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The Voice of Labor posted:what's the book on all the horrible cia backed conspiracies that's good and popular right now? friend, you're going to have to be more specific The Devil's Chessboard? Killing Hope? The Politics of Heroin?
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chaos and jakarta method are the 2 biggest recent ones i think
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Dec 9, 2021 20:22
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I read the jarakarta method, what's this chaos?
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:chaos and jakarta method are the 2 biggest recent ones i think this seems to be thread consensus on where to start
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The Voice of Labor posted:I read the jarakarta method, what's this chaos? https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477540
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The Voice of Labor posted:I read the jarakarta method, what's this chaos? https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-Manson-History-Sixties/dp/0316477540 e: didn't realize per the wiki page that errol morris was going to adapt it for (i assume) a documentary. loved wormwood and feel like his style would have worked well with this. i guess amazon bought the rights tho? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHAOS:_Charles_Manson,_the_CIA,_and_the_Secret_History_of_the_Sixties
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Devil's Chessboard is a good entry point because it shows the evolution of the CIA out of the OSS through the lens of Dulles's actions in Europe during WW2. Specifically: - having advanced knowledge of the concentration camps and choosing to ignore it and - brokering deals with Nazi leadership to get them safely out of the country before they could be killed/captured and bring them back in to form the new government after the official defeat of the Nazi party. When that's your jumping off point, you'd think there'd be nowhere to go but up!
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Dec 9, 2021 20:33
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"The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives" has some pretty strong endorsements 
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The Voice of Labor posted:what's the book on all the horrible cia backed conspiracies that's good and popular right now? Washington Bullets?
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol there's drawings of the pics too lmao now i want a courtroom drawing of ghislane drawing a picture of this drawing
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Dec 9, 2021 20:53
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behold a pale horse is currently an Amazon best seller.
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What was Maxwell's personal motivation for the sex trafficking anyway? She could have had sex, money, power, wealth, status and influence without it, so what was she getting out of it? I assumed it was because she had already been abused by her father and it was the replication of abuse.
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Corsec posted:What was Maxwell's personal motivation for the sex trafficking anyway? She could have had sex, money, power, wealth, status and influence without it, so what was she getting out of it? What's any rich person's motive for sex trafficking and child porn? Rich people are psychos and think they can do whatever they want.
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absolutely flummoxed that Ghislaine Maxwells favorite coffee was Maxwell House right now
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Corsec posted:What was Maxwell's personal motivation for the sex trafficking anyway? She could have had sex, money, power, wealth, status and influence without it, so what was she getting out of it? taking over the family business but really she didn't have access to "sex, money, power, wealth, status and influence without it" oh sure she was rich, but not as rich as the crowd she hung out with. there was no way she'd be hanging with the royals if she was just yet another moderately wealthy british lady.
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just reviewing a copy of the household manual to see if i can suggest any tips to the wife
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It's power. Sex crimes are always about power.
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The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids 
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chairface posted:The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids the wealthy and elite probably got tired of that a few hundred years ago
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chairface posted:The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids well look at it this way...how have we learned the most about Epstein? through his victims.
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chairface posted:The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids there is a powerful innate reflex against cannibalism, such that many people who are forced into the situation cannot physically do it. of course there are innate as well as social taboos against pedophilia but I'm going to guess they're just not nearly as iron-clad.
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Corsec posted:What was Maxwell's personal motivation for the sex trafficking anyway? She could have had sex, money, power, wealth, status and influence without it, so what was she getting out of it? Working for Mossad, presumably.
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Laterite posted:lmao When will the NFT go on sale ?
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nasty feet touching
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Another Bill posted:It's power. Sex crimes are always about power. that saying that everything is about sex except sex, sex is about power
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chairface posted:The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids I made this same point with dog fuckers instead of cannibals. systematic pedophilia requires maintaining the necessary complex logistics and attendant political operations to maintain secrecy, skills and connections that form a perfect Venn circle with those required of a successful capitalist. then Hebbian learning takes off and they form mutually supportive networks, people who pedo together do business together, etc. dog fuckers and cannibals do not need to do this, and so don't form similar power networks. although trabisnikofs point is also very good. dogs and murder victims leak less information.
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Centrist Committee posted:that saying that everything is about sex except sex, sex is about power for predators.
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cannibalism risks prion disease. spongiform brain
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chairface posted:The thing I wonder about, like I get the argument that it's about transgression and a vulgar display of power, so pedophilia because "ha ha I'm so powerful can get away with it!" but it seems weird to me it's all pedos and no cannibals. Just saying if I had unlimited power and wanted to really feel like I answered to no law, I'd eat people instead of screwing kids I got my 7 figgies where's my long pig?
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mawarannahr posted:spongiform brain pro username right there
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a friend of mine put it this wayquote:Since acting in your own interests or speaking according to your own judgment is not evidence of someone’s power over you, those attaining power have to specifically demonstrate their willingness to compel others to harm themselves and to lie. One occupies power for oneself through sadism, and responds to it with masochism. so, more than murder, cannibalism, or any particular crime you can do, the most effective way to get people to recognize your class position is to have them see you "compelling others to harm themselves and to lie," such as getting them to participate in ongoing abuses, and/or in the denial of those abuses. not that he's an expert or anything, but the theory has stuck with me.
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i still have no idea how her name is supposed to be pronounced and I'm not about to learn now.
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:i still have no idea how her name is supposed to be pronounced and I'm not about to learn now. MACKS-well it's a little tricky but if you practice you'll get it
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mdemone posted:MACKS-well That's the antisemitic way to pronounce it hth
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The ruling class is only interested in control of other people, it's required by their class position. Ideologies are materially formed. Contained in every portion of their ideology is maintenance of the class system and their position within it. Their lustful desires would also be informed in that same way. It's no satisfaction for them to wield power over a form, as any idiot can do, but rather to wield power (including libidinal) over a form of their own creation - especially if, by their own creation too, they can do so with impunity! Child sex trafficking and child sexual exploitation, like all ills, is propped up not by just shadowy people in shadowy corridors but by the entirety of the culture of their making: topless HBO teens, sex work as empowerment, youth as beauty, of age pornstars that look and act like children (even encouraging families to abuse, incestual rape), etc etc. It doesn't happen in a vacuum and that's the point.
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Jetto Jagga posted:That's the antisemitic way to pronounce it hth i pronounce it moch-shweil
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The elites don't do cannibalism any more because of prions. Also cannibalism wouldn't reify their power the way pedophilia does. Cannibalism is an action of last resort, of extremity, of desperation.
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Marrying underage girls is so popular in the south (and probably not just the south) that it can't be properly legislated.
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Doc Hawkins posted:a friend of mine put it this way Relevant Tangent posted:The elites don't do cannibalism any more because of prions. Also cannibalism wouldn't reify their power the way pedophilia does. Cannibalism is an action of last resort, of extremity, of desperation. so you’re saying rich people are making other people eat people
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