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freebooter posted:Surely what South Africa has is a high rate of people with HIV/AIDS, which is the exact opposite? Not mutually exclusive.
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I think what StratGoatCom is referring to are APOBEC3 enzymes, which have antiviral action and one of the more effective genetic variants of them is common in Africa. And also East Asia, it was invoked as a possible part of the explanation why Japan smashed its Delta wave so thoroughly. There's a lot of research done on APOBEC3 enzymes and HIV because they have pretty strong action against it.
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Dec 10, 2021 05:15
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Bedford did some maths on what the rate of growth looks like in the UK versus SA. https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1469157772012908549
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Dec 10, 2021 06:55
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Judakel posted:Denmark ICUs getting slammed. They should've been in lockdown a while ago. Uh, not really? Fresh from coronasmitte.dk: Hospitalised - at the moment Today Change in 24 hours Hospitalised 460 (-1) Of which in intensive care units 67 (+1) Of which in intensive care units and on ventilators 37 (-1) This is nowhere near as bad as it has been, not even close. The government seems to be prudently responding to the situation. Do you have different stats from the official ones?
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Dec 10, 2021 07:20
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freebooter posted:
I've noticed that most (all?) of the really depressed posting is from Americans, while a lot of the more measured responses are from non-US people. I know my mental outlook would be a lot worse if I wasn't in a place with 90%+ of adults vaccinated. I'm sorry guys, I can't imagine how infuriating it must be
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Dec 10, 2021 08:05
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https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1468940214215270415 This is reassuring.
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Dec 10, 2021 08:15
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Platystemon posted:They have the same filtration abilities, but the lack a fluid-resistant outer layer. Because of that, they’re not FDA-approved class II medical devices, suitable for use in operating room. That’s what separates them from medical N95s. Yeah it's this Fluid resistant n95 are almost impossible to buy as a lay person not buying them in bulk (cases of 100+) CDC should drop that phrase 3M Aura are designed almost exclusively for everyday Joe, and holy poo poo they're super duper comfortable and cool and not sweaty at all And yeah you can buy them at home depot for like $2 each and they should give you a week worth of shopping per respirator, maybe more if you only go grocery shopping, they are basically the perfect mask Oh did I mention they fold flat? Hot drat
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Dec 10, 2021 09:00
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freebooter posted:Surely what South Africa has is a high rate of people with HIV/AIDS, which is the exact opposite? I think the real problem that no-one is discussing here is that it's not so much an impending doom for the Western world of people who are on their third booster or boosting their 5 years old, but for the undeveloped world who haven't had their 1st shot a much more transmissable virus is going to decimate them like Mexico/Brazil.
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Dec 10, 2021 09:36
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Weasling Weasel posted:I think the real problem that no-one is discussing here is that it's not so much an impending doom for the Western world of people who are on their third booster or boosting their 5 years old, but for the undeveloped world who haven't had their 1st shot a much more transmissable virus is going to decimate them like Mexico/Brazil. Yup. And India. Wealthier nations at least have access to therapeutics, good masks, and good vaccines. It sounds like COVAX, China etc are starting to get some vaccine doses to developing nations but they're still going to bear the overwhelming brunt of Omicron. I'll also mention my local area (Native American reservation) since I'm familiar with it. Our vaccination rate is under 40% despite ready availability of vaccine. It's not as simple as "order respirators off Amazon." We're entering winter and many families here don't have $20 to spare to buy good masks. The typical household here contains 2-4 nuclear families under one roof. It's standard practice to have everyone huddle in one room during cold times to conserve heat (and propane/electricty $$). People don't have the few dollars to spare for good masks. Even if they did, another obstacle is most people here don't get package/mail delivery to their home address. I don't actually know why that's the case, but most people on the reservation have PO boxes. They literally can't order masks from Amazon or wherever because all they have is a PO box. How do you encourage vaccination? How do you get higher-quality masks distributed? That's just the start. We're actually just entering our big Delta wave, cases are spiking. We're very isolated so waves tend to take a long time to hit here. I dunno that I'm a fan of the "only trust your respirator" line because while ultimately true, it's often selfish in the way it's discussed on these forums. Like the poster the other night calling severely mentally ill people fools that are beyond hope. No actually, it can't just be about our own personal safety, we need to find productive ways to reach out to communities that aren't as well-protected as most people (most Americans in particular) on this forum are.
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Fritz the Horse posted:Yup. And India. Wealthier nations at least have access to therapeutics, good masks, and good vaccines. It sounds like COVAX, China etc are starting to get some vaccine doses to developing nations but they're still going to bear the overwhelming brunt of Omicron. You might consider talking with leadership about a package acceptance facility, they can be run very cheaply, just a waterproof shed, especially if you're in an area with high unemployment. I live in a giant building and the Amazon truck arrives every day at 11am and drops off a thousand or more packages, then our package guy accepts then and sorts them. Spread across 1500 people during regular business hours it's not a significant chunk of money, especially if it gives the community access to higher quality goods and health care goods Edit: Amazon even has a shared garage door clicker now for the Amazon guy to use, wouldn't even need to be manned. Literally just a garage with 120v
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Dec 10, 2021 10:32
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Hadlock posted:You might consider talking with leadership about a package acceptance facility, they can be run very cheaply, just a waterproof shed, especially if you're in an area with high unemployment. I live in a giant building and the Amazon truck arrives every day at 11am and drops off a thousand or more packages, then our package guy accepts then and sorts them. Spread across 1500 people during regular business hours it's not a significant chunk of money, especially if it gives the community access to higher quality goods and health care goods yeah unemployment is north of 80% I know a couple of tribal council members I'll look into it and maybe mention it to them, thanks. I actually have zero idea what the reason for it is. Maybe because most of the housing is government BIA housing and for some reason delivery isn't allowed to home address? It's also very remote and rural. I'll have to ask. All I know is most people here don't have a street address, it's all PO box. a quick google brings this up as one example: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2019/10/04/for-some-native-americans-no-home-address-might-mean-no-voting Most people here literally don't have a home address to ship to, and it's also a problem for voter registration and other stuff.
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Dec 10, 2021 10:43
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Fritz the Horse posted:yeah unemployment is north of 80% Wild. I've been to the edge of a couple of reservations over the years but most of what I've seen via the limited national media coverage I... Might.... Actually be able to leverage some resources on my end regarding this plus system or a delivery depot, at the bare minimum under the guise of reliably shipping you guys masks, I'll shoot you a pm
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Dec 10, 2021 10:58
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Fritz the Horse posted:yeah unemployment is north of 80% How many people are there? I'm surprised Amazon hasn't figured something out, they're rushing into markets a lot farther from a formal grid than anywhere in the lower 48, but I guess it's a small, poor population compared to rural Senegal or wherever. I wonder if your leadership could talk to them directly.
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Dec 10, 2021 12:02
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I mean, I imagine the issue in an extremely poor community is less that they don't have a shed to get deliveries to and more they aren't in a situation or set up to do enough online shopping to ever have warranted building a dedicated package delivery shed.
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Dec 10, 2021 12:47
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Fritz the Horse posted:(..)I dunno that I'm a fan of the "only trust your respirator" line because while ultimately true, it's often selfish in the way it's discussed on these forums. Like the poster the other night calling severely mentally ill people fools that are beyond hope. No actually, it can't just be about our own personal safety, we need to find productive ways to reach out to communities that aren't as well-protected as most people (most Americans in particular) on this forum are. This is an odd take, considering "only trust your respirator" merely means you can't trust anything you - yourself - can't control. It comes from entirely too many goons experiencing exposure to cases, coming from people that swore up and down they were vaccinated/acting safely, when neither turned out to be true. Like the mother faking a vaccination card, events where "everyone is vaccinated! (except your uncle and his family which I didn't tell you about)", friends (safely) going maskless barhopping etc. The poster talking about severely mentally ill people was an rear end in a top hat, but that has nothing to do with only trusting your respirator, which explicitly does not imply trust in anyone else's PPE. It has similarly little to do with your last line; why is wearing proper PPE and arguing others should do the same only about "our own personal safety"?
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Dec 10, 2021 13:11
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Rust Martialis posted:Uh, not really? Fresh from coronasmitte.dk: I suspect he is talking about there only being 10 available ICU beds available for the entire country right now. https://www-dr-dk.translate.goog/ny...x_tr_hl=da#main posted:On Monday, there were only ten vacant intensive care units in the country's hospitals Pingui fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Slow News Day posted:https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1468940214215270415 Not really — it wasn't tested with 'real' Omicron, but with a pseudovirus in a small group of sera with wildly different results. Every study with live virus has shown much worse results.
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Dec 10, 2021 13:37
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Petey posted:Not really — it wasn't tested with 'real' Omicron, but with a pseudovirus in a small group of sera with wildly different results. Every study with live virus has shown much worse results. Every study? drat.
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Dec 10, 2021 13:42
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Petey posted:Not really — it wasn't tested with 'real' Omicron, but with a pseudovirus in a small group of sera with wildly different results. Every study with live virus has shown much worse results. That sounds weird. Are you saying that their pseudovirus behaves radically different than the real strain and the laboratory at Biontech didn't catch that, making that study worthless? I sorta doubt that. If, like the study calims 80% of the docking stations of the spike protein of Omikron are still the same, it sounds reasonable that the corresponding T-cells would have an effect in high doses. As far as I'm aware, this is the first study on third dose transmissions.
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any news on moderna’s efficacy against omicron?
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abelwingnut posted:any news on moderna’s efficacy against omicron?
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Dec 10, 2021 14:26
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Every study? drat. cant cook creole bream posted:That sounds weird. Are you saying that their pseudovirus behaves radically different than the real strain and the laboratory at Biontech didn't catch that, making that study worthless? I sorta doubt that. https://twitter.com/JanineKimpel/status/1468700628922904591 https://twitter.com/CiesekSandra/status/1468465347519041539 and Sigal lab paper: https://secureservercdn.net/50.62.198.70/1mx.c5c.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/MEDRXIV-2021-267417v1-Sigal.7z all live-virus assays, all show the same thing directionally (two shot doses of any vaccine doesn't neutralize Omicron; booster neutralizes ~25% as against 95% against delta; vaccination + infection (in either direction) does seem to mostly neutralize, though not as effective as vaccination against prior variants)
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Dec 10, 2021 14:39
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I had JnJ and I'm getting my moderna booster today. Where does this leave me in terms of protection? Allegedly three shots is good, but what about two?
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Dec 10, 2021 16:33
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My roommate told me that the N95s I'd ordered were way too expensive at nearly $4 a mask. I've cancelled the order and replaced it with these N95s, which he found after an hour of searching and comparing options. These appear to be up to standard and much cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HY48BK6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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Dec 10, 2021 16:41
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Morrow posted:I had JnJ and I'm getting my moderna booster today. Where does this leave me in terms of protection? Allegedly three shots is good, but what about two? Found this: https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson...cine-in-the-u-s. They talk a bit about booster efficacy w/ J&J on there. That's from September though
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Victar posted:My roommate told me that the N95s I'd ordered were way too expensive at nearly $4 a mask. I've cancelled the order and replaced it with these N95s, which he found after an hour of searching and comparing options. These appear to be up to standard and much cheaper. Never buy on Amazon. https://www.industrialsafetyproducts.com/3m-9210-aura-n95-particulate-respirator-niosh-approved/ Arguably superior mask, non-scammy vendor, and cheaper unit price. The 1870 is a medical mask that is rated for fluid exposure. Don't bother with that unless you're in a healthcare environment. Please see the CSPAM COVID thread OPs for more masking details. Insanite fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Dec 10, 2021 16:53
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Victar posted:My roommate told me that the N95s I'd ordered were way too expensive at nearly $4 a mask. I've cancelled the order and replaced it with these N95s, which he found after an hour of searching and comparing options. These appear to be up to standard and much cheaper. There's nothing wrong with your choice of mask there (and your roommate is correct, $4 is excessive) but Amazon has issues with counterfeit products across the board and there's no guarantee even products with official first party listings will be legitimate because of the way they sort and store products. Odds are you get a legitimate product, but I wouldn't know how to confirm that and I'm wary about risking my health just to save some effort/money, personally I recommend this site for ordering N95s: https://www.industrialsafetyproducts.com/3m-9210-aura-n95-particulate-respirator-niosh-approved/ You can also just go to your local Home Depot and find them. efb If time is a factor, beware that my order took about 12 days to arrive, they're understandably swamped with orders right now. Solanumai fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Petey posted:
None of those bars are "does not neutralize" all of the red bars are there, just shorter than the other bars. The antibodies literally do neutralize it. Just some percent less on a graph. It's not even like you can just compare like that, where % neutralized = % immune. Measles is the gold standard example of "get it once and you are immune forever" and antibodies for that drop like 95% in the first year.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:22
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:None of those bars are "does not neutralize" all of the red bars are there, just shorter than the other bars. The antibodies literally do neutralize it. Just some percent less on a graph. Covid is not the gold standard of “get it once and you are amazing immune forever” I do not understand your point.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:34
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Morrow posted:I had JnJ and I'm getting my moderna booster today. Where does this leave me in terms of protection? Allegedly three shots is good, but what about two? You may as well finish that moderna sequence, right? That decision's all upside
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Dec 10, 2021 17:38
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no lube so what posted:Covid is not the gold standard of “get it once and you are amazing immune forever” yeah, it's almost like you can't look at a graph of antibody neutralization and be able to directly say much about real world immunity.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:44
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Dec 10, 2021 17:47
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:yeah, it's almost like you can't look at a graph of antibody neutralization and be able to directly say much about real world immunity. Man o man, good luck to you. Lmbo, lol (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Got a haircut yesterday afternoon. I was happy to hear my hairdresser say that she had just vaccinated her kids. However, they and she contracted covid last year. She noted that they got over it "just fine" but she couldn't smell for awhile. I imparted my concern about getting covid at all is the uncertainty of long covid effects. I gave her the example of how for some people, when their smell returns things smell like garbage. She stopped as if in shock and asked me if I was serious. I confirmed that while I hadn't experienced it first hand,, it was a common anecdote that I'd heard. She then proceeded to reveal that to this day some things smell like cow poo poo to her and nobody has believed her. She was immensely gratified to hear my relayed story to confirm that she wasn't crazy.
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Yeah, I have a couple pals that got COVID roughly this time last year and one of them still can't eat any kind of lettuce because it all tastes like copper/something metallic. poo poo is horrifying to me.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:10
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no lube so what posted:Covid is not the gold standard of “get it once and you are amazing immune forever” The point is that antibody numbers don't 1:1 correlate to immunity levels. Without a source with more details, this is kinda useless.
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no lube so what posted:Man o man, good luck to you. Lmbo, lol We are now 17 days past south africa's daily case count going up by 30x, and at the same time have leisurely drifted down from 30 deaths a day to 20 deaths a day. Like we are 2 and a half+ weeks into this and south africa is reporting that 6% of their ICU beds are full. You gotta let go of one or the other of the doomer fantasys. Either omicron itself is less dangerous OR this is people getting reinfections and breakthrough infections but doing much better because they have effective antibodies. You can't have both.
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Main Paineframe posted:The point is that antibody numbers don't 1:1 correlate to immunity levels. https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1469351833416122369 2x AZ + Pf booster is what the vulnerable groups got in the uk given they were prioritised
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:well UKHSA data is out, here's a summary thread: It feels like the much bigger news story is AZ apparently making you up to 100% MORE likely to get covid between week 15 and 20.
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