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DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
I think the rough order of the file sharing services I used, starting in fall of 2000 when I enrolled in college, was:
Napster
Scour
School's internal LAN indexer/searcher that some programmer group made (I can't remember the name but it was some weird mash up of "Phynder" and our school's initials (RPI)
iMesh
KaZaA (and eventually KaZaA-lite)
Limewire (then Frostwire)

And then basically kept using those last 2 until I was aware of torrenting which was...jeez, 2006? 2007? Never did use others like Morpheus, Grokster, or Bearshare much.

But as Powered Descent pointed out, I do sometimes miss those old days where you could see EVERYTHING a person was sharing and find stuff you might never have thought to search for on your own. Be it music, TV shows/movies, pr0n, etc...

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Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I always liked getting whatever software let you take other people's iTunes music in dorms by manipulating the library sharing feature. After a little bit, half of the libraries were "STOP STEALING MY MUSIC YOU ASSHOLES" until Apple kept patching iTunes and breaking the extra software often enough you didn't want to do it anymore (and you already got everything you wanted anyways).

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

evobatman posted:

No love for eDonkey and eMule :(

good selection on there, but it took ages. I would joke about it being the mail order catalog of internet piracy. they might have what you want, but it'll take 6-8 weeks to arrive.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

evobatman posted:

No love for eDonkey and eMule :(

I used both a lot! It had hashing magic (I still dunno how it works), so you could be sure you knew what you were downloading.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


They must have had a huge database of pirated files to pull the hashes from, it's the only way that would work.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



Did anyone even actually use BearShare

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

barbecue at the folks posted:

When was this, even? I just got a weird feeling that I spent a lot of time and bandwidth dl'ing stuff with WinMX somewhere around high school.

Maybe 2005 or so?

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Was I the only one using AudioGalaxy for music sharing?

no pubes yet sorry
Sep 11, 2003

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Was I the only one using AudioGalaxy for music sharing?

AudioGalaxy was probably the closest to prototypical Spotify that existed at the time, it was the pinnacle of public p2p audio file sharing.

Quaint Quail Quilt
Jun 19, 2006


Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay
I went from FTP to kazaa lite, hotline, mirc, tried a few others mentioned, soulseek had good/rare, almost curated stuff.

Torrents.

It's easier nowadays to stream all the music I want for my $10 plan and wait for 80% off games except for the few that deserve full price.

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!
Audiogalaxy and OiNK were like watching two libraries of Alexandria be burned.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Light Gun Man posted:

good selection on there, but it took ages. I would joke about it being the mail order catalog of internet piracy. they might have what you want, but it'll take 6-8 weeks to arrive.

Good description, I have a screenshot of successfully downloading a 700 MB dirty movie over 183 days! Thankfully there were other dirty movies on the internet while I waited.

Origin
Feb 15, 2006

Powered Descent posted:

One cool (but dangerous) thing about the Bearshare / Limewire era was that when you searched for a song/band/whatever, you'd see a list of the peers that had it available... and then you could click on a peer and see what else they were hosting.

There was the potential for some neat serendipity there, but it was also painfully easy for people to accidentally share out their entire hard drive, not just a music folder. So every now and then you'd look at a peer who was offering your-favorite-band.mp3 and find yourself able to see (and download, if you wanted) every last file in their documents and desktop folders. If there was a way to warn them what was happening, I never found it.

I had admin privileges on the DC hub we had on campus. One thing I used to do occasionally is run a search for "C:\Windows\System32" and see whoever came up sharing that folder. I would message that person to share correctly and issue a ban for a week.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
I set up a friend on the SADCHUB like 20 years ago, and just shared his "files" drive to get enough to be compliant. I was staying the night and woke up before him to check the status of a download, and he had been banned for having questionably titled porn shared on the drive. I quietly deleted DC++ and never said anything, but that was the day I stopped hanging out with him. I always wonder if I should have asked him about it or reported it or something, but I was a chickenshit 19-year old so I did nothing.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I'm sad chub.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm sad chub.

I *almost* typed SA DC HUB but SADCHUB is way funnier.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Nocheez posted:

I *almost* typed SA DC HUB but SADCHUB is way funnier.

What? Oh, sorry, I didn't read your post.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



SADCHUB ruled.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Yes it did, I got a ton of good stuff off of it.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


It's kinda mindblowing remembering this place used to openly host :filez:, really. Also, now I'm thinking about it that was like 16 or 17 years ago and good god we're all getting old

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

ReidRansom posted:

It's kinda mindblowing remembering this place used to openly host :filez:, really. Also, now I'm thinking about it that was like 16 or 17 years ago and good god we're all getting old

For the comparison, the first law in Finland, which made software or media piracy an actual crime was put into effect 01.01.2006. Before that making and distributing copies wasn't illegal, unless you were stupid enough to say that it was legit copy and were selling it, or you were using unlicensed software for commercial purposes.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

ReidRansom posted:

It's kinda mindblowing remembering this place used to openly host :filez:, really. Also, now I'm thinking about it that was like 16 or 17 years ago and good god we're all getting old

hey, some of the people on here started out old, and now they're dead.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Was I the only one using AudioGalaxy for music sharing?

I loved audiogalaxy. It was great because you could queue up what you wanted to download and if anyone was sharing that file ever in the history of the service the agent would wait for that person to come back online and grab it for you when they did.

I had a 128k ISDN line at the time (talk about obsolete and failed technology) so I actually had a web hosting account with telnet access that I would run the audiogalaxy agent on instead of my own machine. My ISDN line was pay-per-minute and was half price at night (Sweden in 2000-2002) so I would just add everything I wanted to download on the web and my agent would download it when it encountered it. Then at night I would ftp it all down from the web host.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
DC++ hash search was nice. If you found someone who organized their stuff properly, you could look at their share and queue up a whole season or series. Then you could do a file hash search for all of those files and download them from a bunch of users at once and saturate your connection. It was also good for a new episode coming out, the uploading user might only have a couple upload slots, but once the first few people finish the download and it gets indexed, they start uploading.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


For better or oworse, Youtube has got a new thing of recommending channels related to things I like that I have never seen. This is an instant Sub for me. An ex-MS developer discussing stuff he actually did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKNFCFABp0

There's a goon here in one of these threads who was in charge of UI around the same time, I wonder if they know each other?

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 16:38 on Dec 10, 2021

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Der Kyhe posted:

For the comparison, the first law in Finland, which made software or media piracy an actual crime was put into effect 01.01.2006. Before that making and distributing copies wasn't illegal, unless you were stupid enough to say that it was legit copy and were selling it, or you were using unlicensed software for commercial purposes.

Yeah it’s still not even a crime (non-commercial copying) in Canada, even our Conservatives passed a law that was just enough to get the US off our backs and that was it.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

ReidRansom posted:

It's kinda mindblowing remembering this place used to openly host :filez:, really. Also, now I'm thinking about it that was like 16 or 17 years ago and good god we're all getting old

it used to have a porn sharing forum where people would say "my penis thanks you" to eachother

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Shibawanko posted:

it used to have a porn sharing forum where people would say "my penis thanks you" to eachother

DPPH was a hell of a place.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

namlosh posted:

Ha! I remember scoring a cracked version of the original Fraunhofer(?) institute encoding application, or at least that’s what it said it was.

On a pentium 90, it was way more trouble than it was worth to rip and encode. But I did it a few times.

I can’t remember the name of the file sharing app I found it on. It would have been around ‘97 or so. And I feel like the default UI/search interface web page was black and red along with the app. I think it was cross platform even though I only used it on PC.

At that point, most of my mp3 finding was being done over random FTP sites, lol

That old DOS Fraunhofer l3enc was extremely good. I still have some 128Kbps albums I encoded with it way back in like 1998 or whatever that I haven't bothered to re-encode in a higher bitrate. No need. It took a while for LAME to become the gold standard. Xing was SO bad at high frequencies, leading to extremely sloshy poo poo cymbals.

I think on my P166 MMX that it was about realtime, or 1.5-2x speed. Now encoding an entire album takes seconds lol

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Humphreys posted:

There's a goon here in one of these threads who was in charge of UI around the same time, I wonder if they know each other?
I know there was a goon who was on the Windows Phone team. Poor lad.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

IMHO the Metro UI was one of the very few non-terrible parts of the Nokia Windows Phones, especially WP 7.5 and 8.

I actually think that for a brief time, it was the best phone UI by the looks, simplicity, and usability.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Der Kyhe posted:

IMHO the Metro UI was one of the very few non-terrible parts of the Nokia Windows Phones, especially WP 7.5 and 8.

I actually think that for a brief time, it was the best phone UI by the looks, simplicity, and usability.

Better than Anroid nowadays for sure. Probably better than Itunes but my employer didn't get me an Itunes and it's not like anyone over the age of 12 would even pay for one themselves.

e: And people 12 or under usually don't have the kind of money to buy an Itunes.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Are you trying to say iphone?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

You know, I might be.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I've never owned an iPhone, but iOS seems ... ok? The biggest annoyances for me would be their weird fear of other rendering and javascript engines, since I use Firefox mobile on android. For the day to day use of Internet, tickets, mail, photo and forums, though? Most likely fine.

Besides, Google seem to be trying to lock android down further. As of the most recent increase in minimum API level, it's now much harder to use one app to provide storage for another: if you try to set a file from syncthing as your password database, you now have to manually browse for it every time you launch the password manager, for "security" reasons. Google drive just works, though. Of course.

It's a shame windows phone isn't around - having a third alternative around would have been good for the market. Oh well, it was MS in their worst "fear of commitment" period. (How many incompatible versions of Windows mobile were there in a ten-year period?)

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 17:21 on Dec 13, 2021

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Well, for the third option there still is the Sailfish OS, the descendant of Maemo/Meego which was the Nokia+Intel joint venture OS still under development when the Microsoft bought their mobile phone business.

Unfortunately they currently only exists as an alt OS for Sony Xperia, OnePlus and Xiaomi RedMi smartphones on selected third world markets and in India.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Sometimes I just want PalmOS back. It was stupid simple.

Or the Windows for Pocket PCs, but that was not really "good"

iOS is actually really good, I switched from iOS after a big dry spell in jailbreaks but, other than that it's a solid OS.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I have an iPad and it seems ok. I had trouble with it at first because it's almost all gesture based and it was my first iOS device and I didn't know any of the gestures to do things. Now that I've learned them, it's pretty great to use. I don't think there's really anything that makes android or iOS better than the other, I mostly just stick to Android because that's where all apps are.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


My problem with iOS is there are a thousand little things that irritate the poo poo out of me. The core of it is obviously just fine and functional, but lots of UI things I just can't work with. I'm sure if I still drank the Apple koolaid I would just roll with it, but I grew out of that about a decade ago after buying my last Mac.

I don't like a lot about vanilla Android UI anymore, either, but I just use Nova to make it more like Android versions I liked better, so I stay happy overall.

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


drat, I loved my Palm. I got my first one when it was still called a Pilot. Won it in a Web contest. Bought all the others.

There was a rumor that Xerox PARC had to make a rule about no writing on whiteboards in Graffiti because some of the scientists couldn't read it.

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