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pantslesswithwolves posted:Kind of reminds me of the Face on Mars, specifically, the episode of the X-Files where a ghost-like extraterrestrial with that "face" possessed an astronaut and made him sabotage a space shuttle mission. NOTHING scared me more than that episode the first time I saw it, but just I think we all suspected this, but
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at this screengrab from it:
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I accidently lost a game playing this card on DEFCON 2. Opponent boycotted causing nuclear war and Soviets winning.
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Nick Soapdish posted:I accidently lost a game playing this card on DEFCON 2. Opponent boycotted causing nuclear war and Soviets winning. I think that's a sign that the game might need a rules update.
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Nick Soapdish posted:I accidently lost a game playing this card on DEFCON 2. Opponent boycotted causing nuclear war and Soviets winning. This game would be in my favorite if the AI didn’t take so loving long on every turn.
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Dec 6, 2021 16:54
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Pfft screw Defcon. This is where it's at!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=825lg1lUrj8 It's actually insanely fun, nearly impossible to win (people have done it), and I'd kill for an open source real world update of this.
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Dec 6, 2021 16:58
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:IMPERIALIST 'MERICA REAL BAD, CHINA NOT SO BAD  The decision's proximate cause is the continued disappearance of Peng Shuai. She made sexual assault allegations against a party official and has since been subjected to a month or two of who knows what, with the only reason we know she's not dead is that she's been trotted forth in extremely controlled circumstances that unambiguously indicates a hostage situation. It's a clear threat by the CCP against it's population that airing any grievance that reflects poorly on the state might get you and your family house arrest at best, tortured and summarily executed say worst. Classic tyrant's playbook, but I guess it should be celebrated because US also bad in lesser ways? The WTA has had the ovaries to put its profits in China on the line and stand with its athlete. The IOC and other organizations have acted true to their elite kleptocratic nature and not only have not objected, but have actively aided the regime in its efforts to reduce international outrage by taking part in the hostage videos. It's utterly loving heinous, even for the IOC. Please folks, don't watch the Olympics. Also, I know "wahh, evil US no help world with vaccines" has become a meme asking those eager to find any and every excuse to hate on the US, but I never see any actual context beyond general handwaving. Do you want to actually evidence whatever your complaint is? I know it's probably just more imperialist propaganda, but the DoS says they intended to donate 1.2b doses currently and have done 200m so far.
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Dec 6, 2021 17:07
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Pfft screw Defcon. This is where it's at! Looks cool flipping through but hell if I'm gonna listen to the reviewer literally yawn his way through the game. Good god edit the video my dude
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Dec 6, 2021 17:15
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Soul Dentist posted:Looks cool flipping through but hell if I'm gonna listen to the reviewer literally yawn his way through the game. Good god edit the video my dude Yeah, sadly there is very very little coverage out there. Luckily you can find the game all over the internet. And holy poo poo I found the manual. Had it once years ago, before I lost it in a hard drive crash. https://retro-commodore.eu/files/downloads/amigamanuals-xiik.net/Games/Bravo%20Romeo%20Delta%20-%20Manual-ENG.pdf
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Dec 6, 2021 17:25
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I think that's a sign that the game might need a rules update. Nah, avoiding defcon traps is a large portion of early skill strategy.
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silvergoose posted:Nah, avoiding defcon traps is a large portion of early skill strategy. I mean I do get it, it's just the idea of Nuclear War getting trip off by that is kind of silly (which isn't unique in nuclear war scenarios admittedly). Perhaps allow it to degrade the Defcon status, but not hit 1.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:What is that game? Pretty sure it's Twilight Struggle
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Here is a web version of BRD for anyone interested in trying the USA side. But it can be downloaded all over the place for both sides. https://classicreload.com/bravo-romeo-delta.html US https://www.myabandonware.com/game/bravo-romeo-delta-23y/play-23y Russian
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MazelTovCocktail posted:I mean I do get it, it's just the idea of Nuclear War getting trip off by that is kind of silly (which isn't unique in nuclear war scenarios admittedly). Perhaps allow it to degrade the Defcon status, but not hit 1. The idea is that if you’re already at DEFCON 2 or 3, you don’t do poo poo that could possibly piss off the other guy.
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FrozenVent posted:The idea is that if you’re already at DEFCON 2 or 3, you don’t do poo poo that could possibly piss off the other guy. Like I said I do get it, just the idea of Andropov sitting at the opening games and going, "oh they didn't show up GLASS EVERYTHING" is just very silly, but that's the point I assume.
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I seem to remember someone posting itt about the paper that was expected to detail the creation of an actual warp drive on a small scale. The paper dropped, and it's bullshit. Just a model apparently. They haven't actually built the proposed tiny version to test it and have no plans to do so.quote:When asked by The Debrief in December if his team has built and tested this proposed nano-scale warp craft design since that August announcement, or if they have plans to do so, White said, “We have not manufactured the one-micron sphere in the middle of a 4-micron cylinder.” However, he noted, if the LSI team were to undertake that at some point, “we’d probably use a nanoscribe GT 3D printer that prints at the nanometer scale.” In short, they have the means, now they just need the opportunity.
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Dec 6, 2021 18:14
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Okay fess up which one of you is working for the Global Times now? I wonder what could possibly explain a lot of people in this forum being broadly skeptical of media narratives, especially on foreign policy.
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Dec 6, 2021 18:30
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Best Friends posted:I wonder what could possibly explain a lot of people in this forum being broadly skeptical of media narratives, especially on foreign policy. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 18:35
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MazelTovCocktail posted:There is a difference between being skeptical and critical of US Foreign and/or Domestic Policy and going Full On Glenn Greenwald and/or Twitter Tankie, but for China, instead of Putin's Russia and Trump. Not really! I got called a "tankie" here for saying China did not want to literally genocide Taiwan. Any push back on anti China narratives at all is out of bounds to the Reasonable Moderates.
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Best Friends posted:Not really! I got called a "tankie" here for saying China did not want to literally genocide Taiwan. Any push back on anti China narratives at all is out of bounds to the Reasonable Moderate. Did China ban the cross you are trying to put yourself on or? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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If you guys want a forum where you can say whatever crazy poo poo you want about China with zero pushback and saying "hmmm not sure the nytimes is on the level here" gets you banned, these forums do actually have a place that will make your dreams come true. Not sure why you thought the veteran forum would be it tho. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Okay fess up which one of you is working for the Global Times now? Lmao they’re missing that small detail that party membersship is effectively less-hereditary aristocratic class and no loving way those includes all the people living in the remote parts of the west. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/09/vaccine-apartheid-covid-pandemic-covax-us-trips-waiver/ https://www.justsecurity.org/79403/omicron-the-variant-that-vaccine-apartheid-built/ Yeah I’m just here to defend the regime I explicitly called genocidal in my post. Am I going to be a Russian influence op next? Yeah the US and it’s intermediares like the IMF is totally crushing it on all that foreign aid and loan/policy mandates though no good reason like half the world hates us they just don’t get it that we totally mean well. What does it say about the US that a lot of their would countries would rather deal with loving China than the US now?
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China is ahead of us in the jailing/killing billionaires categories, a statistic we probably should start catching up on.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:What does it say about the US that a lot of their would countries would rather deal with loving China than the US now?
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Carteret posted:Pretty sure it's Twilight Struggle Looks interesting. Reminds me of DEFCON but with a different aesthetic Good video on it by a small time goon content creator https://youtu.be/poHX5edGkVM
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Lmao they’re missing that small detail that party membersship is effectively less-hereditary aristocratic class and no loving way those includes all the people living in the remote parts of the west. CRUSTY MINGE posted:China is ahead of us in the jailing/killing billionaires categories, a statistic we probably should start catching up on.
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Cugel the Clever posted:"take quantifiable measures to ensure this doesn't all get funneled to the elite in power" and "make an effort to hold meaningful democratic elections". Okay your turn to provide examples of this ever happening because I just linked examples of how the west has required them to take deals that funnel money back to our billionaires.
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Medina Spirit has information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:China is ahead of us in the jailing/killing billionaires categories, a statistic we probably should start catching up on. We can not allow a guillotine gap.
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Cugel the Clever posted:lol, that's because Western money often comes with perky strings attached like "take quantifiable measures to ensure this doesn't all get funneled to the elite in power" and "make an effort to hold meaningful democratic elections". China has no such compunctions against straight up filling the coffers of kleptocratic elites to bolster its influence and make its victims deeply endebted to it. The West sure doesn't have a great track record on that, either, but it at least is kind of trying depending on the admin in power. Well let's not go crazy here. Western Foreign Aid has been at times equally if not more hilariously corrupt then even what the East was doing (look at the France and The Central African Empire). That said while their have been attempts to improve transparency and accountability in the West (regardless of the actual success sup Afghan National Army), I'd say it's fair to say that the PRC doesn't really care about those issues being top priorities though. Honestly they seem more in wanting to jump into a quasi "Scramble for Africa", but just a little late. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Honestly I just thought it was funny claiming 90% participation, because honestly it reminds of those Saddam elections, but even the PRC said....uhh we have to be reasonable and still came up with 90%. It's interesting that for the person making the chart turnout seems to be most important aspect, kind of a little on the nose for the performative part of elections in non-democratic states (and not unique to the PRC of course). They have mumps?
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Honestly I just thought it was funny claiming 90% participation, because honestly it reminds of those Saddam elections, but even the PRC said....uhh we have to be reasonable and still came up with 90%. It's interesting that for the person making the chart turnout seems to be most important aspect, kind of a little on the nose for the performative part of elections in non-democratic states (and not unique to the PRC of course). The book the logic of political survival makes a pretty good case that China and the US are both much more similar in how “democratic” most Americans would like to they are (though still not that close) but with opposite mechanisms on how they control (China gate keeps the nominal electorate from the general population using the party, while the US has a broad electorate that can freely participate but uses the electoral college, registration/district fuckery and two party system to (less successfully) lock out outsiders). To be clear though the US is still very much a “democracy” by any reasonable definition just among the most flawed of the major ones.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:China is ahead of us in the jailing/killing billionaires categories, a statistic we probably should start catching up on. IMO this is just really just Xi consolidating power than any ideology, the exact same process played out in Russia. Don’t get me wrong I’d like the Sacklers to face justice but the “isn’t it rad that China kills some billionaires” just seems kinda not it. As Xi tightens his grip over the party and country I think China has the potential to become a much scarier thing than it already is because until Xi ethnonationalism wasn’t really part of the rhetoric and policy but has rapidly accelerated.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:The book the logic of political survival makes a pretty good case that China and the US are both much more similar in how “democratic” most Americans would like to they are (though still not that close) but with opposite mechanisms on how they control (China gate keeps the nominal electorate from the general population using the party, while the US has a broad electorate that can freely participate but uses the electoral college, registration/district fuckery and two party system to (less successfully) lock out outsiders). I'll admit that that is an interesting way to look at it and I can see it. That said I'd argue that the PRC legislature being a total rump one, is what separates it from say, the way Senators used to be selected, but using Communist window dressing, but as you point out the US is still an actual (though very flawed) democracy, does the book examine that angle? Honestly the US gerrymandering one reminds me more of rotten boroughs that used to exist in the UK. SMEGMA_MAIL posted:IMO this is just really just Xi consolidating power than any ideology, the exact same process played out in Russia.  Also watching Xi do those cringe as gently caress military parades in the car with all the microphones, makes me happy the US military found a way to tell Trump...sorry can't do that...tanks will gently caress up the road. Even more Cringey when he dresses up in military uniforms or Mao cosplay. Also very good point on the ethnonationalism aspect. That's why I always use the terms PRC or CCP when talking about the state and leadership. Xi probably beats himself raw at the idea of inserting himself as the protector of China and Chinese at home and abroad. It's like "dude pretty sure a lot of people of Chinese descent don't want you repping them." Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Here is a web version of BRD for anyone interested in trying the USA side. But it can be downloaded all over the place for both sides. "Draw" my rear end:  (SS-18 Mod 3s are just straight up cheating)
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BIG HEADLINE posted:"Draw" my rear end: Oh yeah those SS-18 Satans are usually my first target (although apparently the real way to win according to a poster here who did it, was degrading the Comms and Early Warning Stuff) with some of my Peacekeepers or the first to use if I'm doing the Commonwealth...which was good...for escalating things. You have no idea how long I've been playing this and the best I got was a draw. Part of the problem is the game needed more features and data. Honestly someone rebuilding this in Command: Modern Operations (and being able to run it) would be really awesome. Ignoring the awful video I linked above, I did find a nice writeup someone did, which does a decent job explaining it, sans manual. https://jasonlefkowitz.net/2014/11/choreographing-armageddon-bravo-romeo-delta/ Also this version 1.2 of the game allows you to see the stats without quitting and to save iirc. https://archive.org/details/msdos_Bravo_Romeo_Delta_1993 Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Selectorate theory is a game theory model of politics that I think is much better and both expands and fixes the ideas from the the more well known theory talked about in “Why Nations Fail” If you want to read more the “Dictator’s Handbook” is sorta the math-free general public explanation of the theory. Much like any sociology framework its predictive power is debatable but probably among one of the more evidence based ones. I’ll be honest I’ve also read their actual academic publication but I don’t understand most of the notation specific t game theory and barely understood any of the technical aspects beyond maybe what each variable was so I recommend the Dictators handbook instead of the actual book Logic of Political Survival. GCP grey also did a video on it but I think he Malcolm Gladwell’ed it and got a lot of stuff wrong and over-simplified.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Selectorate theory is a game theory model of politics that I think is much better and both expands and fixes the ideas from the the more well known theory talked about in “Why Nations Fail” Thanks! I'll have to take a look at it. Especially the Dictators Handbook, reminds of Coup D'état by Luttwak, like a practical guide without all the Deltas so to speak. I know people have pointed out Luttwak's flaws...and he's pointed out the books (as the one dude in Africa who was a Defense minister who tried using it...did not end well). Still I love reading it and I really need to look at the newer edition. It's kind of why Managing Nuclear Operations fascinated me so much when I found it in college, as it explained how nuclear targeting (among many other things) are actually done, which never normally gets talked about. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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