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Everyone on Discovery is a mid-decker Only Michael Burnham is an upper-decker
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Dec 7, 2021 16:31
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Is Gray even allowed to stay on Discovery? It was a ship designed with a super secret sport drive, not one with families.
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Dec 7, 2021 16:37
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happyhippy posted:Is Gray even allowed to stay on Discovery? They let the murderous cannibal dictator of another universe run buck wild around the ship for a while without giving a poo poo so I doubt they’re worried
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Dec 7, 2021 17:04
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Butternubs posted:Say what you want about Alex Kurtzman (Hack, Idiot, Bad at writing, Dumb etc.) But he's completely immune to any type of criticism. He just keeps ploughing along completely oblivious to any type of feedback, His shows just get worse and worse with no sign of stopping, and you have to respect that. When you put it like that, I'm surprised HBO didn't poach him for one of the GoT spinoffs.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:06
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happyhippy posted:Is Gray even allowed to stay on Discovery? I mean, Adira seems to have stayed because Michael slapped a pip on their collar and basically drafted them.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:08
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Book gets to stay because he’s the captain’s consort?
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Dec 7, 2021 17:17
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egg tats posted:and yeah, not ONLY is tilly going through michaels bullshit from last season, it's explicitly reversing her arc from the last 2 seasons, since she was in training to switch to the command track and very much seemed like she wanted to be captain someday. after episode 1 I was assuming she was for some reason on the presidents shortlist for voyager Oh it was very much a big part of her character, literally the first episode with her in it has her tell Michael 'Here's a thing most people don't know about me. I'm gonna be a Captain someday.'
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Dec 7, 2021 17:28
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The_Doctor posted:Yay, caught up with the thread. Took me slightly longer than watching the 3 eps of Disco. Oh geez, I hope you're wrong but I feel that you're right. Still, what a horrible choice that would be. Isn't Grey literally a child? Not even a prodigy or anything, no connection to Tal anymore, so just a regular traumatized kid. I cannot imagine ever going to a therapist who was a teenager. It's already bad enough Culber is suddenly ship's councilors + Saru for the alternative medicine approach. What they need is somebody from the future, trained in modern technology and methodology, to be the ship therapist. tangent: has anyone besides Burnham bothered to try and see any relatives? I wouldn't give a big poo poo about my 900 years later descendents, presumably they are all ugly as hell and massive jerks by then, but still, I'd google em at least just to see what's up.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:51
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The real Grey died, what they have now is the Trill memory-ghost of Grey who thinks they're a real person.
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Dec 7, 2021 17:58
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Khanstant posted:tangent: has anyone besides Burnham bothered to try and see any relatives? I wouldn't give a big poo poo about my 900 years later descendents, presumably they are all ugly as hell and massive jerks by then, but still, I'd google em at least just to see what's up. Non burnham characters aren't real, op
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Dec 7, 2021 18:10
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HD DAD posted:“mid-deckers” i just want more lower decks
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Dec 7, 2021 18:20
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The_Doctor posted:Book gets to stay because he’s the captain’s consort? I think he's officially a civilian security advisor to Starfleet or something along those lines
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Dec 7, 2021 19:00
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hiddenriverninja posted:i just want more lower decks
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Dec 7, 2021 19:07
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hiddenriverninja posted:i just want more lower decks
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Dec 7, 2021 19:14
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The Chairman posted:I think he's officially a civilian security advisor to Starfleet or something along those lines Yeah, Book still being onboard makes sense because as a courier he’s kind of like a guide to all the various planets and cultures Disco is trying to reconnect. That’s why he was advising Burnham in diplomacy with the butterfly idiots. Which also makes him Neelix, if Neelix had been sleeping with Janeway 
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Dec 7, 2021 19:15
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hiddenriverninja posted:i just want more lower decks
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Dec 7, 2021 19:20
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skasion posted:They let the murderous cannibal dictator of another universe run buck wild around the ship for a while without giving a poo poo so I doubt they’re worried hiddenriverninja posted:i just want more lower decks
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Dec 7, 2021 19:37
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hiddenriverninja posted:i just want more lower decks The monkey paw's fingers twitch quote:With so much Star Trek going on, Kurtzman was asked if we are “going to see some significant crossovers.” While not providing any specific plans, Kurtzman revealed crossovers have been on his mind: https://trekmovie.com/2021/12/06/alex-kurtzman-talks-inevitable-star-trek-universe-crossover-says-section-31-show-is-still-alive/
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Dec 7, 2021 20:32
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The crossover will be AGIMUS being installed as Michael's first officer
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Dec 7, 2021 20:34
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The LDS VAs turning up as their characters in Picard would be amazing honestly.
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Dec 7, 2021 20:57
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I'd enjoy a blink-and-you'll miss it cameo of the three just hanging out, no need for anything more than that
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Dec 7, 2021 20:59
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Tars Tarkas posted:The monkey paw's fingers twitch I don’t like the guy as much as the next person, but nothing he’s said there is… wrong?
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Dec 7, 2021 23:36
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The_Doctor posted:If I had a robot body, I’d absolutely start tricking it out. Especially if programmable matter is now a factor. If Grey becomes Inspector Gadget I might become a fan of this stupid show.
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Dec 8, 2021 00:21
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The_Doctor posted:If I had a robot body, I’d absolutely start tricking it out. Especially if programmable matter is now a factor. i wish i hadn't read this because immediately you get a bunch of cool ideas where it could be used but know that it just ain't gonna happen. I wonder where they plan to go with these two anyway, so far their whole deal has been just "two young people who are way too close and dependent + scifi of that." Adira's best use so far was just being the future-superior whizkid but they haven't really used thatagain since first introduction.
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Dec 8, 2021 00:52
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The Bloop posted:The disco neck things are bad because THEY DON"T EVEN SHOW RANK (there are small pips on the neck things)
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Dec 8, 2021 02:14
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Yeah, you can see it probably most clearly on Vance or maybe Michael and Saru cuz they have a bunch of pips due to their rank. Also Linus is apparently still a junior Lt.
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Dec 8, 2021 03:15
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The Bloop posted:But like, maybe the host remembers remembering the memories they once remembered. That's kinda how it works; As-presented/inferred from DS9, how Trill symbionts work is the Host gets a whole lot of psychological training to prepare themselves for the Joining, because once it's done things get a bit muddled. What happens is the Symbiont jacks in like an organic USB device and whatever memories it has of past hosts are Joined to the current Host's own memories. So while they gain a shitload of knowledge and experience, it's all subjective and they've gotta be able to sort out what is actually their own memories and what belonged to someone else of a different gender who died a century back. Eg; That time you went out to lunch with a friend last week, and that time a past host went out to lunch with a friend two hundred years ago. It's what you see Ezri dealing with in Season 7. If you yank out the symbiont, the Host still has whatever they've subjectively experienced, so all the stuff they've recalled or learned from it is still gonna be there.
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Dec 8, 2021 04:14
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Bilirubin posted:(there are small pips on the neck things) I specifically looked more than once so they're lovely if so I saw 4 on Michael's and Saru's but zero elsewhere 
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Dec 8, 2021 04:53
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The Bloop posted:I specifically looked more than once so they're lovely if so Aside from the size of the pips, you can see the immediate problem on the right in that shot; The character looks down and they disappear. Disco feels like it's had a real problem with not screen-testing their uniforms since day-one with the blue/gold ones, and all the problems those apparently had, because these should be real easy issues to catch and correct in preproduction. This isn't even a hard problem to solve; Put the pips horizontally on the black vertical stripe. It'd be distinct and visible from most angles, and calls back to TNG-era uniforms.
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Dec 8, 2021 05:15
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The Bloop posted:I specifically looked more than once so they're lovely if so I love how the composition of that pic makes it look like Owo accidentally just put someone really gross up on the view screen and is desperately trying to close the window.
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Dec 8, 2021 05:53
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nine-gear crow posted:I love how the composition of that pic makes it look like Owo accidentally just put someone really gross up on the view screen and is desperately trying to close the window. Used programmable matter to create a live action Tubgirl.
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Dec 8, 2021 05:59
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If Owo has pips like Michael's, they'd be visible in that shot
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Dec 8, 2021 06:03
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Yeah I’m pretty sure only captains and dadmirals have pips on the neck thing. Everyone else just has the same two lines that mean nothing because this show is terrible about displaying rank.
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Dec 8, 2021 06:06
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For all the skill and quality in most of the production design, they have had like, four uniforms so far and they all sucked? I don't know poo poo about making clothes but it seems odd that this is the one thing they just can't seem to manage.
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Dec 8, 2021 06:22
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I haven't seen the last two seasons, but that picture doesn't look too bad? A little wetsuit looking maybe?
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Dec 8, 2021 06:34
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The priest collar tab placement for the rank thing is weird and reminds me of those heavier foily sticker labels you sometimes see, but otherwise, it's a pretty slick uniform this season. Looking again, it seems like they're basically identical to the grey ones introduced end of season 3. Same pattern, just swapped grey for the better looking primaries, kept the asymmetrical cut and such.
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Dec 8, 2021 06:58
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nine-gear crow posted:I love how the composition of that pic makes it look like Owo accidentally just put someone really gross up on the view screen and is desperately trying to close the window. "Viewscreen on" *Programmable matter morphs out the pattern of colossal hands opening a hole in the center of the monitor, spreading outwards in a circle*
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Dec 8, 2021 08:06
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I thought the V shaped bars were the rank bars at first until last week I noticed they were all the same.
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Dec 8, 2021 08:38
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Grand Fromage posted:For all the skill and quality in most of the production design, they have had like, four uniforms so far and they all sucked? I don't know poo poo about making clothes but it seems odd that this is the one thing they just can't seem to manage. I like the new ones, but they need a few tweaks. I wish the command red was a little less bright, the rank poo poo needs to be simplified, the pips on badges concept was neat in theory but it clearly doesn’t work in camera, and the collars need to be open. Just give them Nehru-style collars and TNG pips and call it a day. Maybe make the pips into the arrowheads or something if you’re feeling really ambitious.
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Dec 8, 2021 08:48
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Just use Mike's dress uniform from 4x01, pop some pips on the collar and call it a day.
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Dec 8, 2021 11:06
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