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Blooster posted:That's a really bad sign. I disagree, jury might just want to actually review all evidence again outside of a courtroom which isn't really a big deal.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Heres defense Nice of the judge to give closing arguments for the defence.
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B-Rock452 posted:I disagree, jury might just want to actually review all evidence again outside of a courtroom which isn't really a big deal. i hope so, twitter seems to think it might be people wanting to have a fuller day to go over it before signing off on it.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:39
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Oh good, now I have to worry another 18 hours or so that they're going to let a pedophile walk on some technicality.  Usually I'm the sort that, whenever a vote or trial shows up in the media, I read about it, note down my vote, and then see what the actual result is as a sort of "self-check" to make sure that I considered all of the moving parts and elements. In this case, though, I'm really struggling to see anything I could have missed. It'd be easy to take the "if I'm wrong, it's because he's a religious figure" potshot, but I'm genuinely curious as to what a "not guilty" verdict on this would be. Some minor procedural gently caress-up I guess? Edit: ⬇️ I guess that's a fair point.
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I can't fault someone for wanting to sleep on it and be super-duper sure before voting to put someone in prison.
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Yesterdays Latte posted:I'm genuinely curious as to what a "not guilty" verdict on this would be. Some minor procedural gently caress-up I guess? Juror(s) that didn't understand a bit of the computer stuff, but they saw that both sides had smart-sounding people talking about it, so the only possible conclusion is "who knows?", which means not guilty.
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Yeah, the longer they deliberate, the better the chances of "not guilty" Because of "confusing" computer stuff, and also the "maybe it was someone else doing it" that the defense postulated. Which would be a bad thing.
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BrigadierSensible posted:and also the "maybe it was someone else doing it" that the defense postulated for the jurors, the whole case hinges on this imo
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Yesterdays Latte posted:Some minor procedural gently caress-up I guess? The judge's comments certainly leave the impression that the prosecution's case is weak. That's dangerous.
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"But what if the guy who admitted to raping his sisters isn't actually a pedophile? We'd better debate this for longer!"
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Lolie posted:The judge's comments certainly leave the impression that the prosecution's case is weak. That's dangerous. It's Justin Gelfand not Justice Gelfand. That's the defence attorney.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:18
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Yesterdays Latte posted:Oh good, now I have to worry another 18 hours or so that they're going to let a pedophile walk on some technicality. I applaud your faith in humanity, but the idea that jurors are all intelligent, thoughtful people who consider all the evidence and understand all the procedures, is totally wrong. If he walks it will 100% be because the the jurors are equally religiously hosed in the head as the Duggars, or are the sort of idiot who think the Deep State FBI is plotting to falsely imprison proper God-fearing Americans like Josh and President Trump. And those biases pushed them to believe the defense's crappy expert and implausible Ghost Not Me story.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:25
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I believe jurors 100% can be convinced by the "it wasn't me" defense because its very stupid and thats what the average juror is
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It’s gonna be lol as gently caress when Josh walks, goes home and starts mollesting kids. Actually no, it’s not lol at all. It’s a loving tragedy.
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Powered Descent posted:Juror(s) that didn't understand a bit of the computer stuff, but they saw that both sides had smart-sounding people talking about it, so the only possible conclusion is "who knows?", which means not guilty. Maybe I missed it but I wish they had explained that Linux is not some elite expert computer expert highly technical thing, Chromebooks, which they are likely aware of being incredibly safe, easy to use machines are in fact Linux devices, that their TV very well may be running some version of Linux, do they really think there is a realistic chance that someone is going to hack into their Roku and download CSAM? It's about as likely, yet, still technically possible as the admitted child rapist just happened to have an elite hacker using their work computer to download CSAM.
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Barudak posted:I believe jurors 100% can be convinced by the "it wasn't me" defense because its very stupid and thats what the average juror is Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, allow me to quote the poet Shaggy
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Three Olives posted:Maybe I missed it but I wish they had explained that Linux is not some elite expert computer expert highly technical thing, Chromebooks, which they are likely aware of being incredibly safe, easy to use machines are in fact Linux devices, that their TV very well may be running some version of Linux, do they really think there is a realistic chance that someone is going to hack into their Roku and download CSAM? It's about as likely, yet, still technically possible as the admitted child rapist just happened to have an elite hacker using their work computer to download CSAM. those jurors will never understand any of that.
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funeral home DJ posted:It’s gonna be lol as gently caress when Josh walks, goes home and starts mollesting kids. i mean pretty much. he will molest kids or download way way more csam or way worse. thankfully if he does walk, dudes gonna be on feds radar now and he is never gonna see his loving kids again or be allowed near kids.
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canyoneer posted:Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, allow me to quote the poet Shaggy Police came in and they caught me red-handed Browsin' CSAM using TOR Picture this, I was bare-rear end naked, jackin' on the showroom floor
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Lmao, the Jury system is a loving joke
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Klyith posted:I applaud your faith in humanity, but the idea that jurors are all intelligent, thoughtful people who consider all the evidence and understand all the procedures, is totally wrong. During one of the many times I was called to report to jury duty, I never got placed on a trial. A lady who spent the first part of the morning yelling about how someone in the deli department at the Ralph’s market poisoned her potato salad was called, questioned, and placed on a jury. It made me realize the reality of a jury system.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Lmao, the Jury system is a loving joke One of my favorite aspects is in Florida you can request technical, civil suits be moved to a jury setting. The jury can then vote that they don't know what the gently caress and move it back to a trained judge, thus wasting literally everyones time
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yippeekiyaymf posted:During one of the many times I was called to report to jury duty, I never got placed on a trial. The intrinsic issue with the jury system has always been that the people selected to juries are basically by definition those too stupid to be able to get out of jury duty.
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canyoneer posted:Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, allow me to quote the poet Shaggy They caught me out in the jack shack. It wasn't me! They found me with some CP. It wasn't me! They saw me on the monitor. It's wasn't me!
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CPL593H posted:They caught me out in the jack shack. How could I forget that I had A really lovely password key? As the feds walked me out I asked "Is someone downloadin' CP?"
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A "not guilty" Josh Duggar will be put on the supreme court when Trump is reelected in 2024.
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Picture this I was masturbating Hope I locked the jack shack door
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Edmund Sparkler posted:Picture this How could I forget that I used my real IP?
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There's really no scientific formula to know how long deliberations could take. They might be done before lunch tomorrow. Or in a couple weeks.
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Aardvark! posted:tremendous lol if he gets away with it. just tremendous. if its a jury of his piers it makes sense if you've ever seen Arkansas honestly Yeah, I think you're right. Now a Jury of his wharves is a totally different ball game.
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Detective No. 27 posted:There's really no scientific formula to know how long deliberations could take. They might be done before lunch tomorrow. Or in a couple weeks. this. loving murder pig chauvin took like a day and half i think and surprisnly got found guilty. plus again CP possession again gets like 95+% conviction.
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Rad-daddio posted:those jurors will never understand any of that. Maybe not, but one of the witnesses testified that Josh knew how to set up a Linux partition when he was a teenager.
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wesleywillis posted:Yeah, I think you're right. I hate how much I love this pun
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