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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Your average American would probably demand that we bring down the temple, but America's ruling class is an internationally connected bourgeois. They will be willing to accept a reduced role on the world stage if it means keeping the capital flows going, even if the public craves blood. i'll bet on nuclear hellfire mostly because i would prefer death to the continuance of this cycle. which i guess between the two of us makes me the optimist lmao
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Dec 10, 2021 17:29
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In the case of the US, they would be the target of both the Chinese and the Russians…it wouldn’t end well.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:31
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AnimeIsTrash posted:This is one of the genuine fears I have about this country being a declining empire. We are deranged enough to take everyone else down with us. yep i fear this too
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Dec 10, 2021 17:33
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Serf posted:i wouldn't underestimate the deep, psychotic superiority complex that grips the american political elite. being a dying empire with weapons of mass destruction will lead to millions, if not billions of lmaos genericnick posted:If you press the big red button you won't have to admit anything anymore. why would you obliterate your own dragons hoard of wealth in nuclear fire. why. we are supposed to me materialists here goddammit stop being so neurotic
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Dec 10, 2021 17:34
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Serf posted:i'll bet on nuclear hellfire mostly because i would prefer death to the continuance of this cycle. which i guess between the two of us makes me the optimist lmao if someone is giving you odds, always bet against global annihilation, there's no downside.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:37
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Lady Militant posted:why would you obliterate your own dragons hoard of wealth in nuclear fire. why. we are supposed to me materialists here goddammit stop being so neurotic They are members of our government right now saying that nuclear first strike should be an option in case ukraine or taiwan get invaded.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:40
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Doc Hawkins posted:if someone is giving you odds, always bet against global annihilation, there's no downside. no Cao Ni Ma posted:They are members of our government right now saying that nuclear first strike should be an option in case ukraine or taiwan get invaded. remember when jeremy corbyn got obliterated by a crowd of fat, red-faced drooling morons for saying he would not fire the nukes? the people crave death
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Dec 10, 2021 17:41
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Cao Ni Ma posted:They are members of our government right now saying that nuclear first strike should be an option in case ukraine or taiwan get invaded. ah, members of government
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Dec 10, 2021 17:42
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Grapplejack posted:clearly you put your soldiers into rockets and then launch them across the channel and create a brand new sci-fi d-day They should use the Chronosphere imo
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Dec 10, 2021 17:45
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gradenko_2000 posted:speaking of reddit-tier poo poo im having a lot of trouble reading this as an antichina burn given that as far as i can tell the chinese educational system is way more critical of bad stuff in their past then any imperial power except maybe germany like what would the equivalent united states bad thing be to tianemen square the main comparison i can think of is the rodney king riots and we sure as poo poo dont teach that in school
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Dec 10, 2021 17:45
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thinking about how trumps unique crime during the george floyd protests that good republicans would never have done was think about deploying the national guard as told by people completely oblivious to the fact that george h w bush actually did deploy the national guard in response to the rodney king riots i mean poo poo just the fact that we call them the rodney king riots at all is a pretty big loving clue we learned absolutely nothing from that experience
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Dec 10, 2021 17:52
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American history education is always framed in terms of its utility to civic nationalism. Whatever bad stuff gets covered about America's past is part of a growth narrative where America becomes the greatest good country that ever existed in the world.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:56
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Your average American would probably demand that we bring down the temple, but America's ruling class is an internationally connected bourgeois. They will be willing to accept a reduced role on the world stage if it means keeping the capital flows going, even if the public craves blood. the international bourgeoisie is a stupid, fractured, inbred clique of pedophiles whose mystery cults worship the billions of death due to climate change yet to come Doc Hawkins posted:if someone is giving you odds, always bet against global annihilation, there's no downside. the entire american economy post-ww2 is increasingly predicated on an inability to stand down from war footing and face the depression that would result. the us has never not chosen war just like it has never not chosen climate destroying extraction. it strikes me as anti-historical idealism/cope to argue that ww3 isn’t the current trajectory of this timeline
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Dec 10, 2021 18:00
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lol at selling a mobage. Also lol at a lot of this.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:02
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Yes then you learn slavery is still legal per the god drat constitution.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:03
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Cao Ni Ma posted:They are members of our government right now saying that nuclear first strike should be an option in case ukraine or taiwan get invaded. and i do not believe them in the slightest! if you put them in front of the button and said do it bitch all they would be able to think about is how pressing it means every single comfort they have enjoyed their entire lives is going away.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:06
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Cao Ni Ma posted:They are members of our government right now saying that nuclear first strike should be an option in case ukraine or taiwan get invaded. Maybe we can just have a little limited nuclear war and not kill everyone on the planet nuclear war
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Dec 10, 2021 18:06
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Nobodies firing nukes you dipshits, jesus.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:07
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AnimeIsTrash posted:This is one of the genuine fears I have about this country being a declining empire. We are deranged enough to take everyone else down with us. yeah my dad's reaction to being exposed to (but not in the end getting) covid and having to quarantine last year was telling me he wanted to nuke china
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Dec 10, 2021 18:10
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Southpaugh posted:Nobodies firing nukes you dipshits, jesus. this americans are the worlds biggest blowhards. oh yah dude you totally woulda beat that guy if your kids weren't here mhmmm. yeah.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:15
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Southpaugh posted:Nobodies firing nukes you dipshits, jesus. former us president donald j. trump famously inquired about the idea of dropping nukes, and dropped the largest non-nuclear weapon ever made in afghanistan “for the lols.” the very serious generals almost convince truman to drop nukes during the korean war. if you don’t think the us losing a “great power” battle, as it almost certainly would to china, couldn’t provoke a nuclear response, then perhaps it is you who should find jesus
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Dec 10, 2021 18:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNFokmDKrE
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Dec 10, 2021 18:16
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The increduelity to nuclear war is pretty funny since don't we have plenty of stories of monarchs burning their cities and salting their lands so dirty invaders get nothing?
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Dec 10, 2021 18:17
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i mean i think it's highly unlikely, but even the relatively low probability of it happening is still p terrifying like so many generals wanted to let nukes fly in korea or vietnam or during the cuban missile crisis &c — it's not out of the realm of possibility
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Dec 10, 2021 18:20
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Femur posted:The increduelity to nuclear war is pretty funny since don't we have plenty of stories of monarchs burning their cities and salting their lands so dirty invaders get nothing? losing a fleet in the pacific is not the same as an invasion of the united states by the peoples liberation army dumbass
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Dec 10, 2021 18:23
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Dec 10, 2021 18:25
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Paladinus posted:
Oh thank god, at least it will put an end to this tedious argument.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:27
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joe biden attempts to press the big red button but his finger is dislocated and his hand falls off before he can apply enough pressure
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Dec 10, 2021 18:27
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Lady Militant posted:losing a fleet in the pacific is not the same as an invasion of the united states by the peoples liberation army dumbass That depends on if they think the world is theirs or not doesn't it.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:29
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i'm going to nuke america
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Dec 10, 2021 18:29
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Lady Militant posted:losing a fleet in the pacific is not the same as an invasion of the united states by the peoples liberation army dumbass hate crimes against asians are way up across the US over the flimsiest anti-Chinese propaganda, what kind of outcome do you think “losing a fleet” would engender?
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Dec 10, 2021 18:30
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Some Guy TT posted:thinking about how trumps unique crime during the george floyd protests that good republicans would never have done was think about deploying the national guard as told by people completely oblivious to the fact that george h w bush actually did deploy the national guard in response to the rodney king riots Your point overall is right, but Trump was criticized for preparing active duty military to deploy. Which is something that was done in 1992 as well. The real innovation was Bill Barr flying in federal prison guards to DC to put down protests
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Dec 10, 2021 18:37
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1469362030813585408?s=20
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Dec 10, 2021 18:43
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Lady Militant posted:why would you obliterate your own dragons hoard of wealth in nuclear fire. why. we are supposed to me materialists here goddammit stop being so neurotic The European empires did exactly that in WW1 though. Even if less spectacular.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:43
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Centrist Committee posted:hate crimes against asians are way up across the US over the flimsiest anti-Chinese propaganda, what kind of outcome do you think “losing a fleet” would engender? hate crimes against asians don't affect profit margins, nuclear strikes do.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:44
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genericnick posted:The European empires did exactly that in WW1 though. Even if less spectacular. https://udba.org/marx.mp4
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Dec 10, 2021 18:47
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Lady Militant posted:hate crimes against asians don't affect profit margins, nuclear strikes do. the belt and road initiative providing resource-rich nations an alternative to US extraction at gunpoint is the kind of apocalyptic limit on capitalist expansion that historically led to the first two world wars
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Dec 10, 2021 18:50
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do any schools not do defense research
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Dec 10, 2021 18:52
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Centrist Committee posted:the entire american economy post-ww2 is increasingly predicated on an inability to stand down from war footing and face the depression that would result. the us has never not chosen war just like it has never not chosen climate destroying extraction. it strikes me as anti-historical idealism/cope to argue that ww3 isn’t the current trajectory of this timeline yeah, i know, but when that happens, you won't be able to collect any winnings from betting on it, and you won't care if you lost anything from betting against it: there's no downside.
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Dec 10, 2021 18:55
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A United States in decline would still have a sphere of influence to dominate, and that all goes away if you have a big sad and push the button. what would be the diminished USA sphere of influence? south america?
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