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cinci zoo sniper posted:eu offered me 320/day brutto for a non-senior data engineer position at an unnamed structural unit. with latvian government that would’ve been 53-64/day lol so like 5.5x local govt, nice 80 - 120k takehome pay is p dece, about the same as the tier 3 companies are paying here in NL
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:lol so like 5.5x local govt, nice why are tiers ascending in prestige
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cinci zoo sniper posted:why are tiers ascending in prestige lol good point more money == bigger number?
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supposed to have an interview tomorrow but the company froze hiring because of a budget thing lol. (the company is huge so, i guess not terrible). get to proceed with a different position with more coding instead at the same level, so, seems fine more time to grind leetcode!
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on my part, ive got 3 executive reviews in the next 5 business days, so im starting to cancel the small queue of technicals i have at hand, as it’s increasingly improbable that any of them would be necessary, or an improvement over what I’m very likely to get
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cinci zoo sniper posted:on my part, ive got 3 executive reviews in the next 5 business days, so im starting to cancel the small queue of technicals i have at hand, as it’s increasingly improbable that any of them would be necessary, or an improvement over what I’m very likely to get very nice
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:supposed to have an interview tomorrow but the company froze hiring because of a budget thing lol. (the company is huge so, i guess not terrible). get to proceed with a different position with more coding instead at the same level, so, seems fine I've never heard of them unfreezing this without starting from scratch on hiring process. Let us know if you find an exception to that rule but its usually a hard rule.
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CarForumPoster posted:I've never heard of them unfreezing this without starting from scratch on hiring process. Let us know if you find an exception to that rule but its usually a hard rule. im the exeception i think, my second interview this week is with a subsidiary of an american public company, which run out of budget to hire me and put me on a waitlist while they claw out some budget, which they actually did
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CarForumPoster posted:I've never heard of them unfreezing this without starting from scratch on hiring process. Let us know if you find an exception to that rule but its usually a hard rule.
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CarForumPoster posted:I've never heard of them unfreezing this without starting from scratch on hiring process. Let us know if you find an exception to that rule but its usually a hard rule. depends on the level it's frozen at and how frozen. if hiring is "frozen" in the sense that the team (or parent team, or org) has lost open headcount, it's still oftentimes possible to horse-trade other teams' (or orgs', or whatever) headcount. for example, my security org might be able to get headcount from a team in a different org if we promised to make sure whatever multi-quarter effort they've been trying to get us to prioritize was indeed prioritized (ostensibly "using" their headcount to fund a project they want but we don't have the person-power to do).
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"frozen hiring" in december can also be as simple as "one weird trick" to push stuff into next year. depending on corporate year of course.
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hobbesmaster posted:"frozen hiring" in december can also be as simple as "one weird trick" to push stuff into next year. depending on corporate year of course. why would this matter, that's not how the fiscal year works i aint complaining though, i got a free month of unemployment without job searching from this sorta thing
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because people also stop looking for jobs during the holidays. it's also lovely to reach out to someone and then they get back to you after everyone is already on vacation, you lose momentum and possibly the lead. if you aren't in a position to really sell the company, it's probably best to just wait until you are.
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:yeah i would be surprised too. i applied for position A, TA person says "hey position A has someone at the offer stage but we like you, can talk, and also what about position B?" and now position A is canned (RIP to the guy with an offer i guess) update on position B: hiring manager is based +9h from me, so i can interview at 7pm in the evening. lomarf. i'll do it as a one off sure but if this is a regular requirement for this job, no fuckin thanks! in other "who could have possibly predicted this" news, scheduling interviews between now and mid january now appears completely impossible, guess i just gotta keep on grinding leetcode and reading the system design book. maybe i can turn the leetcode grinding into some remote FAANG interviews, who knows also, its very satisfying when linkedin recruiters send positions with garbage salary and you get to tell em "lol gently caress off i get >2x that already!!! good luck finding a suitable candidate  "
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:in other "who could have possibly predicted this" news, scheduling interviews between now and mid january now appears completely impossible, yeah, im in a great mood since the final interview for a job id much prefer to get didn’t happen today due to a “calendaring error”. granted, there’s still some time, but i doubt that the executive i was supposed to meet has a lot of 2 hour interview slots left between now and whenever they’re off for holidays
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i mean in your favour a lot of execs are loving lunatics and dont take any holiday and/or work insane hours the waiting must suck though, especially if its a 1m wait over xmas the good thing about a few the companies i've been going for is that they take a whole company-wide week off at xmas, which is nice for future prospects (but not current interviews, but thats okay)
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i doubt it’s one month, or at least hope it isn’t. we’ll see, hopefully the chain of administrative assistants involved gets back to me tomorrow
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Campus closes for the week between Christmas and New Year's, so my company moved all the "floating" holidays to fill that week. Except they always leave New Year's Eve open, for some reason, and tell us we have to use our own vacation time on that day. Last year, I noticed one of my coworkers never changed that day from "Regular" to "Vacation" and felt like a comrade when I didn't snitch. Also, every year they wait until like the 18th to announce that the university president and the California State University governor have, surprise!, granted us Christmas Eve off, but THIS DOES NOT SET A PRECEDENT. Never mind that it occurs every year! Enjoy your extra day off that you couldn't have planned your vacation time around unless you were already ready to take a vacation day on that day! Anyway, totally not using my own vacation time this year and seeing if anybody notices.
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based on my time working in tech for CA elhi, nobody will notice or care. comrades abound! just had my first non-recruiter/HR interview this round and I liked how it went. for technical assessments, how do people feel about doing hackerrank vs a meeting via google meet w/ someone? i'm leaning towards the latter because you can establish rapport, get more info about what working there is like, explain more thought process, etc. I don't know how hackerrank works for interviewing tho.
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in person is 100% better for the candidate, because you can explain yourself and also check if your future colleagues are decent. on hackerrank you can just get some trivia question buried on page 965 of python language reference and fail an arbitrary performance constraint
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i have had two second interviews, two separate companies first one was Dec 2 and the other Dec 9 and still no reply had an offer from a third one, one interview and three days later but it was really low for all of the poo poo they were wanting me to do, I asked for more and they never replied really am just headtired from feeling so good about how things went to being straight up ghosted. both seconds were technical interviews and i felt great after and liked the team I was working with. no bad answers or weird arguments about how long it takes to drive somewhere aghhhhh
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have also been on the other side of this where applicants have reached out via email or call on like day two and it's like yo chill we haven't even interviewed everyone yet it would just be nice to kick up the job search engines again and not waste my time or people's time is all
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turn around for technicals has been 1-2 days for me recently. so definitely follow up and leverage the lowball offer to speed them up.
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my partner is interviewing for a (non-computer toucher) job. so far there have been 3 interviews over two rounds. now this place is trying to schedule 6 separate interviews for round 3 interviewing is still garbage
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I've heard of places doing like 6 or 7 rounds and it's like who actually makes it through that
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qirex posted:I've heard of places doing like 6 or 7 rounds and it's like who actually makes it through that ive gone through enough of those that they seem normal at this point, that’s just one or two rounds more than the shortest thing out of which ive received an offer. like, next week i have round 7 interviews with 2 companies, and like 13 people 2 hour crossfire round at the third
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going to just start applying as a professional interviewee specialising in stress testing hr departments
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cinci zoo sniper posted:going to just start applying as a professional interviewee specialising in stress testing hr departments some union organizers basically do just this
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qirex posted:I've heard of places doing like 6 or 7 rounds and it's like who actually makes it through that ~10 years ago a faang gave me an all day that had 6 diff people IIRC and that was after two phone screens
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CarForumPoster posted:~10 years ago a faang gave me an all day that had 6 diff people IIRC and that was after two phone screens oh yeah way back in the day I interviewed at yahoo and I talked to almost 30 people over ~6 hours I think it was a bit of a blur but it wasn't multiple rounds which involve scheduling and time between
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CarForumPoster posted:~10 years ago a faang gave me an all day that had 6 diff people IIRC and that was after two phone screens yeah that's pretty standard still phone screen with a recruiter to check if you have a pulse technical phone screen to check if you can fizzbuzz (or throw you out for not knowing the trick to some jerk's favorite toy problem) "on-site" interview with more whiteboarding bullshit
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CarForumPoster posted:~10 years ago a faang gave me an all day that had 6 diff people IIRC and that was after two phone screens i had a parisian startup fly me there in similar circumstances in 2018, during the peak of protests. all expenses paid, full day with senior management and executives. then they offered me 48k, less than what i made at my actually latvian job at the time
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i brought them donuts no one ate any donuts
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i had a parisian startup fly me there in similar circumstances in 2018, during the peak of protests. all expenses paid, full day with senior management and executives. then they offered me 48k, less than what i made at my actually latvian job at the time 48k in Paris? lomarf what a joke
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:48k in Paris? lomarf what a joke remote first but with expectation to move to paris within a year
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french positions have consistently offered me the worst salaries
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the worst salaries but the best kisses!
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in their defence, i still remember the cabbage-sized brioche bun with dark chocolate which i had for breakfast that day. le ouis do know their poo poo in the kitchen, extremely so
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