twitter this morning. https://twitter.com/TheAngryEpi/status/1467540350591848454?s=20
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Thoguh posted:Lots of "I told you so you loving assholes" energy on COVID twitter this morning. Ive been busy this morning, what did I miss that caused all this?
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Dec 5, 2021 18:14
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Confirmed Omicron cases from the high school Christmas party is now 53 out of 150 attendees.
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Gio posted:related to the conversation of hopium addicts This is pretty much what I went through with a sibling and then we didnt talk for a little while and now they're back to pretending everything is completely normal including our relationship and we just dont talk about the seattle marathon they just ran in or the office or their soccer teams or whatever. It's very shallow. I realized a lot of people like to stay out of the deep end. The machine grinds on.
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We're all playing chicken with mother nature though good luck in the upcoming famines and omicron is gonna scythe through all populations not just the deniers covid denialism has done great harm, especially politically, but in individuals, as risk increases there's less daylight between that and fatalism. This isn't to defend or condemn fatalism with this but I agree with the earlier poster who said that we're seeing a paradoxical psychological response to massive crises. Giving up to save your mental energy and blaming others to maintain some semblance of a just world isnt illogical under these conditions Aka how I learned to stop worrying and love the spike
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Thoguh posted:Lots of "I told you so you loving assholes" energy on COVID twitter this morning. look at this hopeless optimist, thinking that we will still have public health classes in the coming decades
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:This is pretty much what I went through with a sibling and then we didnt talk for a little while and now they're back to pretending everything is completely normal including our relationship and we just dont talk about the seattle marathon they just ran in or the office or their soccer teams or whatever. It's very shallow. I realized a lot of people like to stay out of the deep end. The machine grinds on. Yeah I mean also don't poo poo on someone for not blowing up their in person career, I'd have to probably like move in with my wife's parents if I switched to something WFH because I have very little marketable WFH skills, and my in laws and wife all work with the public anyway
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nigel thornberry posted:look at this hopeless optimist, thinking that we will still have public health classes in the coming decades they will be taught in Mandarin
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durrneez posted:honestly, if it weren’t for my online friends and my coding bootcamp and this thread, i’d have lost my loving poo poo a long time ago. the weird thing for me is that shortly after all this started I set up my own discord and got a bunch of my friends from, basically, the last 25 years of my life to sign on, and we video and smoke weed etc together and commiserate about lovely local policies, etc. So I have kind of created a parallel, depressingly Gibsonesque social support system in my life that nearly exclusively involves people I know in meatspace but mostly don't see anyway. I have a friend from VA that I used to smoke weed with after work most days, and we had fallen to "monthly contact" status. Now we have a usual ~5pm burn session at the end of my work day over video, sometimes others join us. Sometimes I stream whatever game I am playing, or others do. It's loving weird and I'd feel super isolated if I didn't also have a flesh and blood family living with me, but the IRC-like culture of modern Discord with self-forged servers has definitely been a plus.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:are 3m 8233's any good? They’re expensive for what they are, but I bought a few last year because they were available and I figured it was the maximum degree of protection that I may be allowed in some places, e.g. on a plane. This was also before I could get my hands on any valveless N99s. I took one out of its bag to verify fit. It’s good. I could wear it, probably across the Pacific in relative comfort if I had to. Maybe I should wear one till it gives up just to see how long it lasts, but so far I haven’t. I’ve just saved them for a rainy day. Honeywell’s comparable product is much lower profile. I bought one recently. Again, it fits, but I haven’t done anything else with it. It’s lower profile than 3M’s, for whatever that’s worth.
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Stoop Kid posted:they will be taught in Mandarin lol, good point
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paperwind posted:I find it funny that the C-SPAM thread's group consensus on the pandemic is indistinguishable from that of the CDC and the Biden Administration. Healthy young poster goes to YouTube, gets pumped with massive shot of nonsense, doesn't feel good and changes - BRAINWORMS. Many such probations!
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SplitSoul posted:Confirmed Omicron cases from the high school Christmas party is now 53 out of 150 attendees. lol, what? Missed this one somehow
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