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sexpig by night posted:this isn't some kinda sexy book you're supposed to sympathize with, like Lolita! I'm pretty sure Nabokov intended that people read the whole book, so no you're not supposed to sympathize with Humbert.
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What complicates the issue is that King has attempted to shoehorn the scene into every book since, barely remembering to swap out character names or setting details. Usually the editors catch them, but 2010s Blockade Billy had two instances of the New Jersey Titans stopping to run trains in the dugout.
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Dec 8, 2021 06:22
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HopperUK posted:It doesn't though, she goes on to have miserable trauma in her later life and ends up in an abusive relationship. That said - yeah, it's presented as a Good Thing when it happens and I don't think, like you say, he meant it to be horny exactly. It just comes off really bizarre. Was he still on loads of cocaine at that time? I think there's an explanation about why all the loser's club have great professional success but zero personal success. But if I tried to think of what that was I'd be doing SK's job.
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Douche Wolf 89 posted:What complicates the issue is that King has attempted to shoehorn the scene into every book since, barely remembering to swap out character names or setting details. Usually the editors catch them, but 2010s Blockade Billy had two instances of the New Jersey Titans stopping to run trains in the dugout. I wish I could tell you that he fought the good fight uh... Young Stevie lost a good friend to a train before he had a way to express it. It's in his autobiography. He has a thing about trains.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean all of this for what if I remember is a scene were they talk about how big a fat kids penis is. Big dicks are incredibly spooky. The scariest ghosts have the largest hogs.
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I think putting art into exclusive categories of “good (not harmful)” and “bad (harmful)” is pretty reductive and we should probably not have such Manichaean views of the world
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Push El Burrito posted:Big dicks are incredibly spooky. The scariest ghosts have the largest hogs.
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So Slimer is the only visible part of a larger, much more terrifying ghost?
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Ghostbusters is already its own brand of horny as gently caress, which no one else seems to remember.
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Push El Burrito posted:Big dicks are incredibly spooky. The scariest ghosts have the largest hogs. Did they give you the willies? 
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:IT is also notable for a scene where one of the heroes realizes how dangerous the bullies are because she watches them suck each other’s dicks, which is probably the only non-evil thing they do in the entire book. They become especially dangerous at that point because they know she saw them, and figures that the head bully will happily murder her to make sure she tells nobody.
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sexpig by night posted:also the sewer gangbang is like, healing for the 11 year old girl, it fixes her trauma to get a train run on her by her friends.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Ghostbusters is already its own brand of horny as gently caress, which no one else seems to remember. That's what makes it so great. When you're a kid you just see these quippy guys busting Gozer and the Marshmallow man. Then as you grow up, every five years you discover a new layer of humor in the movie that you had no idea about before.
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evobatman posted:That's what makes it so great. When you're a kid you just see these quippy guys busting Gozer and the Marshmallow man. Then as you grow up, every five years you discover a new layer of humor in the movie that you had no idea about before.
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That Italian Guy posted:Ghostbusters is also, surprisingly, a movie about a group of bootstrapping entrepreneurs and how The Man tries to keep them down with pesky health&safety and environmental regulations (that are totally bs). I dont know if I'd want to see a full movie of it but I've always wanted to see an inversion of the plot where ghosts aren't real and the Ghostbusters are legitimately deliberate dangerous conmen instead of well-meaning dangerous borderline conmen Wouldn't even need to change venkman's character for it to work
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pretty soft girl posted:I dont know if I'd want to see a full movie of it but I've always wanted to see an inversion of the plot where ghosts aren't real and the Ghostbusters are legitimately deliberate dangerous conmen instead of well-meaning dangerous borderline conmen That's just every episode of Scooby Doo, though
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Asterite34 posted:That's just every episode of Scooby Doo, though god drat how did I never put those pieces together
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Was there any odd sex stuff in Running Man? I don't recall but all this Steven King talk is making me want to reread it.
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Pocket Billiards posted:Was there any odd sex stuff in Running Man? I don't recall but all this Steven King talk is making me want to reread it. Ben's wife occasionally works as a prostitute, but then they are destitute so that's hardly unbelievable. He's offered a hooker to keep him company after he gets selected for the show but declines. And he has a moment of anger when the rich woman he kidnaps starts complaining about her petty problems, but that's just a thought and he never acts on it. That's it, really. There's no time for anything else.
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:I wish I could tell you that he fought the good fight uh... Is this why the train dodging was such a big deal in Stand By Me(or whatever the short story was called)?
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Also since it’s already going that way you can like an author but still point to specific ideas and saying that was dumb. It’s okay it’s not a betrayal
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean all of this for what if I remember is a scene were they talk about how big a fat kids penis is. But what if it's haunted, or cursed? 
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Aces High posted:Is this why the train dodging was such a big deal in Stand By Me(or whatever the short story was called)? Yes. As King tells the story, he came home from playing with a friend practically catatonic with shock and having no idea of where he had been. It was discovered that the friend had been struck and killed by a train and King almost certainly witnessed it.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Does the evil monorail in The Dark Tower have any perversions? Not really a perversion but it does love riddles, and gets all pissy when Eddie starts trolling it with Dead Baby jokes because they aren't riddles and he won't shut up.
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BioEnchanted posted:Not really a perversion but it does love riddles, and gets all pissy when Eddie starts trolling it with Dead Baby jokes because they aren't riddles and he won't shut up. Yeah I think it's specifically very tight about any bodily functions even though it's racing for suicide over the death of its gf. drat dipolar circuitry.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Does the evil monorail in The Dark Tower have any perversions? He offers to give (12 year old) Jake his first 'simulated' sexual experience. So there's that.
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HopperUK posted:It doesn't though, she goes on to have miserable trauma in her later life and ends up in an abusive relationship. That said - yeah, it's presented as a Good Thing when it happens and I don't think, like you say, he meant it to be horny exactly. It just comes off really bizarre. Was he still on loads of cocaine at that time? Pretty sure this was one of his last coke books before he had to get clean to be functional. One soon after was written entirely in a blackout Edit: that was Tommyknockers, although It, Dark Tower 2, and Misery were written right before it and they're all top ten Randal has a new favorite as of 21:49 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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I believe Cujo is also one he specifically says he has absolutely no memory of writing.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I believe Cujo is also one he specifically says he has absolutely no memory of writing. Kudos to him for getting clean but I’m always baffled how he’s alive and healthy. Like writing a novel is not a short process even for a machine like him. That’s an industrial amount of coke to write a whole book and not recall.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Kudos to him for getting clean but I’m always baffled how he’s alive and healthy. Like writing a novel is not a short process even for a machine like him. That’s an industrial amount of coke to write a whole book and not recall. His inability to remember writing them owes more to his alcoholism than his coke fiendery.
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Yeah, he was not a well man. I'm glad he seems to be doing so much better lately. He seems fundamentally like a decent guy.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Kudos to him for getting clean but I’m always baffled how he’s alive and healthy. Like writing a novel is not a short process even for a machine like him. That’s an industrial amount of coke to write a whole book and not recall. IIRC it wasn't like the final draft just appeared on his desk, he just took what I assume was a borderline unreadable first draft he has no memory writing and cleaned it up. Scaramouche posted:I remember reading somewhere he barely remembers directing Maximum Overdrive I mean, you just need to look at his appearance in the trailer to know this is 100% true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWS4tTzs60 "A lot of people have directed Stephen King novels and stories and I finally decided if you want something done right you have to do it yourself". I fully understand King taking umbrage with the movie interpretations of his work but it takes some HEAVY coke to essentially imply "Yeah, I can do a better job than those hacks KUBRICK and DE PALMA" AceOfFlames has a new favorite as of 23:21 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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MariusLecter posted:What do you mean? Stephen King: inventor of The Expression
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Kudos to him for getting clean but I’m always baffled how he’s alive and healthy. Like writing a novel is not a short process even for a machine like him. That’s an industrial amount of coke to write a whole book and not recall. It's keeping busy with the writing that keeps him from relapsing. It's kinda like how addicts will really get into working out and get obsessive with it. They need to turn all that energy from their addiction into something else
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AceOfFlames posted:IIRC it wasn't like the final draft just appeared on his desk, he just took what I assume was a borderline unreadable first draft he has no memory writing and cleaned it up. I get why he hates the shining. In the novel jack is a decent man driven to madness by alcoholism and ghosts that want to kill his son, and he ultimately sacrifices himself to save his family.The movie has jack looking crazy from the word go, and he gets no redemption but even so, it's a really good movie -- And he made the decision to remake it while sober, though at least he learned not to direct by that point.
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