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McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Wang Commander posted:

Capitol rioters never should've made it to trial lol

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

"Extrajudicial killings are okay" is not a welcome take.

Edit: Having discussed this with Wang Commander in PMs, I've withdrawn the longer probe.

McNally fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 9, 2021

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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Donnie got dumpstered at the appellate record in the National Archives case, 3-0.

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1469057109778173954

14 days to appeal to the supreme court (likely), but that side of the delaydelaydelay tactic isn't working out so well.

My personal thought is that it doesn't much matter, as even if clear, convincing evidence comes out that Donnie straight ordered the insurrectionists to go in (and it was close enough), no minds will really be changed.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Dec 9, 2021

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

stealie72 posted:

Look around at boring/lame elected positions in your area and run, especially if you're in a small town, and especially if it's the kind of place where republicans run unopposed. At least make them fight for it, and if you think you're not qualified for the job, so what, neither is the right-wing shithead running. He's just using it to spread bullshit and look toward moving up in the next election.

Sorry friend, Until or unless Democrats get voting rights reform passed, Biden signs it, and the supreme court doesn't toss it Georgia is a lost cause at this point unless you wanna run for a mayor/position in basically a 99% democrat area such as City of Atlanta.

Republicans have basically made it law in this state that the only fair elections in this state are overseen exclusively by republicans and the only rules that are fair are what ever they say it is, and if a Democrat wins, well obviously there's malfeasance so we have to run it back.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Defenestrategy posted:

Sorry friend, Until or unless Democrats get voting rights reform passed, Biden signs it, and the supreme court doesn't toss it Georgia is a lost cause at this point unless you wanna run for a mayor/position in basically a 99% democrat area such as City of Atlanta.

Republicans have basically made it law in this state that the only fair elections in this state are overseen exclusively by republicans and the only rules that are fair are what ever they say it is, and if a Democrat wins, well obviously there's malfeasance so we have to run it back.
Yeah, YYMV locally. I live in small-town Ohio with a bunch of nonpartisan local and county races (county commissioner, town commissioner, zoning board, school board, ____ board). I may end up running for something next year just to block a GOP dickhead, but I'm a middle aged white male and can say the right things and don't have to have a D next to my name on the ballot. Probably not as useful for a Black woman.

BTW, it's bad enough here that the local Democratic party is mass texting its donor rolls with "Thinking of running for office? Join our webinar to learn how to do it. We can't let Republicans run unopposed"

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

stealie72 posted:

BTW, it's bad enough here that the local Democratic party is mass texting its donor rolls with "Thinking of running for office? Join our webinar to learn how to do it. We can't let Republicans run unopposed"

This is nice and all but it's pretty much too little too late. They should have been harping on it for 30-40 years now. It's legit funny how much they've hosed the dog on the matter

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Milo and POTUS posted:

This is nice and all but it's pretty much too little too late. They should have been harping on it for 30-40 years now. It's legit funny how much they've hosed the dog on the matter
Yuuuup. We are collosally hosed.

Edit: BTW, my local Dem party is run by a passive aggressive septuigenarian that doesn't like anyone under 60 and finds racial integration to be progressive. So thats helpful too.

stealie72 fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Dec 9, 2021

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

bird food bathtub posted:

This, gerrymandering, putting loyalists in key positions. Jan 6th was a practice run. They saw what stopped them and now they're fixing that. There won't be another election in this country again, and the supreme court will say it's legal.

There are still elections in Russia. Ours will become about that valid but they will still happen because it will "prove" that we're still a democracy.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/1469067863369535489

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

pmchem posted:

can't wait until he runs against trump in 2028 and this quote gets dragged up

I just can't wait for the leopards eating faces moment when DeSantis reaps what he sowed supporting :smugdon: and also gets to throw it back in his face.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

stealie72 posted:

Yuuuup. We are collosally hosed.

Edit: BTW, my local Dem party is run by a passive aggressive septuigenarian that doesn't like anyone under 60 and finds racial integration to be progressive. So thats helpful too.

Try anyway. I went to my county party convention on more or less a whim a couple years ago having never interacted with it before in any way and was immediately placed on the state party's executive committee because I was literally the only person there who can drive at night.

e: county conventions should be coming in late winter early spring and the only qualification for voting on party matters is that you cast a D ballot in the primaries.

Get a bunch of your friends to flood the meeting and go become the county chair, gently caress that guy

double E: 90% chance everyone else that goes to the meetings hates him too but he's still hanging on because nobody else wants the job. Just take it, all you have to do is show up.

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Dec 10, 2021

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Basically if you unilaterally decide not to gerrymander, your opponent can just double down on gerrymandering. Who could have foreseen?

Some will say ends do not justify means.

https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1469026659584159750?s=21

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
All this news makes me way too entirely nihilistic.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



lmao the Maryland legislature voted to override the veto on theirs, though it's going to the courts for sure.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1469100874995798022

I guess the alternative is second-term Hair Fuhrer going "I don't see what the problem is here, Ukraine. Russia's a GREAT country. Maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror" and then trying to pin it on China somehow.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
maybe no one is really going to give a poo poo about Ukraine one way or the other because our own country is collapsing

Dick Ripple
May 19, 2021

A little over 3000 where killed or wounded in the Pearl Harbor attack. How many casualties has the US military had since then because of the MIC, inept politicians, and politically motivivated news orginizations egging everyone else on? I think her point is fair.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Dick Ripple posted:

A little over 3000 where killed or wounded in the Pearl Harbor attack. How many casualties has the US military had since then because of the MIC, inept politicians, and politically motivivated news orginizations egging everyone else on? I think her point is fair.

Uhh what the gently caress, are you ignoring the deaths that came from US entry into WW2? Perl Harber wasn't a singular event you know.

Dick Ripple
May 19, 2021
I am aware that the Pearl Harbor attack did not occur in a vacuum, however her point was that it directly catapulted the US into the war and thus leading to over 400,000 further American dead because of it. And if we do not do something about the current status quo that is American Politics and how corrupted they are by the MIC and certain Media outlets, it could catapult the US into something worse.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I've been dreading the day we realize that the continued existence of Japan is one giant loose end

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Tiny Timbs posted:

I've been dreading the day we realize that the continued existence of Japan is one giant loose end

I feel like North Korea will get tied up first before we get around to that one.

Current boogeyman of the times is China, same as it was on 9/10/01. Gotta have a reason to pass big money to your future employers in the MIC and send a little back to some districts here and there.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Dick Ripple posted:

I am aware that the Pearl Harbor attack did not occur in a vacuum, however her point was that it directly catapulted the US into the war and thus leading to over 400,000 further American dead because of it. And if we do not do something about the current status quo that is American Politics and how corrupted they are by the MIC and certain Media outlets, it could catapult the US into something worse.

Yeah, except her point is stupid because she is a major player in everything she says is a threat.
She is the threat she is "afraid" of.
She is directly responsible for the very thing she is lambasting.

She didn't make a point, she made a hype reel for idiots.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

facialimpediment posted:

Boosters are now 16+

https://twitter.com/cheyennehaslett/status/1469031146293907456?t=iXDqvzz-t34NvGZrXv87mQ&s=19

Which is more than you could say about Josh Duggar

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1468981888178130945?t=mS-yKDtwTEoExMRlIW7WtQ&s=19

Typical sentence appears to be around 10 years, with a possible 5-year minimum sentence, so bye!

He assaulted 4 of his sisters and is only getting 10 years??

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Eej posted:

He assaulted 4 of his sisters and is only getting 10 years??
He's a white conservative. Surprised he got 10.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Eej posted:

He assaulted 4 of his sisters and is only getting 10 years??

the sister raping wasn't at issue in this trial he already got away with that long ago

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Eej posted:

He assaulted 4 of his sisters and is only getting 10 years??

The statute of limitation on the molestation expired; he got convicted on child porn charges.

Dude had some heinous poo poo on his work computer.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1469314103353171977?t=-kEHUCdoPwbORY4hJ4Di1Q&s=19

I fully understand why these people never get consequences, much less arrested for this harassment. But I'll never understand why these people never get consequences, much less arrested for this harassment, WHEN THEY'RE INSIDE A loving POLICE STATION DOING THE HARASSMENT.

... nevermind I guess I understand that part too :v:

Also, Whole Women's Health is out, result seems kinda messy as it's not a full-blown throw-out of SB8:

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1469322153069887489?t=a2Ybp92U8nX7P32C3nnrJQ&s=19

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
About as good as you're ever going to get from a Gorsuch opinion, but clearly dumb legal weasel word bullshit to avoid (edit: outright) tossing a dumbfuck abortion bounty program:

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1469323202237280268?t=nEapBfVZbFOGJrsa3IdjTg&s=19

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1469324139915841539?t=0orBZErKJYZRptEtMBWrBw&s=19

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1469323885887766538?t=KNM9f6MFqprPyTUtONPgGg&s=19

Edit: so the general analysis is that SB8 is now hosed because there are now state officials that the abortion clinics can sue, instead of playing whack-a-mole against private lawsuits. That theoretically makes the law tossable by a district court federal judge, which SB8 was trying to avoid.

Edit2: but it could survive because a lot of the legal routes were shut off by this decision! It's pretty bullshit.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 10, 2021

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Legitimacy chum.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Biden pledged to codify Roe v Wade so this is all just noise, he'll take care of that any day now

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Definitely a promise which will pass Congress and survive court challenges.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-january-election-results-trump-1658076%3famp=1

I'm glad Trump is gone, now we can work with the GOP in good faith as they're a respectable party

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

maffew buildings posted:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-january-election-results-trump-1658076%3famp=1

I'm glad Trump is gone, now we can work with the GOP in good faith as they're a respectable party

I'm not adding this to be a dick to you, just as a general FYI to everyone, but I wouldn't use Newsweek for anything anymore. I only learned recently from my wife, that it was purchased by some conservative group to basically Zombie Content Producer, and just use the Newsweek title and legacy as cover.

https://newrepublic.com/article/158968/newsweek-rise-zombie-magazine

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...3809.html%3famp

As far as I know this source is not Unfair and Unbalanced

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

It should've been obvious when their big comeback scoop for the relaunch was... this

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Cool, like I said it was more of a general warning, because honestly I think most Americans would still give Newsweek the same level of trust as say Time or may US News and World Report (which was always center-right anyway) these days when it basically a mix of Forbes, Business Insider, HuffPost slave writers, and generic content spam, to hide what it is now.

Also :wtc:



Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 10, 2021

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

The general analysis of basically everything is that every wacky-rear end attempt to use the legal system to make Donnie into a dictator made it into the White House before January 6th. It's unclear how much of that was actually *made* in the White House - like all that Meadows poo poo could've been FWD: FWD: RE: RE: that anyone with a functional legal degree in the administration immediately knocked down.

They couldn't make any of that bullshit stick (somehow), so they looked to get people to falsely confess to election rigging, to then use those confessions as justification to execute those playbooks as shown on powerpoint slides like those. When none of that worked, the happy accident (maybe more) of the insurrectionists came in, plus strategic use of sitting on their hands at the military level, led to now.

And so, now they're doing their best to replace the low-level legal/election people with toadies so that 2024 can be different, Donnie or not. :toot:

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
So was Roe v Wade wiped away with the stroke of a pen or is it “complicated”?

Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

davecrazy posted:

So was Roe v Wade wiped away with the stroke of a pen or is it “complicated”?

Not yet, that happens later when they release the decision about Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

This is a technical weasel opinion that starts the process of the regular court system striking down TX's law because it's dumb as poo poo legally. By the time that has happened the decision in Dobbs will be out and TX can just ban abortion directly.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Notahippie posted:

Not yet, that happens later when they release the decision about Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

This is a technical weasel opinion that starts the process of the regular court system striking down TX's law because it's dumb as poo poo legally. By the time that has happened the decision in Dobbs will be out and TX can just ban abortion directly.

That and the Supreme Court gave a "hey, just rewrite SB8 so it doesn't call out the licensing officials" roadmap to the Texas legislature so they can keep SB8 active.

An accelerationist take: California/New York should just do SB8 for guns and get that eventually overturned to prove how calvinball all of this bullshit truly is. BOUNTIES FOR EVERYBODY

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Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009
Turns out this is actually true,



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59592355 "Singapore: Man feared for life during otter attack"

As its Singapore they probably fined him for bleeding in public.

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