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How are u posted:Hopefully he croaks on his own, and soon. Or maybe somebody will poison him like he's poisoned so many others. Dude's very active, I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon. The only way he dies soon is either aggressive cancer or a rival bumping him off.
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I think Russia invading other countries is bad and should be resisted.
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drilldo squirt posted:I think Russia invading other countries is bad and should be resisted. Drilldo you could join an azov battalion and stand as a defender of the victims of communism
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drilldo squirt posted:I think Russia invading other countries is bad and should be resisted. great, any suggestions?
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We could give them weapons?
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I'm not exactly the type of guy with geopolitical experience.
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Maybe station some troops to dissuade the Russians from attacking?
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drilldo squirt posted:I'm not exactly the type of guy with geopolitical experience. That you can admit this places your skillset and experience far above the people who ACTUALLY affect the US' geopolitical strategy, who believe themselves to be highly skilled and cunning, despite a legacy of complete and utter failure. Let that sink in before believing those people should intervene in this situation.
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drilldo squirt posted:We could give them weapons? Taxpayer money is already buying the finest weapons from the best defense contractors on the planet and handing them to Ukrainian troops and militias who aren't trained in their use. drilldo squirt posted:Maybe station some troops to dissuade the Russians from attacking? And risk triple digit ARE TROOPS bodybags in the leadup to the elections, for a nation we have no formal defense treaty with? Are you nuts?
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Biden spoke out against Slavic unity today. He stated that the Austro-hungaruajsbeere the true leaders of the slavs and will bring them to Valhalla. Okay in reality no one here loving cares. NATO is making tiny meaningless threats that amount to strongly drafted letters as anothe poster hilariously said. It would be nice for Russia to not destroy Ukraine but I am unsure at this point. Unsure that they will invade or not invade that is. Unfortunately if they do Invade it will cause ripples that if which the world hasn't seen since we were faux isolatinists In the interwar period. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Any situation that results in Americans shooting at Russians should probably be avoided. It seems easier to avoid that than avoiding Ukraine being occupied. It sucks, but that's the reality. If we or NATO put any troops in place it will just escalate to the point of horror show pretty quickly if Russia decided to invade anyway. I don't know if that would be the result, but the potential for escalation would be very high. We should probably offer humanitarian aid and grant asylum to anyone fleeing at the minimum. At the maximum I would say increased defensive arms sales, international sanctions, and assisting nations off of the dependence on Russian oil. How will western Europe respond?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:How will western Europe respond? Wondering if the closer border with Russia will reduce gas prices?
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quote:Any situation that results in Americans shooting at Russians should probably be avoided. It seems easier to avoid that than avoiding Ukraine being occupied. It sucks, but that's the reality. If we or NATO put any troops in place it will just escalate to the point of horror show pretty quickly if Russia decided to invade anyway. I don't know if that would be the result, but the potential for escalation would be very high. Tbh that's what people said about Syria, that the US needs to get out or Russia will start WW3, but turning 200-300 Russian mercs attacking the US base into minced meat had a positive, calming effect on the conflict In other news pretty concerning stuff: https://www.ft.com/content/b287f2e3-3b8b-4095-b704-c255a943c84c US intelligence-sharing convinces allies of Russian threat to Ukraine quote:
quote:Dude's very active, I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon. The only way he dies soon is either aggressive cancer or a rival bumping him off He's been sitting in an underground bunker for the whole epidemic having zoom calls listening to people whine about bad roads and him being a murderer. He might be physically healthy but there's s good chance he's not all there mentally anymore especially if he's been watching russian television that has been hours of people screaming about horrors of Ukraine daily for the past 7+ years Somaen fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Drilldo you could join an azov battalion and stand as a defender of the victims of communism Boy howdy, if you think the azov battalion is bad, you can look at the DNR leadership if you like. Putin loves neo-nazis.
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Slavic neo nazis will never not be confusing.
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Fascism is just my group is so awesome and we love violence and killing people to take their stuff, it's not limited to Aryans or whatever
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GABA ghoul posted:That describes the lasts invasion too though. After 2014 Russia has become politically and economically isolated. It has been experiencing massive economic troubles as a result. Crimea and Donbas are huge financial burdens. Millions of people have been displaced, tens of thousands are dead. Overall, the invasion was a huge disaster for the Russian people, but he still went ahead with it. He is not exactly a rational actor. It's been seven years since then and Putin's hold on power remains steady. He's unopposed domestically and an important figure internationally. From that point of view (which is IMO the most important point of view), the decision to invade was good. It's doubtful he'd keep the Russian reins for decades by being a good international neighbor and investing in roads and schools. I honestly don't get all this Putin crazy/irrational/mad/blah blah D&D talk.
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Putin's not crazy, he's just an rear end in a top hat
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Yeah Putin's not crazy, he's playing to his base with stuff like this.mobby_6kl posted:Putin's not crazy, he's just an rear end in a top hat
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https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/Market-data1/Dayahead/Area-Prices/ALL1/Hourly/?view=table Estimated cost of electricity tomorrow morning in the Baltic states will be over 1000€/MWh. Incredible.
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jonnypeh posted:https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/Market-data1/Dayahead/Area-Prices/ALL1/Hourly/?view=table I, for one, commends the anti crypto mining commitment of the Baltic states.
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jonnypeh posted:https://www.nordpoolgroup.com/Market-data1/Dayahead/Area-Prices/ALL1/Hourly/?view=table I hope my utility bill is not going to be as incredible, but then again I’m pretty sure my building is on some fixed rate deal since the price per kWh this year, in any given month, has been below that of the last year.
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Doctor Malaver posted:It's been seven years since then and Putin's hold on power remains steady. He's unopposed domestically and an important figure internationally. From that point of view (which is IMO the most important point of view), the decision to invade was good. It's doubtful he'd keep the Russian reins for decades by being a good international neighbor and investing in roads and schools. I honestly don't get all this Putin crazy/irrational/mad/blah blah D&D talk. From a solipsistic clinging to power perspective that is true, but most people judge a leader based on how they rule a country and what kind of legacy they are leaving behind. Putin is firmly batshit crazy by those standards after: - one million excess deaths to covid - political enemies killed, imprisoned or exiled - no vision for a future, obsessed with past - population's wages stagnant or declining since 2014 as is social spending, this is despite an enormous hoard of oil revenue - free press, civil society repressed and silenced - etc
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Estonia and Hungary have vetoed the minimum corporate tax rate reform. Not even Ireland, Netherlands, and Poland have done that, impressive.
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Folks tend to confuse "acting under a different calculus than my own" with "irrational". If you and I choose different flavors of ice cream at the ice cream truck, neither of us is irrational merely for lack of arriving at the same choice. If, however, you ask the attendant for a zirconium-plated mecha-platypus and attack them when they look at you quizzically, you just might be irrational.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Folks tend to confuse "acting under a different calculus than my own" with "irrational". If you and I choose different flavors of ice cream at the ice cream truck, neither of us is irrational merely for lack of arriving at the same choice. If, however, you ask the attendant for a zirconium-plated mecha-platypus and attack them when they look at you quizzically, you just might be irrational. And if you rob the poor ice cream man and force him to surrender his truck to you at gunpoint, ice creams and all, you are not only being rational, you also win
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Somaen posted:From a solipsistic clinging to power perspective that is true, but most people judge a leader based on how they rule a country and what kind of legacy they are leaving behind. Putin is firmly batshit crazy by those standards after: I think we all agree on those points, but they are only secondary when trying to predict Russia's future actions (which is what everyone's been doing - predicting whether Russia will invade or not, cut gas to Europe or not etc). These actions will be determined by Putin's "solipsism" : Which outcome of this crisis will benefit me personally the most? What will leave me in power 5-10 years from now, unopposed domestically and important internationally?
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Doctor Malaver posted:I think we all agree on those points, but they are only secondary when trying to predict Russia's future actions (which is what everyone's been doing - predicting whether Russia will invade or not, cut gas to Europe or not etc). These actions will be determined by Putin's "solipsism" : Which outcome of this crisis will benefit me personally the most? What will leave me in power 5-10 years from now, unopposed domestically and important internationally? I already said this two weeks ago but what we're going to end up with are a sanctions package that hurts the average Russian but does nothing against Putin or the oligarchs or Russia's military, and a heavily militarized NATO border. Both of these things are domestic political goldmines, from his perspective.
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Doctor Malaver posted:I think we all agree on those points, but they are only secondary when trying to predict Russia's future actions (which is what everyone's been doing - predicting whether Russia will invade or not, cut gas to Europe or not etc). These actions will be determined by Putin's "solipsism" : Which outcome of this crisis will benefit me personally the most? What will leave me in power 5-10 years from now, unopposed domestically and important internationally? Yes, totally agree -- I was referring to calling him mad and irrational being a fairly accurate assessment from a normal everyday human perspective since after 20 years in power and incredible oil wealth he squandered everything while also strategically making an enemy out of a culturally close nation. This does not mean that his thinking doesn't follow a logical and predictable pattern that you can follow based on him being a power hungry and unexplainably money grubbing evil rear end in a top hat with the usual Soviet/russian nationalist folklore painting his assessment of reality common to any Soviet-raised grandpa
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Putin and Biden to discuss tensions around Ukraine, NATO's advance towards Russian borders and Russian President's initiative on security guarantees - Kremlin Lol security gurantee like a buffer state. Let's call it the kyivan republic of West dniper Here's news: Downing Street says Boris Johnson and the leaders of the United States, Italy, France and Germany have agreed to present a "united front" against Russian threats towards Ukraine  WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Dec 7, 2021 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:I just received word that Ukrainian forces have made an attack on a Russian radio station near the border! They transmitted a short anti-Russian message in Ukrainian. Several attackers in uniform were left behind with posthumous gunshot wounds. Turns out history is basically Hitlers all the way down, man.
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It's about -10 today on the Belarus border. I hope most Iraqis were evacuated out by now
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Putin? Hitler. Andrew Jackson? Hitler. Winston Churchill? Hitler. Hitler? Hitler. I think only two of those attacked and conquered a neighbouring country. Well, one of them, the other is still in the process.
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Depends how you classify Chechnya.
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And Ireland Up the 'RA
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Hitler posted:Putin? Hitler. Andrew Jackson? Hitler. Winston Churchill? Hitler. Hitler? Hitler.
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Erulisse posted:I think only two of those attacked and conquered a neighbouring country. Well, one of them, the other is still in the process.
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aphid_licker posted:And Ireland And the Cherokee nation
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I dunno man when I think of Hitler the main quality doesn't really come up as "attacked and conquered a neighboring country". Like, don't get me wrong, that's a hosed up thing to do, but like, cmon.
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